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HotRaud90
03-09-2016, 08:44 AM
Anyone have one they bought when they had SPC bolts installed? I'm gettin them installed as soon as possible, but the shop I'm takin it to said they don't have that type of tool on hand.

Ford dealership I went to last couldn't get the Carfixer specs dialed in properly because the stock bolts were maxed out, even with bolt flags removed. Instead of the next shop tellin me the same thing, I'm just goin to install the SPC bolts and be done with it and never have to worry again.

Instead of buyin a brand new one only to use it once and probably never again, I wanted to see if anyone would be willing to ship me theirs and I can ship it back when I'm through havin the work done.

Please let me know if any of you have the bit (part #85137 or comparable) and are willing to help out! Thanks.

justbob
03-09-2016, 09:41 AM
Rotary files are $4.99 at hardware stores. The one I bought could easily do five more cars.


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camelgrundle
03-09-2016, 10:30 AM
I did mine with various step drill bits I had laying around and a dremel tool. It's a pain in the ass but it works.

MOTOWN
03-09-2016, 10:39 AM
I used a drill bit as well.

justbob
03-09-2016, 11:15 AM
Cheap rotary file took under five minutes per side. To think I actually kept putting it off..

Don't listen to some. Even if you used a drill bit or uni-bit like mentioned, it's a straight forward easy job unless you try using your teeth.

Some methods just take a bit more time, no biggie.


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HotRaud90
03-09-2016, 03:55 PM
Cheap rotary file took under five minutes per side. To think I actually kept putting it off..

Don't listen to some. Even if you used a drill bit or uni-bit like mentioned, it's a straight forward easy job unless you try using your teeth.

Some methods just take a bit more time, no biggie.


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Does it need to be a file designed to file down aluminum, or did you just use whatever you got your hands on? Last thing I want is some tech jankin it up and bein like "Sorry, it wasn't my fault cause blah blah blah...".

Mind including a picture of what you used or something comparable?

fastblackmerc
03-09-2016, 06:20 PM
Lowe's or Home Depot.

If the tech can screw it up you need to find someone else and the tech should find another line of work.

justbob
03-09-2016, 07:20 PM
Normally a brand name I'd NEVER use, but this time it worked great.

http://www.koblicksupply.com/veamrofime16.html?gclid=CLChjo GHtcsCFYwlgQodCaYJzQ

43420


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HotRaud90
03-09-2016, 11:06 PM
Normally a brand name I'd NEVER use, but this time it worked great.

http://www.koblicksupply.com/veamrofime16.html?gclid=CLChjo GHtcsCFYwlgQodCaYJzQ

43420


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Thank you, sir.

HotRaud90
03-11-2016, 09:26 AM
Took it to the shop this mornin and one of the techs said he had a rotary file at home that should do the trick. He said he would bring it in tomorrow morning so we can do it then.

They were thinkin they were going to have to drop steering rack until I showed the tech the video (which one guy said he didn't need) where it shows the rack merely being lifted to clear the bolt. They quoted me 2.5 hours labor to which I said it should not take anywhere near that long.

I will make sure the tech watches the video all the way through before the work is done. Experienced tech or not, I want them knowing exactly what they're doin. Once they do, I have no doubt it will get done correctly. He can act offended that I'm makin him watch the video, I don't care.

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Bad_S55
03-11-2016, 09:35 AM
While it's on my mind, how did you lower your car? Cut springs, Eaton, QA1?

Spectragod
03-11-2016, 09:48 AM
They were thinkin they were going to have to drop steering rack until I showed the tech the video (which one guy said he didn't need) where it shows the rack merely being lifted to clear the bolt. They quoted me 2.5 hours labor to which I said it should not take anywhere near that long.

I will make sure the tech watches the video all the way through before the work is done. Experienced tech or not, I want them knowing exactly what they're doin. Once they do, I have no doubt it will get done correctly. He can act offended that I'm makin him watch the video, I don't care.

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I'm curious, since you have watched the video, why not do it yourself?

Because, if it was easy, everyone would be doing it? Right

They quoted you 2.5 hours for the job, and you think because you watched a video on it, it should be less? I guess you have never worked a flat rate job. :shake:

MOTOWN
03-11-2016, 09:51 AM
I'm curious, since you have watched the video, why not do it yourself?

Because, if it was easy, everyone would be doing it? Right

They quoted you 2.5 hours for the job, and you think because you watched a video on it, it should be less? I guess you have never worked a flat rate job. :shake:

I was thinking the same! Also very funny how he's going to MAKE the tech watch a tutorial video! Young people! :shake:

Spectragod
03-11-2016, 10:10 AM
I was thinking the same! Also very funny how he's going to MAKE the tech watch a tutorial video! Young people! :shake:

The new generation of Marauder owner......

