Brembo brakes on Marauder!

[Lowndex]

The wait is over. I am the owner of 6 piston, monoblock Brembo brakes. :party:

Front 15" rotors: Wilwood SRP Drilled Performance Rotor (http://www.wilwood.com/Rotors/RotorProd.aspx?itemno=160-13472-BK) $369.00 / ea
Rear 14" rotors: Wilwood SRP Drilled Performance Rotor (http://www.wilwood.com/Rotors/RotorProd.aspx?itemno=160-8396-BK) $330.00 / ea
Front and Rear calipers: Brembo GT 6 piston monoblock (http://www.brembo.com/en/car/sporting-use/gt-braking-systems) eBay or online Brembo dealer. $650 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-GT500-6-Piston-Front-Brembo-Brake-Kit-OEM-Mustang-GT-Shelby-Ford-05-14-/192057754379?hash=item2cb788c3 0b:g:KdQAAOSwA3dYWD61&vxp=mtr) - 900 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-GT500-6-Piston-Front-Brembo-Brake-Kit-OEM-Mustang-GT-Shelby-Ford-05-14-/192057754379?hash=item2cb788c3 0b:g:KdQAAOSwA3dYWD61&vxp=mtr) for two

Brembo calipers I have installed: Front (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-GT500-6-Piston-Front-Brembo-Brake-Kit-OEM-Mustang-GT-Shelby-Ford-05-14-/192057754379?hash=item2cb788c3 0b:g:KdQAAOSwA3dYWD61&vxp=mtr) and Rear (http://www.ebay.com/itm/07-09-FORD-SHELBY-GT500-MUSTANG-FRONT-BREMBO-BRAKE-CALIPERS-ROTORS-GT-500-BLACK-/262774384420?hash=item3d2e92e7 24:g:F6IAAOSwJ7RYXJfZ&vxp=mtr)

Wilwood Master Cylinder:


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[LG88]

Oh my! Me like

[Lowndex]

The mounting hardware came out of the blocks of billet aluminum. I will post finished pictures late next week or the week after - a side view of both front and rear Brembo brake kits.

[LG88]

The mounting hardware came out of the blocks of billet aluminum. I will post finished pictures late next week or the week after - a side view of both front and rear Brembo brake kits.

Any idea of the ballpark the whole kit will run? Front and back?

[Lowndex]

Any idea of the ballpark the whole kit will run? Front and back?

I do not know. Email KC and share what you learn.

kc@brgracing.com

[RubberCtyRauder]

These need 20" rims to run at the size he had made..Have to check with KC, the fabricator, about possible 18" sets.

[510paesan]

$$$


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[MOTOWN]

The wait is over. I am the owner of 6 piston, monoblock Brembo brakes. :party:

Fronts are done; rears this week. Want a set yourself? You know who to contact.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/922/L4Hcta.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmL4Hctaj)

Just curious, the picture you share is a picture of the rear brakes:confused:

[jwibbity]

Just curious, the picture you share is a picture of the rear brakes:confused:

:beer:

good catch, lolol

[Zack]

I'd conservatively guess 5k for the front and rear package

[justbob]

Looking closely at that pic it appears they cut down a slotted rotor and bolted a rotor ring to it??

You guys seeing the slots to the left of the top bolt?


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[Lowndex]

These need 20" rims to run at the size he had made..Have to check with KC, the fabricator, about possible 18" sets.

After making the 20" brake hats and mounting hardware, KC is ready to make 18" parts.

[Lowndex]

Just curious, the picture you share is a picture of the rear brakes:confused:

Did I get my pictures mixed up?

[Lowndex]

I'd conservatively guess 5k for the front and rear package

No, not anywhere near that amount. You are buying brake hats and mounting hardware only. You may purchase the rotors and calipers yourself. That was the whole point.

[RubberCtyRauder]

No, not anywhere near that amount. You are buying brake hats and mounting hardware only. You may purchase the rotors and calipers yourself. That was the whole point.


I think maybe he meant with purchasing rotors and calipers, not just KC's fabrication work..by the time one buys all that is needed

[Lowndex]

I think maybe he meant with purchasing rotors and calipers, not just KC's fabrication work..by the time one buys all that is needed

It should be easy to look up the parts cost. I texted moments ago asking the p/n's for the rotors and calipers and share here.

[Bad_S55]

Anything can be added on to anything with enough R&D. It's just a matter of if you actually want to burn that much time doing it.

[Lowndex]

Anything can be added on to anything with enough R&D. It's just a matter of if you actually want to burn that much time doing it.

My goal was to provide all 2003-2004 Marauder owners the ability to order Wilwood or Brembo factory made rotors and calipers from standard parts suppliers. The project cost me a 30 day delay getting my Marauder completed and serious R&D $. The benefit to all at www.mercurymarauder.net who have and continue to help me make the brake project a success. :beer:

A YouTube video will follow in April showcasing the project and benefits.

