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    Fishin'?

    What was/is your favorite car to "fishtail" in?


    Some of you may enjoy kicking the tail out while making a turn or if your car has enough oomph, do it from a standing start. Granted, it's not for everybody and hopefully you consider the risks if you do.

    Some vehicles are easy to handle doing this and others will have you saying "Never again". I think wheelbase length plays a big factor, but when I compare the experiences with my own vehicles, there is less than 10 inches between the worst to control and the one I felt was the easiest to control.

    The Marauder is easy enough to control when "fishtailing". I could get the tail to kick out when making a turn or U-turn, punch the throttle and correct/over-correct with the steering a couple of times before the stock power level is overtaken and it can't make another swing. This is controlled and one way I enjoy playing around with the Marauder when the risk to do so is low. Marauders have a wheelbase of 114.7 inches, front track width of 63.7 inches and rear track width is 66.2 inches.

    I have a '70 Torino Cobra w/429 CJ that currently is waiting on me to get her running again. In times past when I would "fishtail" with it, it was very easy to control. You could get it to massively kick the tail out and almost lose it on the first swing or start with a small swing and allow it to continue with each swing getting progressively wider until you had to stop or lose control. I recall once getting to swing 9 times (a swing to one side being "1") on a damp road. With the Torino, if you let the steering wheel slide through your fingers while doing this, it would immediately correct the front wheels and stop swinging the tail. Again, very easy to control and somewhat confidence inspiring. The Torino's wheelbase is 117 inches, front track width is 60.5 inches and rear track width is 60 inches.

    My '14 GT500 is another animal entirely. If you are a little over-exuberant, it will break the tail lose easily (super easy when Traction-control disabled) and kick the tail out almost before you comprehend what's happening. And unlike the Marauder or Torino, you get off the gas, steer the front wheels to control it but it continues swinging the tail after what would have corrected the other cars. Not reassuring, makes you think twice about doing it for fun (unless you have plenty of room to allow for it). This car's wheelbase is 108 inches, front track is 61.9 inches and rear track is 62.5 inches.

    Does anyone have a favorite vehicle they like the way it handles when doing this, "formula" or rule of thumb for sizing up how well a car may be controlled if you decide to have fun doing this?

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    FIAT 131. Dolphin tales on a residential street.
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    My 90's T Birds. 113" wheelbase. And my Excursion when it snows. 137.1" wheelbase.
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    Little fun on track. Wish the dude was closer. Was trying to get it to start at 7mins 32 seconds to see me drifting out of the corner. I do it once more on the next lap too.

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    My three favorite cars to do this in. 1. 2003 Marauder 2. 1995 Lexus sc400 3. 1995 240sx. The Lexus had a 106" wheelbase with rear track at 60". The 240's wheelbase was just under a hundred inches. My 240 weighed nothing and was lowered. The Lexus weighed 450 lbs less that my MM and had a 4.0 V8. I have not seen quality in any car I've owned yet match that old Lexus. Marauders, due to their size, still impress me visually when swinging sideways.

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    marauder+4.10s+3500 stall= holy sideways batmobile


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    a empty UPS p1000 package truck, 180" wb prolly 26'long on fresh snow in their parking lot. it all happens sort of in slow motion being so long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubberCtyRauder View Post
    a empty UPS p1000 package truck, 180" wb prolly 26'long on fresh snow in their parking lot. it all happens sort of in slow motion being so long.
    Now that would be fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambitious1 View Post
    Now that would be fun to watch.
    the things one does when they are like 22 years old
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    In HS I saw an XKE do a 180* on a divided residential street with out touching the curb.
    None of it was planned.

    I knew the driver and I will never forget her.
    1/4 Mile Time 11.542 @ 121.19 MPH
    195,000 Miles & 275+ Runs Down the 1,320’
    541.57 RWHP & 476.64 RWTQ on DynoJet
    Tuned by Aric at Injected Engineering
    Vortech Super Charger V-2 “T” Trim, 19 PSI
    8 Rib Belt, Innovators West 10% Overdrive Dampner
    Air to Air Intercooler, Mini-race Bypass
    Ford Cobra Remanufactured Long Block
    Snow Performance Water-Methanol Injection
    Kooks Headers & X Pipe
    GT MAF, 60lb injectors, Dash 8, Aero Rails, Twin Ford GT Pumps,
    Kinsler Fuel Filter, Kenne Bell Boost-A-Pump
    Monroe Sensatrac, Metco Control Arms, Addco Rear Sway Bar
    31 Ford Spline Axles & Detroit Truetrac, 4:10 Ford Racing Gears
    Dynotech MMC Driveshaft
    A-1 Performance Trans, Forced Tailshaft Lube, Carbon Clutches
    3,500 RPM Stall Precision Industries Torque Converter
    B&M Deep Finned Trans Pan
    AeroForce Scan Gauges , Auto Meter Oil, Fuel & Boost Gauges
    Kenny Brown Dead Pedal, 35% Tint, Silver Star Head Lights
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