Wants to borrow a tool to loan to someone to work on his car... I go to shops that own their tools, I shouldn't have to provide a tech tools, or teach them.

Wants tech to watch a training video.....really?? If you have to have them watch that, they shouldn't be working on your car.

My favorite...... tell them what you'll pay, even though they quoted you 2.5 hours, wtf??? As I said, if you think it's easy, do it yourself, you are paying for overhead, taxes on the business, the tech, the tools the tech should own, insurance on the shop, insurance on the tech and many more items not noted, it's built into the quote. Otherwise, do it yourself in the driveway, what's the worst that can happen.

These are the same people that can't understand why we have so much money wrapped up in our cars with built motors, suspension, brakes, blowers etc...

camelgrundle
03-11-2016, 10:36 AM
I would not consider myself a mechanic but I have done 80% of the work on my own cars. It took me prolly 4 hours from start to finish on jack stands so I would be happy to pay 2.5 hrs for that job, but I watched the video and decided to do it myself. Also I am one of the younger wipper snappers lol.

MOTOWN
03-11-2016, 10:53 AM
I would not consider myself a mechanic but I have done 80% of the work on my own cars. It took me prolly 4 hours from start to finish on jack stands so I would be happy to pay 2.5 hrs for that job, but I watched the video and decided to do it myself. Also I am one of the younger wipper snappers lol.

Yeah but your more in touch with reality! Lol


The new generation of Marauder owner......

Wants to borrow a tool to loan to someone to work on his car... I go to shops that own their tools, I shouldn't have to provide a tech tools, or teach them.

Wants tech to watch a training video.....really?? If you have to have them watch that, they shouldn't be working on your car.

My favorite...... tell them what you'll pay, even though they quoted you 2.5 hours, wtf??? As I said, if you think it's easy, do it yourself, you are paying for overhead, taxes on the business, the tech, the tools the tech should own, insurance on the shop, insurance on the tech and many more items not noted, it's built into the quote. Otherwise, do it yourself in the driveway, what's the worst that can happen.

These are the same people that can't understand why we have so much money wrapped up in our cars with built motors, suspension, brakes, blowers etc...

Exactly! :bows:

camelgrundle
03-11-2016, 10:56 AM
Lol. That and my wallet!

HotRaud90
03-11-2016, 11:15 AM
The new generation of Marauder owner......

Wants to borrow a tool to loan to someone to work on his car... I go to shops that own their tools, I shouldn't have to provide a tech tools, or teach them.

Wants tech to watch a training video.....really?? If you have to have them watch that, they shouldn't be working on your car.

My favorite...... tell them what you'll pay, even though they quoted you 2.5 hours, wtf??? As I said, if you think it's easy, do it yourself, you are paying for overhead, taxes on the business, the tech, the tools the tech should own, insurance on the shop, insurance on the tech and many more items not noted, it's built into the quote. Otherwise, do it yourself in the driveway, what's the worst that can happen.

These are the same people that can't understand why we have so much money wrapped up in our cars with built motors, suspension, brakes, blowers etc...

Wooahhh. No need to get up in arms about what I said. There may be some misunderstanding here. Let me explain.

I'm simply sayin I'm gonna have him watch the video to make sure he knows exactly what he's gettin into before he starts. I have no doubt he can do the work, I've talked to him about it...but it is a custom procedure. I've heard too many horror stories about techs sayin "I know how to do that" and then the car gettin back to the customer done wrong. Showing him how the custom procedure is performed by the manufacturer is only a safeguard I'm takin. He may get a tip on how to better perform a step. Why not?

They also told me they'll have to drop the entire steering rack to access the camber bolts and room to work...they quoted 2.5 hours labor for THAT process alone (disassembly, reassembly, etc.). It may look like it will need that when you just eyball the assembly and are calculating the work, but I told them that this step does not need to be done, as outlined in the video. It only needs to be raised (unless I'm completely mistaken and I'm not seeing or hearing right). That could leave money in my pocket just by simply speakin up and lettin them know. Again, why wouldn't I do that?

I would love to do it in my driveway. I would in a heart beat, but I don't have access to all the tools needed at the moment. I recently replaced my front upper control arms, struts, rear shocks and changed my brake lines to stainless steel hoses. It's not like I don't understand or don't appreciate all the expertise and knowledge that it takes.

Trust me, I'm not just some young punk who doesn't understand all the inner workings of what it takes to perform a difficult task. I apologize if I stepped on any toes, but don't step on mine in assuming I'm just being an ungrateful, know-it-all turd. I hope I cleared up any misunderstanding.