[Mr. Man]

Did you do a series of 60-0 stops with the old factory brakes so you could compare stopping distances with the new setup?

[Lowndex]

Did you do a series of 60-0 stops with the old factory brakes so you could compare stopping distances with the new setup?

This project started with my engine dying. I will need to find a local member with a stock setup.

Also, Lifespeed has the TCE Plus 4 kit we will use to compare with my Brembo kit and the Hydratech brake booster.

[Lowndex]

I updated my post with rotor and calipers information.

[1Marauder]

I CAN POVIDE TO LOCAL LOW MILE STOCK CAR FOR COMPARITIVE TESTING

[Lowndex]

I CAN PROVIDE TO LOCAL LOW MILE STOCK CAR FOR COMPARATIVE TESTING

Good to hear.

[Lowndex]

On the original post, I added a picture of the new brake hat, rotor and Brembo caliper. The wheel and tire are what Lifespeed has installed. The car will be lowered this week
(picture to follow). My wheels are yet to arrive.

[MOTOWN]

Gotta love the 15" rotors! Im considering a 16" rotor setup , taking about it with Todd from TCE.

[Lowndex]

Gotta love the 15" rotors! Im considering a 16" rotor setup , taking about it with Todd from TCE.

At the hp you run, you need a parachute.

[Lowndex]

Now imagine your 18" wheels and tires running high performance Brembo or Wilwood rotors and calipers you buy from Rockauto, Summit Racing, Jegs, etc. "Starting to see pictures, ain't ya'? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw0NoBREwN0)"

[MOTOWN]

At the hp you run, you need a parachute.

Yeah but I drive like a Grampa! Wait i actually am now! Lol

[lji372]

Yeah but I drive like a Grampa! Wait i actually am now! Lol

Did not know this old man. Congrats :beer:

[MOTOWN]

Did not know this old man. Congrats :beer:

Yeah my son Cameron is 23 , who just recently welcomed Cameron Jr to the mix , proud of my boy he just got hired into General Motors foundry division so he can penny pinch his own coin!

[daddyusmaximus]

Now imagine your 18" wheels and tires running high performance Brembo or Wilwood rotors and calipers you buy from Rockauto, Summit Racing, Jegs, etc. "Starting to see pictures, ain't ya'? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw0NoBREwN0)"
Sounds good.

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[Todd TCE]

Love to do a 16" kit for someone...but it brings a host of problems.

1. Rotor mass. The 'rings' alone now weigh in at 23lbs each.
2. Rotor width. These are a full 1.375" wide.
3. Caliper clearance. Thus the caliper is yet farther out near the spokes!
4. Hats. Limited choice of hats to work with due to the enormous bolt circle of the rotor.
5. Costs. Everything, and I mean everything...is more costly. From parts to shipping.

[MOTOWN]

Gotta pay to play! Wouldn't use it if i was racing , but were talking about 4,250lb Marauders!

[Lowndex]

Love to do a 16" kit for someone...but it brings a host of problems.

1. Rotor mass. The 'rings' alone now weigh in at 23lbs each.
2. Rotor width. These are a full 1.375" wide.
3. Caliper clearance. Thus the caliper is yet farther out near the spokes!
4. Hats. Limited choice of hats to work with due to the enormous bolt circle of the rotor.
5. Costs. Everything, and I mean everything...is more costly. From parts to shipping.


There is a new source for the 6061 T6 billet aluminum brake hat and mounting system/hanger: BRG Racing. :banana2:

[lifespeed]

Love to do a 16" kit for someone...but it brings a host of problems.

1. Rotor mass. The 'rings' alone now weigh in at 23lbs each.
2. Rotor width. These are a full 1.375" wide.
3. Caliper clearance. Thus the caliper is yet farther out near the spokes!
4. Hats. Limited choice of hats to work with due to the enormous bolt circle of the rotor.
5. Costs. Everything, and I mean everything...is more costly. From parts to shipping.

At some point you've accomplished enough thermal mass, pad wear volume and mechanical/hydraulic advantage for modulation.

That is the great thing about car mods, you can do whatever you like.

[lifespeed]

Those brakes look great! The wheels and tires look vaguely familiar.

[Lowndex]

Those brakes look great! The wheels and tires look vaguely familiar.

I 'borrowed' them from a guy with a broken motor. I figured he was not using them.

[hotford]

When will the billet hats be available.

[Lowndex]

When will the billet hats be available.

Email and ask - kc@brgracing.com

[Lowndex]

Looking closely at that pic it appears they cut down a slotted rotor and bolted a rotor ring to it??

