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Old 08-30-2005, 07:04 PM
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Motorcraft Tested Tough Max battery

Okay, so I'm about to drive off from Team Ford just about closing time for the shop on a Saturday after some mods had been installed, I notice unusual low voltages on my digital voltmeter. I show this to Scott, who tests the alternator, it's fine. He grabs a battery tester --- and the display says "replace battery."

Crap-o-la.

Scott takes me over to the service dept parts counter, a looksee around the parts bins, grabs a battery and is off to install it while American Express settles the bill with the parts guy.

I was just happy as hell to be hitting the road with a sound battery. What Scott put in was a Motorcraft Tested Tough Max. Yawn, you say? How about a warranty that includes free replacement for 36 months, with a 100 month limited warranty that includes FREE TOWING if the battery fails within the warrenty period? Cool!

http://www.genuineflmservice.com/default.asp?page=F3

It's Motorcraft BXT65850.

Best part was the discount. Thank you Scott!
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I installed a Motorcraft BXT65850 last feb. $79.95. I have had excellent results with Motorcraft replacement batteries.
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I installed a Motorcraft BXT65850 last feb. $79.95. I have had excellent results with Motorcraft replacement batteries.
Oops! Fixed a typo. Mine is a BXT65850 as well.
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Oops! Fixed a typo. Mine is a BXT65850 as well.

I need all the cca I can get here in Wisconsin
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Question Battery Replacement?

Was just reading some posts about batteries. Some of you stated that you did not like the MotorCraft batteries, others did.

I did some research and found that there is an InterState Megatron Plus #MTP-65 battery that lists for $95.95 and has 875 CCAs for our MM. Has anybody used an Insterstate battery before? Any opinions?
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:24 PM
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When my stock battery died I replaced it with a Motorcraft Super Duty (65 series) 1000 CCA battery. This one has been taking all of the abuse that I can throw at it and then some. You have to specify the 1000 CCA since the ford dealership that I went to was completely unaware that these batteries existed.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:42 PM
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Okay, so I'm about to drive off from Team Ford just about closing time for the shop on a Saturday after some mods had been installed, I notice unusual low voltages on my digital voltmeter. I show this to Scott, who tests the alternator, it's fine. He grabs a battery tester --- and the display says "replace battery."

Crap-o-la.

Scott takes me over to the service dept parts counter, a looksee around the parts bins, grabs a battery and is off to install it while American Express settles the bill with the parts guy.

I was just happy as hell to be hitting the road with a sound battery. What Scott put in was a Motorcraft Tested Tough Max. Yawn, you say? How about a warranty that includes free replacement for 36 months, with a 100 month limited warranty that includes FREE TOWING if the battery fails within the warrenty period? Cool!

http://www.genuineflmservice.com/default.asp?page=F3

It's Motorcraft BXT65850.

Best part was the discount. Thank you Scott!

To get the towing Warranty, do you have to have the dealer install it, or can you buy it off the shelf?
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<HR style="COLOR: #dddddd" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->When my stock battery died I replaced it with a Motorcraft Super Duty (65 series) 1000 CCA battery. This one has been taking all of the abuse that I can throw at it and then some. You have to specify the 1000 CCA since the ford dealership that I went to was completely unaware that these batteries existed....I thought the 65 series has been around for years...the 24F Sears Gold in my '79 F150 is over 10 years old and still takes a full charge! I've never had an auto battery last over 4 years before. The Motorcraft batts are definitely good and have tested well in 'Consumer Reports'.
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:18 PM
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<HR style="COLOR: #dddddd" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->When my stock battery died I replaced it with a Motorcraft Super Duty (65 series) 1000 CCA battery. This one has been taking all of the abuse that I can throw at it and then some. You have to specify the 1000 CCA since the ford dealership that I went to was completely unaware that these batteries existed....I thought the 65 series has been around for years...the 24F Sears Gold in my '79 F150 is over 10 years old and still takes a full charge! I've never had an auto battery last over 4 years before. The Motorcraft batts are definitely good and have tested well in 'Consumer Reports'.
The 65 series (this is the case size) has been around for years. The Super Duty comes in a 900 CCA version. It is the 1000 CCA version of the Super Duty battery that the dealer was unaware of.
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Alternative Auto tuning
Accufab Cobra Throttle Body
SCT 90MM MAF
Addco front and rear sway bars
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"Stainless Works" Long tube Headers and complete exhaust. (Max HP gain= 57.9 @ 6,100 RPM)
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:26 PM
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Consumer Reports has Rated the Motorcraft Highly. What suprised me is that the Group 65 rated highest was the Pep Boys House Brand (Now an Energizer)

Good to see you G Man. I still want to buy the car when you retire it
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:59 PM
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I'm about to replace my stock battery from 2000 with over 116,000 miles on the car. Still works, just doesn't have a lot of reserve for accessories without the engine running. Sounds like a Group 65 Motorcarft would be a good pick.


