Anyone running 1 15" sub?

[JBeezy]

I have wanted to replace the 2-10" subs with something smaller for a while now. Simply because I want my trunk space back. 1 12" may do the trick but idk. Let me know what you have and opinions Thanks in advance

[jwibbity]

I have wanted to replace the 2-10" subs with something smaller for a while now. Simply because I want my trunk space back. 1 12" may do the trick but idk. Let me know what you have and opinions Thanks in advance

If you want trunk space back, I'm the wrong guy to talk to, lol

but I'm pretty sure there's a guy on here with one 12" in the upper deck of the trunk. Or you can get a custom built box for your 10's that can fit there also.

[crownvic05]

If you want trunk space back, I'm the wrong guy to talk to, lol

but I'm pretty sure there's a guy on here with one 12" in the upper deck of the trunk. Or you can get a custom built box for your 10's that can fit there also.

Those are actually my plans. I have 2 cheap jbl 12" subs right now. I will be getting 2-10s high quality and build a box to fit on the rear shelf space. Ive seen 10" quality subs do extreamly well.

[jwibbity]

Those are actually my plans. I have 2 cheap jbl 12" subs right now. I will be getting 2-10s high quality and build a box to fit on the rear shelf space. Ive seen 10" quality subs do extreamly well.

Never really liked 10's, wife's car has 12's but they just don't have the same feel as the 15"

[Vortech347]

I had a single 10 in a box I built myself on the top shelf. Once I got everything dialed in it sounded fantastic. Don't use cheap **** and you can do more with less.

[8UWITH6]

Two 8's under the rear deck ported (port is inside the enclosure now). Soon to be 3 or 4 and ported into the rear deck.

[JBeezy]

My 2 Kenwood 10's do the job and well. Don't feel 1 10" will be what I want. I want the same bass or more with 1 sub

[MOTOWN]

Get a JL AUDIO 12" W7 , it will literally blow you away (if you can still hear) ! Lol

[Louisianimal]

This isn't the post I should be on. I have 2 kicker comp 15s in a double braced quad ported box built specifically for the marauder. Running off of factory deck with an autotek 3000 wired down to 2ohms pushing currently 2400watts.

[daddyusmaximus]

Those 15s are insane. I ran a 15 once, but that was in a Suburban, so I had tons of room. I have a JL Audio 12W3 in a sealed box out in my garage that I ran in my old Crown Vic. Sounded good, but the box is weird, made for another vehicle. I'll be building a new enclosure for it to fit under the rear tray in the Marauder. A 10 would be a better fit, and plenty for me, but I already have the 12, and left over lumber so there you are... Sometimes you use what you got. Hell, I still have that 15 inch Eclipse out there under one of my workbenches.

[03Merc]

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1 Kicker 15" L7
1 ZX1000.1 Amp
0 gauge pwr n gnd to 4 gauge.

It's ridiculously loud.


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[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Yeezus ^:eek: .

I sort of grew up from the heavy overly loud bass. I enjoy my lil 10" Alpine Type R.

[Blackmobile]

Here's what I run but truck space is a valuable commodity,

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/3/S5030382.JPG (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/7018/title/s5030382/cat/3)

and the arm rest must be up it turned up past the 1/4 mark.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/3/S5030387.JPG (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/7021/title/s5030387/cat/3)

[daddyusmaximus]

I love the sub firing through the arm rest hole idea. That was my first thought, using a single 10", until I calmed down. That would be too involved for me to do on my own and expensive to have done. Anything I do, I have to do without giving up too much trunk space.

[sailsmen]

You can get great Bass with a smaller driver and the right enclosure.

[slickster]

Yea 1 12 JL w6 500w amp in its recommended sealed box just laying in the trunk. Is more then enough. Not sure though if it will sound the same or worse if I put it in a custom box on the top row with the spare tire still there or on the side it would look neater though

[crownvic05]

Two 8's under the rear deck ported (port is inside the enclosure now). Soon to be 3 or 4 and ported into the rear deck.

That's very nice. My plans will be something like this but with two 10"s. Very nice set up.

[2,4shofast]

Two subs IMO will always sound better than one. If you are looking for space build a box in the upper deck for 2 high quality 10's. The reason I'm running one IDMAX 12" is because I had it from another project. Two IDMAX 10" would be optimal.

[jwibbity]

2 Kicker CVX 15's in a 6ft^3 ported enclosure running off a Hifonics BRX2000. The other pic is from when I installed the Zeus for the components.

