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  1. #61
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    I understand the physics of our Marauders and I also understand the needs of the community that has gently massaged their Marauders.

    I put a set of COMMAND ROTORS on my N/A Marauder 75,000 miles ago
    and I can safely say they are gone, warped and no longer usable.
    Since they are STEEL, who can I get to cut them ? Should I even try ?
    Would any local parts store be able to cut these ?
    Should I return them to COMMAND ?

    These babies are HEAVY. The original box weighed about 75b lbs.

    What can I use to replace these with using Ceramic Pads ?

    I saw these on Ebay and I laughed but they offer a 1 year warranty...

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-REAR-4...item43d4a6d1fa

    I want to be able to do a brake replacement that will last as long as these did,
    but I don't want to pay $1000 for a brake job either...
    The COMMAND rotors were $500+ in a group buy, so long ago, by Wes Chain.

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    Pete...


    2k04 BLACK Mercury Marauder 300A #810 of 3223
    DOB 10/31/2003
    DOP 1/2/2004
    2k19 AGATE FORD Edge ST with Performance Brakes
    DOB 12/11/2018
    DOP 6/19/2019

    Water Wetter, K&N AirCharger/Drycharger, SS Inserts,
    SilverStar 9007SU, WeatherTech WeatherFlectors, Steering Wheel Badge,
    AutoMeter Gauges (Oil Press, Voltmeter, and Trans Oil Temp),
    ASC 840 VSS Sunroof, Kenwood KFC-C6879ie x4, COBRA Fender Badges,
    Z&M Rear Control Arms, FORD GT Coil Covers,
    Gorilla Lock Lugs all around, Decklid Designs Trunk Lid Liner,
    SCT Xcalibrator2 (Innovative Interceptors) w/Lidio's (Alternative Automotive) Marauder 3.55 tuning,
    4R75W by Fred Brown's Performance Transmission, tuned to match Lidio's tune,
    DG Motorsports Carbon Fiber Radiator Cover, Zack's Badgeless Grille,
    Accel 140034-8 Coil Packs, Granatelli Motorsports Coil-On-Plug wires
    Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of rice,
    I will fear no turbo for displacement is with me.

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    Incidentally, I sent an email to COMMAND to ask them for a estimate for replacement rotors.
    The email got bounced back to me with this error...

    Base directory of user 'rotors@commandautomotive.com' is 'xxxx'.
    Unable to deliver message, storage allocation exceeded.

    I guess COMMAND isn't reading email anymore...
    Are they still in business ?

    I also looked up on Rock Auto and the ONLY brakes they have listed are
    PowerStop Pads and Rotors.
    They come in complete sets.
    I am thinking of trying the Z26 kit. Rock Auto ships them for $320 to my door in 2 days.
    Last edited by MENINBLK; 03-12-2015 at 01:53 PM.
    Pete...


    2k04 BLACK Mercury Marauder 300A #810 of 3223
    DOB 10/31/2003
    DOP 1/2/2004
    2k19 AGATE FORD Edge ST with Performance Brakes
    DOB 12/11/2018
    DOP 6/19/2019

    Water Wetter, K&N AirCharger/Drycharger, SS Inserts,
    SilverStar 9007SU, WeatherTech WeatherFlectors, Steering Wheel Badge,
    AutoMeter Gauges (Oil Press, Voltmeter, and Trans Oil Temp),
    ASC 840 VSS Sunroof, Kenwood KFC-C6879ie x4, COBRA Fender Badges,
    Z&M Rear Control Arms, FORD GT Coil Covers,
    Gorilla Lock Lugs all around, Decklid Designs Trunk Lid Liner,
    SCT Xcalibrator2 (Innovative Interceptors) w/Lidio's (Alternative Automotive) Marauder 3.55 tuning,
    4R75W by Fred Brown's Performance Transmission, tuned to match Lidio's tune,
    DG Motorsports Carbon Fiber Radiator Cover, Zack's Badgeless Grille,
    Accel 140034-8 Coil Packs, Granatelli Motorsports Coil-On-Plug wires
    Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of rice,
    I will fear no turbo for displacement is with me.

  3. #63
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    More bad news for brake kit choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MENINBLK View Post
    I understand the physics of our Marauders and I also understand the needs of the community that has gently massaged their Marauders.

