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Thread: Going Turbo LS or Turbo 4v stock motor.....info inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    Looks amazing without the side trim.
    Good eye. Looks killer. Hate to admit I missed that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 345HP87SSAC View Post
    Keep it up and do the LS swap. I'd love to meet up some time. Surprised you have not sold the stock 4V yet.
    I have had a few people express interest and want to put a deposit down on it, but refused. I figure at this point, it's best if I get the motor out and crated up, then pursue selling it at that time, as it will literally be ready to go. I had originally advertised it now, with the thought process being that someone could hear it run and drive it before I pulled it, however it seems as if most buyers want to get ahold of it immediately vs. waiting. Motor seems pretty solid, carries good oil PSI and sounds great.

    Indeed, as it's been said, in all honesty I hate removing the Ford powertrain.....as it truly degrade the car overall as far as potential future buyers, and de values a very rare and nice car. But, that's just a side effect of customization. If only the Ford stuff wasn't so expensive to make HP, and I wasn't so well versed with this swap and have the proper tuning tools/know how in the matter, the outcome would most certainly be different here.

    Still looking forward to keeping this pretty lady going though. The Marauder is a very nice car and was well done by Ford. Looks sporty and turns heads, something my plain white Vic never did until the turbo spooled!

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    I have a turbo in a bone stock marauder motor. 446hp 493tq at the wheels and I can turn it up more but, it's a waiting game on when it goes boom. But I do have a 5.0 stroker short block to put in but I want to see how long the stock motor holds.

    Injoy the marauder with the stock motor for awhile. Or turbo the stock motor and use the 450rwhp for however long it holds.

    Just my 2cents
    Nitrous, a TURBO, 4.10's, are like a hot blonde with a STD, you really want to hit it but you are just afraid of the consequences.


    Best e/t 12.7 @108mph with a 1.9 60' on eagle f1.
    best on e/t streets 12.40 @108 with a 1.6 60'<---- finally NOT faster then justbob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOWBUCKMM View Post
    I have a turbo in a bone stock marauder motor. 446hp 493tq at the wheels and I can turn it up more but, it's a waiting game on when it goes boom. But I do have a 5.0 stroker short block to put in but I want to see how long the stock motor holds.

    Injoy the marauder with the stock motor for awhile. Or turbo the stock motor and use the 450rwhp for however long it holds.

    Just my 2cents

    I feel ya!

    Being quite honest though.....there really is nothing to enjoy about the stock setup.....coming from the Vic...lol. Going from an 11 sec car to a 15 sec car is a huge jump.

    The issue I have with going turbo on the stock motor, is even at 450 rwhp I won't be satisfied, not coming from my previous setup. Going that route, I would basically fab a turbo kit and drop the $$ into the stock setup that I would end up losing, not to mention most likely destroying the stock motor which would net me around $1500 as it sits now, a sizable credit going towards (and in all honesty paying for nearly 1/2 of the LS swap) the LS swap.

    My current game plan is to finish procuring the necessary parts for my LS swap while I drive the Marauder for a bit. I have the motor/trans already, and really all that's left are some smalls.

    Current ETA before she undergoes surgery is about 2 months give/take.

    This was on 10 psi, pump gas, and is pretty much an unlimited rolling burnout until I lift, from a 30ish MPH roll. I would estimate based on my trap speed of 117 on 10 psi, in the 4200 lb Vic, that would be north of 550 RWHP give or take:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ciDa97gFfc

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    You should at minimum record each cylinders compression to help the sale if taken out.


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    the good news is the original motor has no "matching numbers" value to it so if you do sell it someone can buy a replacement engine. Maybe not easily but its a lot more doable than finding the original 440 for a '70 Cuda.
    Steven

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOWBUCKMM View Post
    I have a turbo in a bone stock marauder motor. 446hp 493tq at the wheels and I can turn it up more but, it's a waiting game on when it goes boom. But I do have a 5.0 stroker short block to put in but I want to see how long the stock motor holds.

    Injoy the marauder with the stock motor for awhile. Or turbo the stock motor and use the 450rwhp for however long it holds.