Bass is life!:beer:

[daddyusmaximus]

Yea 1 12 JL w6 500w amp in its recommended sealed box just laying in the trunk. Is more then enough. Not sure though if it will sound the same or worse if I put it in a custom box on the top row with the spare tire still there or on the side it would look neater though

My 12" was mounted on the left side in my 99 Crown Vic. It sounded fine, but I never liked having the fuel shut off blocked, and don't want my Marauder's air compressor switch blocked either. I'm going to build a box in the next month to fit to the left of the spare. The sub will fire up through the factory sub hole.

[2,4shofast]

My 12" was mounted on the left side in my 99 Crown Vic. It sounded fine, but I never liked having the fuel shut off blocked, and don't want my Marauder's air compressor switch blocked either. I'm going to build a box in the next month to fit to the left of the spare. The sub will fire up through the factory sub hole.

Are you concerned with keeping the spare?

[daddyusmaximus]

Are you concerned with keeping the spare?

Yeah, and my truck space. I'm just going to build the box to fit the available space. I only need 1.1 cubic ft, and if I get anywhere close to that, I'm happy. I'm not into spl competitions or anything like that. I'm pretty sure it will sound way better than stock. Probably should run a 10" sub, but I already have that 12w3D-4 sitting there not being used.

[2,4shofast]

Yeah, and my truck space. I'm just going to build the box to fit the available space. I only need 1.1 cubic ft, and if I get anywhere close to that, I'm happy. I'm not into spl competitions or anything like that. I'm pretty sure it will sound way better than stock. Probably should run a 10" sub, but I already have that 12w3D-4 sitting there not being used.

That should work out pretty well for you then, do you already have an amp for it?

[daddyusmaximus]

Nope.

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[daddyusmaximus]

I have a couple apps from old systems I'm buying a new one. It will be a JL Audio 5 channel amp.

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[2,4shofast]

I have a couple apps from old systems I'm buying a new one. It will be a JL Audio 5 channel amp.

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Good choice.

[slickster]

My 12" was mounted on the left side in my 99 Crown Vic. It sounded fine, but I never liked having the fuel shut off blocked, and don't want my Marauder's air compressor switch blocked either. I'm going to build a box in the next month to fit to the left of the spare. The sub will fire up through the factory sub hole.

Yep best bet. Post it when it's done

[8UWITH6]

There is 3 cubes under the rear deck if not more. Should be plenty for anything if you design it properly for your driver(s).

[Turbov6Bryan]

There is 3 cubes under the rear deck if not more. Should be plenty for anything if you design it properly for your driver(s).

Post a picture of yours on the upper deck sukka

[JBeezy]

I want to keep my spare in place as well. I've been thinking of getting a box built for a 12 or a 15 to go in the right corner. May be my best bet. You all think the 1 15" in the corner will come close to the 2-10s?

[MOTOWN]

Two 10" s wont come close to a quality 15" sub.

[daddyusmaximus]

When the 15 inch woofers in my home speakers cracked and wore out I made a plate to mount a 10 in its place. I then mounted a 2nd 10 in the rear. They hit harder and not as mushey.

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[8UWITH6]

Two 10" s wont come close to a quality 15" sub.

False statement sir. There are a lot of variables to discuss. ;)

[8UWITH6]

Post a picture of yours on the upper deck sukka

Post 6 fool.

[MOTOWN]

False statement sir. There are a lot of variables to discuss. ;)

Say what you will, i disagree, and know better, take two of my favorites Jl Audio W7s , compare two 10" subs to one W7 15" be it sealed or ported enclosure, the 15" will come out on top;)

[daddyusmaximus]

It also depends on what the goal is. Some people want a more balanced sound. If you're not a bass lover, a 15 is overkill for the cabin of a car. If you love bass, 2 x 15s may not even be enough.

[8UWITH6]

Say what you will, i disagree, and know better, take two of my favorites Jl Audio W7s , compare two 10" subs to one W7 15" be it sealed or ported enclosure, the 15" will come out on top;)

I would like to know the definition of "on top". You left out so many different variables in your reply above. Sealed vs ported are two different ballgames. You haven't even discussed enclosure design. No mention of power to said drivers, let alone proper electrical on the car to properly feed the amplifier(s). Then you have impedance the amp sees with box rise, etc. How about the type of vehicle said enclosure/drivers are in. Properly set amp gains and crossovers. What about the type of music. Is the listener more into sound quality or sound pressure level. The list goes on and on and on. With that said to the OP or anyone else the enclosure design is key. You can adjust the enclosure volume, shape, and port frequency (if applicable) to your driver, your car, power level, and your taste in music. In other words, don't skimp on your enclosure otherwise you will be disappointed no matter what brand of equipment you have. Do not let the driver size decide your fate. It is a non issue.

Not starting an argument Roger............