You guys seeing the slots to the left of the top bolt?


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The Wilwood rotors are stock - no modifications. The brake hat design does not modify the rotors or calipers.

[Lowndex]

I'd conservatively guess 5k for the front and rear package


Purchase the BRG Racing brake hat kit and install the following:

http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-6piston-brake-kit-0514.html

or you could spend more:

http://www.americanmuscle.com/brembo-gtr-front-brake-kit-drilled-2015.html

or just buy the parts listed above.

[Lowndex]

A writer from Hot Rod magazine (http://www.hotrod.com/) stopped by BRG Racing today to hear about the new brake hat design. They were impressed and, as consideration for a future article, asked KC for pricing information for both 18" and 20" applications. Cool.

[daddyusmaximus]

That's good exposure.

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[Lowndex]

Lifespeed visited BRG Racing today with me and saw the Brembo kit. He drooled a bit. :)

Also discussed the JRi coilover shocks for the Marauder. Thank you for the help, Lifespeed.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Who provides brackets and lines?

[Lowndex]

Who provides brackets and lines?

The BRG Racing kit will include the hat and mounting parts. Brake lines are your responsibility.

I will have pictures in a couple of weeks - waiting for powder coating. Of course, you do not need to pay for powder coating for parts no one will ever see, but I am off my rocker that way.

[ginger]

Any new updates on this?

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[Lowndex]

Any new updates on this?

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Email and ask for pricing: kc@brgracing.com

[ginger]

Email and ask for pricing: kc@brgracing.com
I had emailed him a couple weeks ago. He said he was working out some details with the kit. Gotta be busy when you do quality work like that...

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[Lowndex]

I had emailed him a couple weeks ago. He said he was working out some details with the kit. Gotta be busy when you do quality work like that...

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When you email kc next, tell him you intend to post his reply for other interested parties knowledge.

When I see KC next, I will let him know our forum wants availability and price information.

[1Marauder]

WHEN CAN US LOCALS SEE THIS RIDE???

[Lowndex]

WHEN CAN US LOCALS SEE THIS RIDE???

Visit BRG Racing.

Wait for the Dyno Day announcement.

[1Marauder]

NNNOOOOOOOO.... I AM TALKING DYNO TEST....

[lji372]

NNNOOOOOOOO.... I AM TALKING DYNO TEST....

Right, we're looking for that 400rwhp :D

[Lowndex]

I misunderstood. I thought you were interested in the brakes. July is the projected Dyno Day in San Jose. I will have five $100 bills on me if 400 is not achieved.

It will be tough, considering Fordnut current natural aspirated record of 378 rwhp.

[Bad_S55]

I misunderstood. I thought you were interested in the brakes. July is the projected Dyno Day in San Jose. I will have five $100 bills on me if 400 is not achieved.

It will be tough, considering Fordnut current natural aspirated record of 378 rwhp.

If you want to get nit picky, that is about 420 at the crank.

[lji372]

If you want to get nit picky, that is about 420 at the crank.

read the whole story part timer.
oh, get back to class!! or is it milk and cookie break? :P :P :P :P

[Lowndex]

Brake hanger photos.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/922/CLeYDE.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmCLeYDEj)

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[510paesan]

What the


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[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Those brackets are hot. :eek:

[WPG_Merc]

[QUOTE
It will be tough, considering Fordnut current natural aspirated record of 378 rwhp.[/QUOTE]

:woohoo: I got second place of N/A record of 345 RW/HP with a stock block.

[tbone]

If you want to get nit picky, that is about 420 at the crank.

I was told by my tuner that the loss to the wheels is 20%. So 378 rwhp divided by .80 = 472.5 crank hp.

I have 440 rwhp/.80 = 550 crank hp. :)

[Lowndex]

[QUOTE
It will be tough, considering Fordnut current natural aspirated record of 378 rwhp.

:woohoo: I got second place of N/A record of 345 RW/HP with a stock block.[/QUOTE]

I look forward to the challenge.

[Lowndex]

I was told by my tuner that the loss to the wheels is 20%. So 378 rwhp divided by .80 = 472.5 crank hp.

I have 440 rwhp/.80 = 550 crank hp. :)

But not NA.

[RubberCtyRauder]

It's not 20% , it's close to 15% but is really more of a relative constant value is what I heard

[RubberCtyRauder]

But not NA.

Yours isn't a stock block either so it's sort of apples to oranges. Yours is stroked etc. I hope the goal is met, but there is a difference

[justbob]

I was told by my tuner that the loss to the wheels is 20%. So 378 rwhp divided by .80 = 472.5 crank hp.



I have 440 rwhp/.80 = 550 crank hp. :)


Correction.


