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    Putting high stall torque convertor on car. Need Tranny Cooler.

    I got a high stall stallion torque convertor. I already ordered a B&M pan for a AOD/ AODE/ 4R70W transmission but I don't know what kind of tranny cooler I should get. I want something under $150 that will work. Any suggestions guys?
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    Absolutely Need One

    You absolutely need a trans cooler with a TC particularly living in FL. The B&M trans coolers are not effective - tried the largest and they are no good. Go for the "Long" trans cooler. DR sells them. It is by far the largest and best on the market. I rarely go above 180 degrees even in 98 degree weather. Also, leave your OEM trans cooler hooked up in series - it will help in cooling the trans.

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    Are you saying that B&M coolers are no good or that the pan is no good? I'm confused.

    http://www.reinhartperformance.com/M...ategory_Code=9

    Also is this the cooler you are referring too?
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    With that cooler, the pan would not have been needed!
    But you'll be adding more fluid and the big cooler will take even more, so it's not a bad idea.
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    Thumbs up See correction ---

    B&M trans cooler is not effective in my experience. I owned the biggest they made. Go with Long - 45,000 BTUs. NOTE: this one is for 32 degree plus temperatures. I also use the FRPP deep trans pan in connection with the cooler.

    Glenn

    Tru-Cool MAX transmission cooler *without external cold weather thermal bypass Quantity in Basket: none
    Code: 4739-1
    Price: $123.90
    Tru-Cool # LPD47391 40,000 GVW rating, 45,000 BTU rating
    8 1/2 x 22 3/4 x 1 1/4 inch
    3/8 inverter flare (fittings are included for thread to hose barbs)
    WITHOUT external thermal bypass. Lower cost for locations where there are mild winters!
    Trilogy #124 SOLD - 8/2014
    11.80 @ 117.16 MPH: SSHS9
    1.74 sec - 60'
    443 RWHP/437 RWTQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    You absolutely need a trans cooler with a TC particularly living in FL. The B&M trans coolers are not effective - tried the largest and they are no good. Go for the "Long" trans cooler. DR sells them. It is by far the largest and best on the market. I rarely go above 180 degrees even in 98 degree weather. Also, leave your OEM trans cooler hooked up in series - it will help in cooling the trans.

    Glenn
    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    B&M trans cooler is not effective in my experience. I owned the biggest they made. Go with Long - 45,000 BTUs. NOTE: this one is for 32 degree plus temperatures. I also use the FRPP deep trans pan in connection with the cooler.

    Glenn

    Tru-Cool MAX transmission cooler *without external cold weather thermal bypass Quantity in Basket: none
    Code: 4739-1
    Price: $123.90
    Tru-Cool # LPD47391 40,000 GVW rating, 45,000 BTU rating
    8 1/2 x 22 3/4 x 1 1/4 inch
    3/8 inverter flare (fittings are included for thread to hose barbs)
    WITHOUT external thermal bypass. Lower cost for locations where there are mild winters!

    I'll have to completely disagree with your assessment of B&M transmission coolers.
    I have a B&M transmission cooler installed 'in-line' with my OEM cooler.
    I installed it when I put in my Art Carr higher stall converter.
    The B&M cooler has a thermostatically controlled fan to help keep things cool even when you are not moving in traffic and have no airflow.
    I have never seen my transmission temperatures go over 185 degrees after I installed the B&M cooler.
    This includes hot lapping it at the drag strip.
    It will even come on while sitting in the waiting lanes with the engine off.
    (I have it wired so that it can run with the engine off.)

    This is what I have installed in front of my OEM radiator, behind the grille.
    (I moved my horns lower to make room)
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    http://www.bmracing.com/PRODUCTS/Hi-...Cooling-System
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    Ford racing tranny cooler, thats what I have and it works great, no issues.

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    No fan ---------

    I was only referring to non-fan type coolers. You cann't beat the Long for $123 for effectivenesss.

    Glenn
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    I took the B&M unit I had on, off and replaced it with the Long unit ( with a name like Long... it's can't be wrong!!!! )
    The new trans runs way cooler, but then again, it's rated at twice the GVW.......

    But that B&M served me well for 40-50,000 miles!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    B&M trans cooler is not effective in my experience. I owned the biggest they made. Go with Long - 45,000 BTUs. NOTE: this one is for 32 degree plus temperatures. I also use the FRPP deep trans pan in connection with the cooler.

    Glenn

    Tru-Cool MAX transmission cooler *without external cold weather thermal bypass Quantity in Basket: none
    Code: 4739-1
    Price: $123.90
    Tru-Cool # LPD47391 40,000 GVW rating, 45,000 BTU rating
    8 1/2 x 22 3/4 x 1 1/4 inch
    3/8 inverter flare (fittings are included for thread to hose barbs)
    WITHOUT external thermal bypass. Lower cost for locations where there are mild winters!
    Where is the best place to mount this cooler?

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    Lower Half of Radiator

    I mounted mine on the lower half of the radiator at an angle - not flat against the radiator.

    Glenn
    Trilogy #124 SOLD - 8/2014
    11.80 @ 117.16 MPH: SSHS9
    1.74 sec - 60'
    443 RWHP/437 RWTQ
    "Stock Internal Engine" - Click Below

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    Thanks Glenn.

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    Thanks guys! I decided on the TruMax meant for mild winters. It seems like a good unit and it is reasonably priced. I've seen the Ford Racing one before but I want something a bit heavier duty. Thanks again!

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    We have had cars running that Long cooler and converters upwards of 4500rpm who never see trans temps higher than 160. Just an FYI. Several have switched from the B&M coolers even with fans because the 180 plus temps they were seeing regularly scared them. The B&M stuff is great quality for sure though.

    Darrin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin View Post
    We have had cars running that Long cooler and converters upwards of 4500rpm who never see trans temps higher than 160. Just an FYI. Several have switched from the B&M coolers even with fans because the 180 plus temps they were seeing regularly scared them. The B&M stuff is great quality for sure though.

    Darrin
    Darrin,
    do you know of an add on temp/thermostat device that could be put in line?
    I was thinking that we in the cooler areas, could have such a device inline that would allow the factory cooler ( Made by LONG, btw) to be "on" then when temps hit a set point the 2nd unit comes into play.
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