I just would love to put my 8's up against that slow moving 15 of yours. :beer:

[MOTOWN]

I don't have a 15" , don't need that much bass in my old age! I think your going wayy off in left field though, I will probably do a single 12" or 10" sub personally, but once it's in place I'll make sure you get a listen, no stranger to car audio, lol.

[8UWITH6]

Thumbs up man. We will agree to disagree since you know better and are no stranger to car audio. I will be out in left field if you need me, LOL.

[2,4shofast]

Yeah this will be another dead horse, for SPL a 15 will most of the time will be much louder. But sound quality on 90% of 15's just don't cut if for me. I would take two smaller subs any day of the week.

Old system.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/shofast/Yukon/MVC-175F.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/shofast/media/Yukon/MVC-175F.jpg.html)

[jwibbity]

The response or "sound quality" of a sub is directly related to the type of enclosure you have and also your definition of sound quality. Picking subs is like picking women, everybody has different tastes.

Sorry MOTOWN, but 8UWITH6 is correct. Way too many variables to justify such a broad statement.

My brothers American Bass 10" subs would blow the doors off one of my 15" CVX's in any type of driver competition. But his subs were also 700 bucks for the pair.

[MOTOWN]

Hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion, i don't have a problem with that.

[8UWITH6]

Let's hug it out.

[jwibbity]

Let's hug it out.

I've got a better idea, lol :eek::eek:

[Chayton]

Two 8's under the rear deck ported (port is inside the enclosure now). Soon to be 3 or 4 and ported into the rear deck.

ughhh i likey

[BAD MERC]

I never liked giant subs. Sure, the impact is greater but SQ and efficiency nosedive. It takes a LOT of grunt to start/stop a 15" cone instantaneously and will cause lights to dim and electrical system woes trying to deliver all that amperage. I have three 10's in a tightly sealed enclosure with a 500/1 and I am more than happy with it being compact and delivers more bass than a majority of people need.

[MOTOWN]

Personally I'm thinking of 2 JL Audio 10" W7 subs , or 1 12" on a 500/1 amp , but it definitely has to be a custom box on the rear deck in the trunk, not going to use my actual trunk space for subs.

[daddyusmaximus]

I think we need an audio system pic thread. Share the ideas.

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[daddyusmaximus]

I agree with motown on not losing your trunk space.

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[MOTOWN]

I think we need an audio system pic thread. Share the ideas.

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Excellent idea!

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

So I built my own box, sealed, with internal chamber inside, to volume spec for 2 10" alpine Type Rs.. on spare tire deck.... Didn't like the sound. Seemed to be too close to the cabin, and was getting a flat not deep enough portion of the bass wave. Wonder if I should have ported the box? I have since removed because it took my spare space and creaked around back there above the spare tie down latch.

[daddyusmaximus]

I can see maybe the drivers not making the sound you like. Every one is different. The enclosure needs to be built for the exact driver too for the same reason. Even two 10 inch subs from the same manufacturer can require different volume. Plus a sealed box is tighter and requires more power to drive, and typically doesn't go as low as a ported box. I prefer the tight hit you get with a sealed box to the mushy boom a sealed box gives. I can't see how being too close to the cabin can make a difference. Best sub I ever had was a JL Stealthbox in a center console.

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[BAD MERC]

Excellent idea!

I am so gonna win this one. By a giant margin. :banana:

[MOTOWN]

I am so gonna win this one. By a giant margin. :banana:

Well lets see what cha got? Post in my thread!

[8UWITH6]

You guys would not believe how much of a difference setting up your amplifier gains correctly makes. Steve Meade on youtube sells a DD-1 tool which I bought a few years back. I used to set gains by ear. Then I graduated to using a DVOM. Now I use the DD-1 and it was worth every penny. I don't damage my equipment and I can crank the volume with confidence knowing I am not sending a clipped signal to my junk. Look into it if you are truly a car audio enthusiast. I can bring mine with me to Louisville if needed.

[daddyusmaximus]

Is this DD-1 something a typical stereo shop would have? I like to support local businesses whenever I can.

[8UWITH6]

Is this DD-1 something a typical stereo shop would have? I like to support local businesses whenever I can.

Great question, I would call and ask.

[JBeezy]

I have to say I finally got to try 1 15" sub and all I can say is wow. It out performs my 2 10's on every level. Sad thing is, it's a 15" Realistic house Speaker, but....

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[MOTOWN]

I have to say I finally got to try 1 15" sub and all I can say is wow. It out performs my 2 10's on every level. Sad thing is, it's a 15" Realistic house Speaker, but....