    I put a set of COMMAND ROTORS on my N/A Marauder 75,000 miles ago
    and I can safely say they are gone, warped and no longer usable.
    Since they are STEEL, who can I get to cut them ? Should I even try ?
    Would any local parts store be able to cut these ?
    Should I return them to COMMAND ?

    These babies are HEAVY. The original box weighed about 75b lbs.

    What can I use to replace these with using Ceramic Pads ?

    I saw these on Ebay and I laughed but they offer a 1 year warranty...

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-REAR-4...item43d4a6d1fa

    I want to be able to do a brake replacement that will last as long as these did,
    but I don't want to pay $1000 for a brake job either...
    The COMMAND rotors were $500+ in a group buy, so long ago, by Wes Chain.

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    Why laugh? I paid $199.00 shipped for all four Race Concepts rotors and cheap pads. Well over 50,000 miles and the rotors are true as could be! I just recently swapped out the pads. Although rare, good parts can be had for next to nothing sometimes. And believe me, I'm quite rough on this car..


    Builder Of Badassery
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    Cobra short block / ProCharger F1-A / Cog drive upgrade / Manley valves / Brian Tooley Racing valve springs / 80# inj. / -8 fuel line / -6 return / Aeromotive 340 pumps and regulator / 2012 GT500 TR6060 six speed / twin disc clutch / Driveshaft Shop GT500 upgraded CV joint shaft / BA5000 blow thru MAF/ 4.10's / Ford Racing 31 spline set up and Girdle / Metco D.S. safety loop / Stainless Works headers, cats, and everything else out back / ClassGlass hood / Bob's hood strut mod / Hurst line lock / Metco control arms / Addco front and rear sway bars / Monroe severe duty shocks all around / Race concepts rotors / Badgeless grille / 35% tint / FBM's interior LED kit and ambient lighting kit / Pioneer FB700 deck / kenwood speaker 4 Ch. / Rockford Fosgate 10" sub and amp / Kicker 6 X 8's all around / back up cam / bluetooth / Pioneer Xm / 704 RWHP 603 RWTQ tuned by Mo's Speedshop.

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    Bob,

    I laughed because $200 just seems too good to be true...

    If you have purchased these and they are as good as you say,
    then I just may have to try them out !!!

    Rock Auto wants $165 for replacement Rotor/Pads OE kit from
    AutoSpecialty Rotors with Evolution Pads from PowerStop.

    They want $300 for a full Z23 PowerStop Extreme Performance Rotor/
    PowerStop Evolution Sport Carbon Fiber/Ceramic Pad kit

    and $320 for a full Z26 PowerStop Extreme Performance Rotor/
    PowerStop Street Warrior New Formulation Ceramic Pad kit

    These prices are with a 10% Instant Rebate also...
    Pete...


    2k04 BLACK Mercury Marauder 300A #810 of 3223
    DOB 10/31/2003
    DOP 1/2/2004
    2k19 AGATE FORD Edge ST with Performance Brakes
    DOB 12/11/2018
    DOP 6/19/2019

    Water Wetter, K&N AirCharger/Drycharger, SS Inserts,
    SilverStar 9007SU, WeatherTech WeatherFlectors, Steering Wheel Badge,
    AutoMeter Gauges (Oil Press, Voltmeter, and Trans Oil Temp),
    ASC 840 VSS Sunroof, Kenwood KFC-C6879ie x4, COBRA Fender Badges,
    Z&M Rear Control Arms, FORD GT Coil Covers,
    Gorilla Lock Lugs all around, Decklid Designs Trunk Lid Liner,
    SCT Xcalibrator2 (Innovative Interceptors) w/Lidio's (Alternative Automotive) Marauder 3.55 tuning,
    4R75W by Fred Brown's Performance Transmission, tuned to match Lidio's tune,
    DG Motorsports Carbon Fiber Radiator Cover, Zack's Badgeless Grille,
    Accel 140034-8 Coil Packs, Granatelli Motorsports Coil-On-Plug wires
    Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of rice,
    I will fear no turbo for displacement is with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MENINBLK View Post
    Bob,

    I laughed because $200 just seems too good to be true...

    If you have purchased these and they are as good as you say,
    then I just may have to try them out !!!

    Rock Auto wants $165 for replacement Rotor/Pads OE kit from
    AutoSpecialty Rotors with Evolution Pads from PowerStop.