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Old 10-06-2005, 05:21 PM
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Battery Specs.

<CENTER>BCI Group Numbers, Dimensional Specifications, Polarity & Terminals </CENTER><TABLE cellSpacing=6 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=bottom align=right><TH align=left>Group</TH><TH>L"</TH><TH>W"</TH><TH>H"</TH><TH>Lmm</TH><TH>Wmm</TH><TH>Hmm</TH><TH>Figure</TH><TH>Polarity</TH><TH></TH><TH align=middle>Terminals</TH></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>22F</TD><TD>9.5</TD><TD>6.9</TD><TD>8.3</TD><TD>240</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>211</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>22NF</TD><TD>9.4</TD><TD>5.5</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>240</TD><TD>140</TD><TD>227</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>24</TD><TD>10.3</TD><TD>6.8</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>260</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>L/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>24F</TD><TD>10.3</TD><TD>6.8</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>260</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>25</TD><TD>9.1</TD><TD>6.9</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>230</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>L/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>26</TD><TD>8.2</TD><TD>6.9</TD><TD>7.8</TD><TD>208</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>197</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>L/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>26R</TD><TD>8.2</TD><TD>6.9</TD><TD>7.8</TD><TD>208</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>197</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>26 - 70</TD><TD>8.2</TD><TD>6.9</TD><TD>7.8</TD><TD>208</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>197</TD><TD>10 & 17</TD><TD>C-LINE</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP & SIDE</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>27</TD><TD>12.1</TD><TD>6.8</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>306</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>L/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>27F</TD><TD>12.1</TD><TD>6.8</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>306</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>29NF</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>5.5</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>330</TD><TD>140</TD><TD>227</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>33</TD><TD>13.3</TD><TD>6.8</TD><TD>9.4</TD><TD>338</TD><TD>173</TD><TD>238</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>34</TD><TD>10.3</TD><TD>6.8</TD><TD>7.9</TD><TD>260</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>200</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>L/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>34R</TD><TD>10.3</TD><TD>6.8</TD><TD>7.9</TD><TD>260</TD><TD>173</TD><TD>200</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SA</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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<TABLE cellSpacing=6 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>61</TD><TD>7.6</TD><TD>6.4</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>192</TD><TD>162</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>62</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>6.4</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>162</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>63</TD><TD>10.2</TD><TD>6.4</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>258</TD><TD>162</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>64</TD><TD>11.7</TD><TD>6.4</TD><TD>8.9</TD><TD>296</TD><TD>162</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>R/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>65</TD><TD>12.1</TD><TD>7.5</TD><TD>7.6</TD><TD>306</TD><TD>190</TD><TD>192</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>L/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD noWrap align=left>66</TD><TD>12.1</TD><TD>7.6</TD><TD>7.6</TD><TD>306</TD><TD>192</TD><TD>194</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>L/H-POS</TD><TH></TH><TD>TOP - SAE AUTO</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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To get the towing Warranty, do you have to have the dealer install it, or can you buy it off the shelf?
It has to be dealer installed... at least where I bought it it did.
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I was just happy as hell to be hitting the road with a sound battery. What Scott put in was a Motorcraft Tested Tough Max. Yawn, you say? How about a warranty that includes free replacement for 36 months, with a 100 month limited warranty that includes FREE TOWING if the battery fails within the warrenty period? Cool!
No offense, but there's nothing cool or unique about that. Walmart, Sears, Autozone, etc... pretty much carry batteries that all have the 3 year full replacement / 100 month pro-rated warranty. The only part that's unique is the free towing, but since it's dealer installed, I wouldn't get that if I bought a Motorcraft / JCI battery. I don't trust the local stealership to even LOOK at the battery. These are the same guys that tell me "Black is the wrong color" saying that I should never have bought a blue or black Ford because the paint will peel off. Buy white / red anything other than blue or black.

How old was the old battery? 3 years? My dad's experience with Ford factory batteries has been LESS THAN favorable. He bought a new 1981 T-bird off the lot in 1981 and after 3 months the battery crapped out leaving him stranded. He factory ordered a 1989 E-150 and the day after the 3 year warranty was up, his battery died leaving him stranded at work.

I took the initiative and dumped the factory Motorcraft Group 65 850 CCA battery in the Vic at 3 months and replaced with a Sears DH Gold. The 2003 E-250 is still running the factory Motorcraft battery, and I understand MANY Panther owners run the factory battery for 7-8+ years w/o any problems. That is why I'm keeping a close watch on the state of charge periodically.
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