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Thread: Another mileage thread

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    Another mileage thread

    Back during the winter I was getting about 20 MPG in mostly city driving and about 22 MPG in mostly highway driving. I'm now lucky to get 20 on the highway, and I just finished a tank at about 16 MPG mostly city. Driving pretty conservatively, flat southeast Texas roads.
    Two possibilities:
    1. Hotter weather equals less dense air, so poorer performance, including mileage. Been really hot down here.
    2. During the winter, I wasn't driving with the AC on all the time, like I am now. AC use reduces both power and mileage.

    Comments? A lot of you know a lot more about this than I do.
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    22 mpg (mostly highway) but same nasty hot temps with AC on. I don't count on that when the 4.10 is installed. I drive pretty conservatively as a rule. O/D off around town but rarely over 80 on the freeway.

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    WITH 4.10S ,17 TOWN, 21HWY. NOT LATE OFTEN .

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    20 Hwy/ 17 Leadfootin'

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    Averaged 24 MPG on a recent trip to Collinsville, IL. Kept tack at 2200 RMP about 75 MPH.
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    I beat on my car so bad Im lucky to ever see 15mpg. Seriously.

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    i am very disappointed after stage 1 mods concerning MPG. 11 mpg city.. maybe 3 times WOT. highway i dont know.

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    All stock- 19 mpg around town w/heavy foot
    Highway= ? Haven't made any trips yet.

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    12 - 15 around town, depending on who ELSE is around. Heh. Highway, I don't have much on that yet. Driving across America and back August-September, so I'll know better then.

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    Last road trip from Chicago to Indy;

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    Go figure...

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    All Interesting, But...

    Does anyone have any information about my questions?
    1. Is the hot air causing lower mileage than cold air?
    2. Is using the AC constantly causing significant reduction in mileage?

    Thanks
    2003 MM 300A
    Born June 18, 2002
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    I would say, Yes. A/C is know to affect economy. Heat reduced HP. Heat also increases tire pressure, and can affect milage.
    I don't know if these would add up to the ~3 or 4 mpg you're seeing, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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    I've seen the opposite occur (winter driving resulting in lower mileage) but with increased A/C use, yes it will consume a bit more. That much more? Sounds fishy. Also, some gas companies reformulate their fuels for winter use, but again that usually contributes to the opposite: increased consumption during the winter. The reasoning for the cold weather consumption: more oxygen per quantity of air at colder temperatures, requiring a richer mixture.

    Now here's something to consider:
    I just recently swapped out all 8 spark plugs on my WS6, went with NGK coppers instead of the AC Delco platinums, regapped to my own specs...
    Followed by a fuel filter change, then went to get my alignment checked: the toe was slightly off, although caster and camber were still pretty close to what I spec'ed close to 3 years ago. So I just got the toe corrected back to my preferred '0.00' .

    My point: my first tankful produced an improvement of about 25% mileage-wise, and what seems to be a much improved low end response (probably more a function of my custom gapping than the alignment). But the 25% increase?

    So maybe it's worthwhile after all to get one's alignment checked out now and again, perhaps more important on heavier vehicles with stickier tires. Perhaps a misalignment in toe specs can bring on a large impact in mileage.

    And while we're talking spark plugs... might be a good idea to check for fouling. In hotter climates, the dreaded 'pcm-reflash' issue might not be as noticeable (just a wild guess here) but the long-term fouling might sneak up on you anyway.

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