    They want $300 for a full Z23 PowerStop Extreme Performance Rotor/
    PowerStop Evolution Sport Carbon Fiber/Ceramic Pad kit

    and $320 for a full Z26 PowerStop Extreme Performance Rotor/
    PowerStop Street Warrior New Formulation Ceramic Pad kit

    These prices are with a 10% Instant Rebate also...
    I was interested in purchasing the Z26 setup too. However, I really only need rear pads. The Ford dealer told me he could just do a "pad slap" on the rear with the Motorcraft pads (lifetime warranty) and all should be good. I'm not sure about that, though.

    My car had a set of slotted rotors all the way around with fairly new pads in the front when I bought the car 2 years ago. They work decent, but, the rear pads are worn out. Should I just get pads or do rear rotors too?

    "RescuRauder", Born on 09/02/2003 & rescued on 04/05/2013. #236 of 3214 and #62 of 1237 in Black. CAI, Some kind of tune, Kooks Headers, X-pipe w/Hi-Flow cats, Magnaflow mufflers, Resonators removed, 4.10's, Metco U&L CA and Watts link, Drilled & slotted rotors, now BOOSTED!! Eaton Swapped 12/29/19!!
    Sold! 1986 Mustang GT Vert, Black, 5spd, new short block, Powerheads, Crower 15511, gears, exhaust etc.

    1968 Ford (Galaxie) XL fastback, 390, factory buckets & auto on floor
    2011 Shelby GT500, Kona Blue with SVT Performance Pkg & Navigation, VMP tuned ~550rwhp/550rwtq. Finally Blown!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MENINBLK View Post
    Bob,



    I laughed because $200 just seems too good to be true...



    If you have purchased these and they are as good as you say,

    then I just may have to try them out !!!



    Rock Auto wants $165 for replacement Rotor/Pads OE kit from

    AutoSpecialty Rotors with Evolution Pads from PowerStop.



    They want $300 for a full Z23 PowerStop Extreme Performance Rotor/

    PowerStop Evolution Sport Carbon Fiber/Ceramic Pad kit



    and $320 for a full Z26 PowerStop Extreme Performance Rotor/

    PowerStop Street Warrior New Formulation Ceramic Pad kit



    These prices are with a 10% Instant Rebate also...

    Normally I'd agree 100%! My sob story is easy, I was laid off for a year back then and needed brakes ASAP. My local flaps was $320 for OEM style rotors and pads. The owner of a Speedshop near me who I've known for quite some time suggested the Race Concept (now R1 Concepts) and not to give it a second thought because he uses them all the time.

    I couldn't have been happier. I was one of the first here to use them and many guys here have followed suit with the same results.

    No warping, no cracking, long lasting pad wear, normal stopping power, and a slight but no doubt improved stopping at the track.

    I didn't check the name brand you posted, I've only experienced the brand I bought on EBay. I figured it was the price that made you laugh, that's why I wanted to mention my experience along with plenty of others here.


    Builder Of Badassery
    SOLD 12/31/2021

    Cobra short block / ProCharger F1-A / Cog drive upgrade / Manley valves / Brian Tooley Racing valve springs / 80# inj. / -8 fuel line / -6 return / Aeromotive 340 pumps and regulator / 2012 GT500 TR6060 six speed / twin disc clutch / Driveshaft Shop GT500 upgraded CV joint shaft / BA5000 blow thru MAF/ 4.10's / Ford Racing 31 spline set up and Girdle / Metco D.S. safety loop / Stainless Works headers, cats, and everything else out back / ClassGlass hood / Bob's hood strut mod / Hurst line lock / Metco control arms / Addco front and rear sway bars / Monroe severe duty shocks all around / Race concepts rotors / Badgeless grille / 35% tint / FBM's interior LED kit and ambient lighting kit / Pioneer FB700 deck / kenwood speaker 4 Ch. / Rockford Fosgate 10" sub and amp / Kicker 6 X 8's all around / back up cam / bluetooth / Pioneer Xm / 704 RWHP 603 RWTQ tuned by Mo's Speedshop.

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    I had R1 Concepts rotors on all 4 on my CV sport before Marauder and had no issues, worked just fine with the Hawk pads I used. and they were like $258 delivered from their ebay listing. They have an ebay store as well as online.
    2004 SB Ported Trilogy 48
    Has supporting mods and stuff
    Thanks to Marty O for his help in updating this car.

    R.I.P.
    Rex "SC Cheesehead"

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