    Just my 2cents
    never really understood why people stroke boosted cars.. it is literally the opposite of what you are trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badass_forever View Post
    never really understood why people stroke boosted cars.. it is literally the opposite of what you are trying to do.
    Cause it my car my money. And I can do what I want. Plus the forged stroker crank was cheaper then a cobra forged one.
    Nitrous, a TURBO, 4.10's, are like a hot blonde with a STD, you really want to hit it but you are just afraid of the consequences.


    Best e/t 12.7 @108mph with a 1.9 60' on eagle f1.
    best on e/t streets 12.40 @108 with a 1.6 60'<---- finally NOT faster then justbob.

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    What electronics do you run the car on?

    Just wondered if you're using factory GM or aftermarket and what's involved?

    Thought about doing something like this with my 68 Merc. Have been told it's an easy 500 n/a hp with some heads that run about 1200 bucks. If you're doing everything for around $3000, and north of 500hp, that's sweet!

    Chris Stewart
    03 Marauder
    Paxton 2200
    20" wheels
    637.21rwhp
    538.59rwtq

    04 DTR Son's car
    4.10, K&N CAI, Jeff tune
    Headers, underdrive pulley
    297.26 rwhp
    312rwtq

    06 F-150 Supercrew Lariat 4x4
    305/55 20's

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigM460 View Post
    What electronics do you run the car on?

    Just wondered if you're using factory GM or aftermarket and what's involved?

    Thought about doing something like this with my 68 Merc. Have been told it's an easy 500 n/a hp with some heads that run about 1200 bucks. If you're doing everything for around $3000, and north of 500hp, that's sweet!
    We use pickup truck ECU's, we normally get the motors out of trucks. there is a oper source program called HP tuners. They flash the factory ECU and give you complete control. works amazing. just did a 2012 ss camaro with a cam and longtubes, made 440whp.

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    ^ What this guy said. The stock GM ECU combined with the HP Tuners program, you can do anything you want in the ECU.

    The costs are correct in my instance. If you can wire, tune and fabricate, it's very very cheap HP. You are correct, north of 500 N/A HP is very easily obtainable with an LS. Add boost, and on pump gas 91 octane, 600-700 flywheel HP with just a good intercooler and no meth injection is extremely reliable.

    Before I went turbo on my Malibu, I put down north of 400 RWHP through a loose converter, TH400 and 12 bolt rear. This was a heads/cam 6.0L, with a carb setup:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQK9b_Nyw00

    Same car, but turbocharged here. There is nothing like that turbo sing though....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFReVd3aAdA

    Both of those combo's are nothing more than a salvage yard motor. The Heads/Cam N/A setup I shifted at 7100, no issues.

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    So what's an engine and transmission and ecu together go for? Any certain things to look for or stay away from?
    Still not sure I could actually put a chevy in my Merc, but..........

    An F150 5.0 would be nice!

    Chris Stewart
    03 Marauder
    Paxton 2200
    20" wheels
    637.21rwhp
    538.59rwtq

    04 DTR Son's car
    4.10, K&N CAI, Jeff tune
    Headers, underdrive pulley
    297.26 rwhp
    312rwtq

    06 F-150 Supercrew Lariat 4x4
    305/55 20's

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigM460 View Post
    So what's an engine and transmission and ecu together go for? Any certain things to look for or stay away from?
    Still not sure I could actually put a chevy in my Merc, but..........
    i get them for 300-500$ then flip them for $800ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badass_forever View Post
    i get them for 300-500$ then flip them for $800ish
    Really?! Wow that's a bargain.

    Chris Stewart
    03 Marauder
    Paxton 2200
    20" wheels
    637.21rwhp
    538.59rwtq

    04 DTR Son's car
    4.10, K&N CAI, Jeff tune
    Headers, underdrive pulley
    297.26 rwhp
    312rwtq

    06 F-150 Supercrew Lariat 4x4
    305/55 20's

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigM460 View Post
    Really?! Wow that's a bargain.
    yeah, there is a huge car community where i live, and most if it is young guys that know what this combo can do.

    my good buddy mike has a 88mm on a 5.3 with only an injector up grade, he just went 10.12 at 142 in a grand national. not only that, he races the thing every weekend in Detroit for money.

    to top it all off, its one of the most hacked P.O.S i've ever seen, tuned in his basement with HP tuners with a wiring harness he built, it runs amazing and is totally street able.

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