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    Seeking suspension advice

    With my new motor, blower, exhaust,...., what suspension changes should I make to help this amateur drive take advantage of the added power. Separate from learning to drive better, what do you guys recommend, please?

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    a. I have a Metal Matrix drive shaft, but all stock suspension components. No aftermarket anything for control arms, sway bar, etc...
    b. Nitto 255/55ZR18 109W rear tires. They do not make the same size in their Summer and ulra performance tires (damn).

    Q1. Keep the rear air shocks or change to something else?

    Q2. What front and rear-end ride and suspension components should I add (sway bar bushings, end links, steering rack bellows, springs and shocks)?

    Q3. What else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowndex View Post
    With my new motor, blower, exhaust,...., what suspension changes should I make to help this amateur drive take advantage of the added power. Separate from learning to drive better, what do you guys recommend, please?

    FYI:
    a. I have a Metal Matrix drive shaft, but all stock suspension components. No aftermarket anything for control arms, anti-sway, etc...
    b. Nitto 255/55ZR18 109W rear tires. They do not make the same size in their Summer and ulra performance tires (damn).

    Q1. Keep the rear air shocks or change to something else?

    Keep the air ride.

    Q2. What front and rear-end ride and suspension components should I add (sway bar bushings, end links, steering rack bellows, springs and shocks)?

    Metco upper and lower rear control arms, Addco front and rear sway bars, Energy Suspension greaseable sway bar bushings.


    Q3. What else?

    TCE front brake upgrade - if your going to go faster you'll need to stop quicker.
    New torque convertor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastblackmerc View Post
    See my replies.
    I can always count on your help. Thank you, sir.

    - Sticking with air bags.

    - I already have the torque converter (forgot to mention).

    - I will order the rest today and send to BRG Racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastblackmerc View Post
    See my replies.
    For the Addco sway bar kits, front is 1.25" and read 1.0" (am I correct)?
    http://www.summitracing.com/search/y...er/brand/addco

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    For the Addco sway bar kits, front is 1.25" and read 1.0" (am I correct)?
    You are correct.
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    Addco bars, KYB shocks & struts, and you can get control arms from Heinous, Metco, or Sparta Performance.

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    Addco makes hollow sway bars for our cars also. They are larger diameter, although supposed to be the same rate. Also 5 lbs each lighter, not to mention will lighten your wallet a little more.
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    Wilwood Aero6 F, NMDP R brakes, Penske 7500DA shocks, Hypercoil 600lbs F and Grand Marquis R air springs, Addco tubular sway bars, Metco control & Watts, 31 sp axles, Stainless Works cat-back exhaust, Lidio tune, American Racing AR883 9.3" 50mm F 10" 59mm R 20" wheels, Pirelli P-Zero 265/35-20, 275/40-20 tires

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    Here are some part numbers:

    Sway Bars – Addco
    Front – 2196 (1.25” diameter) - Solid
    Rear – 650 (1” diameter) – Solid
    Front – 2272 – Hollow
    Rear – 2271 - Hollow

    I'd recommend the solid bars.

    Greaseable Sway Bar Bushings - Energy Suspensions

    Front – 9.5165 or 9.5172
    Rear – 9.5161 (will need modifications to work)
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    Q1: You don't have air shocks, you have air springs.

    Q2: End links and rack bellows will add nothing to ride quality or handling. Install the Addco sway bars and rear control arms from Sparta (supporting vendor) for the biggest bang-for-the-buck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RF Overlord View Post
    Q2: End links and rack bellows will add nothing to ride quality or handling. Install the Addco sway bars and rear control arms from Sparta (supporting vendor) for the biggest bang-for-the-buck.
    Given that end links connect the sway bar to the spindle or chassis, they most certainly have an effect on handling. They wear out just like any other suspension part, and are not expensive.

    Bellows age also. Given the tie rods must be disassembled to replace them it makes sense to replace these at the same time. Again, they aren't expensive.

    Maintenance is something 10 year old cars often need.
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    Wilwood Aero6 F, NMDP R brakes, Penske 7500DA shocks, Hypercoil 600lbs F and Grand Marquis R air springs, Addco tubular sway bars, Metco control & Watts, 31 sp axles, Stainless Works cat-back exhaust, Lidio tune, American Racing AR883 9.3" 50mm F 10" 59mm R 20" wheels, Pirelli P-Zero 265/35-20, 275/40-20 tires

    Coming soon: Livernois 5.0L stroker, ADTR/Vortech V2 intercooled SC, Silverfox trans and Circle D converter

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastblackmerc View Post
    Here are some part numbers:

    Sway Bars – Addco
    Front – 2196 (1.25” diameter) - Solid
    Rear – 650 (1” diameter) – Solid
    Front – 2272 – Hollow
    Rear – 2271 - Hollow

    I'd recommend the solid bars.

    Greaseable Sway Bar Bushings - Energy Suspensions

    Front – 9.5165 or 9.5172
    Rear – 9.5161 (will need modifications to work)
    Idiot proof - just what I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifespeed View Post
    Given that end links connect the sway bar to the spindle or chassis, they most certainly have an effect on handling. They wear out just like any other suspension part, and are not expensive.

    Bellows age also. Given the tie rods must be disassembled to replace them it makes sense to replace these at the same time. Again, they aren't expensive.

    Maintenance is something 10 year old cars often need.
    I forgot about the tie rods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifespeed View Post
    Given that end links connect the sway bar to the spindle or chassis, they most certainly have an effect on handling. They wear out just like any other suspension part, and are not expensive.

    Bellows age also. Given the tie rods must be disassembled to replace them it makes sense to replace these at the same time. Again, they aren't expensive.

    Maintenance is something 10 year old cars often need.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lowndex View Post
    I forgot about the tie rods.
    Check them. If they aren't damaged or there is no wear, no need to replace.
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    is to kill them, keep on killing them, until you kill the last one, then you kill his pet goat."

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    "I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes, if you **** with me, I'll kill you all"
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastblackmerc View Post
    Check them. If they aren't damaged or there is no wear, no need to replace.
    How could you have no wear on a 100K mile tie rod
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    2004 Silver Birch Marauder 130K miles
    Wilwood Aero6 F, NMDP R brakes, Penske 7500DA shocks, Hypercoil 600lbs F and Grand Marquis R air springs, Addco tubular sway bars, Metco control & Watts, 31 sp axles, Stainless Works cat-back exhaust, Lidio tune, American Racing AR883 9.3" 50mm F 10" 59mm R 20" wheels, Pirelli P-Zero 265/35-20, 275/40-20 tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifespeed View Post
    How could you have no wear on a 100K mile tie rod
    Your saying it's not possible?
    “When you can’t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.”
    Ronald Regan

    "The only way to deal with the Islamic State - these blood thirsty, blood-drunken, terrorists -
    is to kill them, keep on killing them, until you kill the last one, then you kill his pet goat."

    Lt. Colonel Ralph Peters

    “Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.”
    "I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes, if you **** with me, I'll kill you all"
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