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    Help With P0133 & P0153

    I went to get the State emissions test on Monday and failed because all my systems were N/A...(that's strange). So I set the car back to stock and changed the gear ratio to 4.10 and turned off the speed limiter the drove for a couple days and the Marauder threw 2 codes (P0133 & P0153).
    Oxygen circuit slow response sensors 1 on banks 1 and 2. I cleaned the MAF, is there anything else to do? Also my scanner said they were non-MIL...what does that translate to?
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    Hey, Vince....good to meet you at Louisville!

    IL recently changed the way their emission computer interprets having the I/M monitors shut off in a tune, so that's why you didn't have an issue until this time.

    Those codes indicate either bad O2 sensors, frayed or broken wiring, or possibly an exhaust leak. How many miles on your car?
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    It was a blast, we are a crazy bunch...lol
    116k on the mileage.
    The last I checked the wiring was ok
    Just had the 3 inch Stainless Works exhaust added a couple weeks ago, I will check the connections as they are all clamp on and as I said put on right before Louisville.
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    The leak would have to be either upstream of the sensors or if downstream then it would have to be very near the sensors, so check those connections first.

    It's also reasonable to assume that the sensors are just old now and since they were turned off in your tune you didn't notice.
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    Ok, I will just replace them if after I check the exhaust and nothing changes.
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    Are these codes are thrown off the rear O2 sensors? if so you might be able to get inline eliminators?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comin' in Hot View Post
    Are these codes are thrown off the rear O2 sensors? if so you might be able to get inline eliminators?
    Sensors 1 on banks 1 and 2 so that would be the upstream
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    Do you have a tune. Once you have long tubes put on it has to have the O2 sensor setting adjusted for the longer travel or something of that nature.

    At least that's what pro racer software says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stMerc View Post
    Once you have long tubes put on it has to have the O2 sensor setting adjusted for the longer travel or something of that nature.
    Good catch, Waymon!

    BTW, you're only allowed to miss ONE Louisville. Don't miss the next one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stMerc View Post
    Do you have a tune. Once you have long tubes put on it has to have the O2 sensor setting adjusted for the longer travel or something of that nature.

    At least that's what pro racer software says.
    Tune from Mo's Speed Shop, I had to return the car to stock for Illinois emissions testing and once doe it threw the codes. I sent them an email already
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    Did I return your car to stock at some point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VMARAUDER View Post
    Sensors 1 on banks 1 and 2 so that would be the upstream
    I missed that in the first post, I should learn to read it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RF Overlord View Post
    BTW, you're only allowed to miss ONE Louisville. Don't miss the next one.
    Just wasn't meant to be this year, Bob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    Did I return your car to stock at some point?
    Hey Zack...Remember your computer was down the day I came by for you to transfer the stock tune to my device or something like that.
    You sent me the tune that you flashed my car with and STC was able to recover my stock tune from my tuner, that is what I downloaded to the car on Monday.
    I just cleaned the MAF today an drove 35 miles up and down 394 and so far no DTC's or pending DTC's
    I am going to check the exhaust for leaks anyway because I just got it on before Louisville and it's clamped and something may have vibrated loose and I think I got new sensors after you did the headers
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    Everything is normal at this point except for the items on tbe attached file.
    Catalysis Mon Incomplete
    Evaporative says Mon incomplete
    and the 3 N/A's
    which ones do I need before I retest
    Last edited by VMARAUDER; 10-26-2014 at 05:52 PM.
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    New DD 2014 F150 Lariat - EcoBoosted
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