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Lol! I remember those radio shack woofers!:D

[BAD MERC]

Well lets see what cha got? Post in my thread!
It's all JL Audio and Eclipse. There's a backup camera in the keyhole, DVD/Nav/iPod. The floor conceals the spare tire. it's lighted with LED's that are RGB for any and all color combinations.

[03Merc]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160607/17386b41d5e0dfbc4224171546d9d6 df.jpg

(1) Kicker 15" L7 (2008)
(1) Kicker ZX1500.1 Amp (2008)
(0) Issues.


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[JBeezy]

Nice setups guys. I just want my trunk space back, and be able to use my trunk storage

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[daddyusmaximus]

I ended up keeping my trunk space. I used an old enclosure from a previous system I modified for the new 12" JL Audio sub. (old sub had a trashed surround) Took the factory sub out, and it's mounting bracket. The box fit right in. I welded bolts onto the floor and bolted it down.

Bolts welded on floor
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Sub box on garage floor
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Sub face
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Bolted down
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/daddyusmaximus/cars/021_zpsqaqunlrf.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/daddyusmaximus/media/cars/021_zpsqaqunlrf.jpg.html)

Finished install
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/daddyusmaximus/cars/003_zps44ao7syg.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/daddyusmaximus/media/cars/003_zps44ao7syg.jpg.html)

[JBeezy]

How does it sound? Install looks clean. I like it. Where's the amp?

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[daddyusmaximus]

Sounds wonderful. Took a while to get it all adjusted to my taste. The head unit controls were kinda overwhelming to an old fart who doesn't like reading instructions.

The silver thing with the wires coming out of it on top of the sub enclosure is the little JL Audio XD700/5v2 5-channel amp that runs the system. Speakers are also JL Audio. Fronts are the Evolution C3 5.25" Component Speakers, and the rears are the 5x7 versions of the same.

[JBeezy]

Nice!! I removed the 15" house Speaker of course, but I decided to try some things with my 10's. I left the amp in bridge mode and bridged the 2 10's and WOW! I've had these subs for years and didn't know they could hit like that.

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[slickster]

Thanks daddy that's what imado. Clean and simple

[crownvic05]

It's all JL Audio and Eclipse. There's a backup camera in the keyhole, DVD/Nav/iPod. The floor conceals the spare tire. it's lighted with LED's that are RGB for any and all color combinations.

This is out standing. Excellent set up man and looks real nice. I love that set up and still have plenty of trunk space left.

[daddyusmaximus]

Nice!! I removed the 15" house Speaker of course, but I decided to try some things with my 10's. I left the amp in bridge mode and bridged the 2 10's and WOW! I've had these subs for years and didn't know they could hit like that.

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Depends on if you wire two subs in series or parallel, as the resistance changes dramatically. Also make sure your amp is rated for the resistance load you end up with. If you run a 2 ohm load and your amp isn't rated for it, it will overheat and be damaged. My 12W3v3-2 is a 2 ohm sub that can handle 500 watts RMS, but it matches up real well with my amp that is 2 ohm rated, and can safely put out 300 watts at 2 ohm on the sub channel. I chose the speakers sub and amp I have because how well they match up with each other on the spech sheets, and I got a pretty damn good sound out of it.

[JBeezy]

Depends on if you wire two subs in series or parallel, as the resistance changes dramatically. Also make sure your amp is rated for the resistance load you end up with. If you run a 2 ohm load and your amp isn't rated for it, it will overheat and be damaged. My 12W3v3-2 is a 2 ohm sub that can handle 500 watts RMS, but it matches up real well with my amp that is 2 ohm rated, and can safely put out 300 watts at 2 ohm on the sub channel. I chose the speakers sub and amp I have because how well they match up with each other on the spech sheets, and I got a pretty damn good sound out of it.
My subs are Kenwood kfc-xw1100dvc and they are wired as shown below in Figure 5.

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Here are the specs for them

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160610/ed91b70cd7b3a4e8f98cd422279235 b7.jpg

I have them bridged and my amp is a Fosgate T5002 and here are the specs

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160610/70bc5f1b168998dbc4650295c778e8 8a.jpg

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[daddyusmaximus]

Should sound nice. What do you have for front and rear stage?

[JBeezy]

Should sound nice. What do you have for front and rear stage?
JL door and rear speakers on a JL 4 channel amp. I had 6x9's put in the rear as well. It does sound good, well better now. I would still like to have 1 15" I could install when we take trips and need the space

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[daddyusmaximus]

A single 12 can fit where the factory sub was... I love mine.

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[crownvic05]

Two 8's under the rear deck ported (port is inside the enclosure now). Soon to be 3 or 4 and ported into the rear deck.


How do you support the wood to the quarter panel where the amps are mounted?