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HotRaud90
03-11-2016, 11:17 AM
While it's on my mind, how did you lower your car? Cut springs, Eaton, QA1?
It hasn't been lowered. The last time I got it aligned the Ford dealership just simply couldn't get it into carfixer specs on stock bolts even with flags removed. I am doin this to ensure it can be aligned to carfixer specs anytime I want.

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HotRaud90
03-11-2016, 11:25 AM
I would not consider myself a mechanic but I have done 80% of the work on my own cars. It took me prolly 4 hours from start to finish on jack stands so I would be happy to pay 2.5 hrs for that job, but I watched the video and decided to do it myself. Also I am one of the younger wipper snappers lol.
They were quoting me 2.5 hours on having to dissasemble and reassemble the steering rack assembly alone. That didn't include the labor time for performing the installation of the new camber bolts, wallowing out the bolt holes, etc. I would be ok with 2.5 hours for the full job, no doubt. I think that's fair. But they were quoting me almost $500 for the job and an alignment.

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justbob
03-11-2016, 04:47 PM
You don't need to watch a video. The directions are more than adequate.


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HotRaud90
03-12-2016, 11:42 AM
Everything went smoothly today at the shop. I went in, dropped the keys off to the tech and explained to service manager that the instructions specified that you only need to lift the steering rack to access bolts, not remove or drop it. Info was relayed to tech, it was confirmed in the instructions manual, no hiccups or misunderstandings or anything of the sort.

The tech was also able to bring his aluminum rotary file kit and showed me pics of the work. It looked great.

He quoted me 2 hours for the whole job and then an alignment. Paid $278 for the whole thing. The car now has a proper alignment almost dead on to carfixer specs and tracks true on the road. I'm happy with the results.

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1Marauder
03-13-2016, 11:19 AM
Wooahhh. No need to get up in arms about what I said. There may be some misunderstanding here. Let me explain.

I'm simply sayin I'm gonna have him watch the video to make sure he knows exactly what he's gettin into before he starts. I have no doubt he can do the work, I've talked to him about it...but it is a custom procedure. I've heard too many horror stories about techs sayin "I know how to do that" and then the car gettin back to the customer done wrong. Showing him how the custom procedure is performed by the manufacturer is only a safeguard I'm takin. He may get a tip on how to better perform a step. Why not?

They also told me they'll have to drop the entire steering rack to access the camber bolts and room to work...they quoted 2.5 hours labor for THAT process alone (disassembly, reassembly, etc.). It may look like it will need that when you just eyball the assembly and are calculating the work, but I told them that this step does not need to be done, as outlined in the video. It only needs to be raised (unless I'm completely mistaken and I'm not seeing or hearing right). That could leave money in my pocket just by simply speakin up and lettin them know. Again, why wouldn't I do that?

I would love to do it in my driveway. I would in a heart beat, but I don't have access to all the tools needed at the moment. I recently replaced my front upper control arms, struts, rear shocks and changed my brake lines to stainless steel hoses. It's not like I don't understand or don't appreciate all the expertise and knowledge that it takes.

Trust me, I'm not just some young punk who doesn't understand all the inner workings of what it takes to perform a difficult task. I apologize if I stepped on any toes, but don't step on mine in assuming I'm just being an ungrateful, know-it-all turd. I hope I cleared up any misunderstanding.

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Nicely done... Great tempered response.

I ALSO took video clip and directions to my guy, and he watched and thanked me. Younger folks are video/learn centric, as they grew up being taught via video, while us older folks grew up learning via apprenticeship.

Both are valid--although since I am old, I lean toward school of hard knocks/learn from mistakes mindset... While younger folks watch the video's, and try to avoid the mistakes altogether.

Since these cars are a little different, I think arming yourself with all of the data, and sharing with the installer it prior to having work done can only help with the install expectations.

HotRaud90
03-13-2016, 05:30 PM
Nicely done... Great tempered response.

I ALSO took video clip and directions to my guy, and he watched and thanked me. Younger folks are video/learn centric, as they grew up being taught via video, while us older folks grew up learning via apprenticeship.

Both are valid--although since I am old, I lean toward school of hard knocks/learn from mistakes mindset... While younger folks watch the video's, and try to avoid the mistakes altogether.

Since these cars are a little different, I think arming yourself with all of the data, and sharing with the installer it prior to having work done can only help with the install expectations.

Thank you, sir. I appreciate your understanding of where I was comin from and your validation of my reasoning. I do tend to be the type that likes to try and avoid all mistakes by simply takin the extra time to research and take precautionary measures to ensure somethin is done right the first time.

As I stated before, the work has been done properly and I walked away a happy customer. The younger tech that assisted the main tech even took pics during the process to show me the results of the work. All because I showed interest in the process and how the work was handled.

By the way, those are beautiful Marauders you have. They look detailed to the max!