It's not 20% , it's close to 15% but is really more of a relative constant value is what I heard





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[Lowndex]

Yours isn't a stock block either so it's sort of apples to oranges. Yours is stroked etc. I hope the goal is met, but there is a difference

Yes, between stroker and s/c, there is a big difference. One ia NA and other is not. This comment is related tot he claim of 440 rwhp - most likely s/c'd.

Fordnut, Motown and the rest involved in the bet are well aware I have a 5.3L Stroker.

[RubberCtyRauder]

I meant your block vs stock block, not vs a supercharge one. Difference in yours to stock block. 4.6 vs 5.3 so not a true comparison, still wishing the numbers to be positive

[Lowndex]

We are cool. But this thread is about Brembo brakes; not rwhp 'mines bigger'.

[RubberCtyRauder]

We are cool. But this thread is about Brembo brakes; not rwhp 'mines bigger'.

I know, and somewhere it got sidetracked which I added to the sideways motion, didn't mean to..back to brembo scheduled programming:banana2:

[lji372]

But them brem bro!!!!!

[ginger]

But them brem bro!!!!!
This comment wins

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[hotford]

any more updates......

those 6 piston Brembos wouldnt happen to be off a newer 15 and up Gt cars, or even off a PP 2.3 turbo stang............
my cost on those is dirt.................

[MyBlackBeasts]

Gotta pay to play! Wouldn't use it if i was racing , but were talking about 4,250lb Marauders!

PLUS driver and beer weight!!! ;)

[lji372]

any more updates......

those 6 piston Brembos wouldnt happen to be off a newer 15 and up Gt cars, or even off a PP 2.3 turbo stang............
my cost on those is dirt.................

I'll trade you metal chips for dirt :cool:

[Lowndex]

Sorry, I do not get the joke.

[Zack]

I get it.
;);)

[03BlackWindDOHC]

Any updates? Also, what are some good brake upgrades, besides going this far. Thanks!

[burt ragio]

Who supplies the brake lines ?

[hotford]

I'll trade you metal chips for dirt :cool:

Sure.........lol

he still didn't answer the question..........

what are the calipers off?? 13-14 Shelby or the newer 15 up mustangs?

[Lowndex]

Who supplies the brake lines ?

Your choice. BRG Racing made mine.

[Lowndex]

Sure.........lol

he still didn't answer the question..........

what are the calipers off?? 13-14 Shelby or the newer 15 up mustangs?

2015 Ford GT Shelby

[hotford]

Are the front rotors your using the same dimensions and offset as 15 up Shelby's.

looks bad azz........

[burt ragio]

Are there alternative companies & cost for the 16" rotors ?

[RubberCtyRauder]

His particular set up wont fit Marauder wheels, need 20" with proper offset. 16" rotor won't fit Maraduer wheel anyway

[burt ragio]

Yes, I read in a previous post 20" wheels are needed.

[RubberCtyRauder]

OK, just making sure you were aware of the need to change wheels.

[Lowndex]

Are the front rotors your using the same dimensions and offset as 15 up Shelby's.

looks bad azz........

The specs for the rotors are in the thread description.

[Lowndex]

Are there alternative companies & cost for the 16" rotors ?

With the BRG Motosports brake design, you use a custom brake hat and hanger. This allows use og Wilwood, Brembo and other 16" disc rotors.

[Lowndex]

His particular set up wont fit Marauder wheels, need 20" with proper offset. 16" rotor won't fit Maraduer wheel anyway

Yes and no. My setup requires a 20" wheel. BRG Motorsports is planning a design for 17" wheels.

[hotford]

Purchase the BRG Racing brake hat kit and install the following:

http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-6piston-brake-kit-0514.html

or you could spend more:

http://www.americanmuscle.com/brembo-gtr-front-brake-kit-drilled-2015.html

or just buy the parts listed above.

little confused in your earlier post you said to use these ^^^^
but when i asked what year calipers are you going with you stated 15 up shelby
well the two years are total different, 13-14 shelby calipers are not the same as 15 up shelby calipers......
offset for the rotor dimensions from 13-14 vs 15 up have been changed by ford.

[Lowndex]

little confused in your earlier post you said to use these ^^^^
but when i asked what year calipers are you going with you stated 15 up shelby
well the two years are total different, 13-14 shelby calipers are not the same as 15 up shelby calipers......
offset for the rotor dimensions from 13-14 vs 15 up have been changed by ford.

I have copied your post and sent it to KC for clarification. I think it is best we hear from KC and not my layman interpretation. I may have something tonight; else, by tomorrow. If you wish to discuss the matter with KC personally, please feel free. (925)680-2560. KC will not know you by your given name, so state, "Fordnut" is calling. He knows the name, "Fordnut".

[martyo]

hotford, make sure you have this with you when you call. It worked for Julius Rosenberg. :D

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q562/martin_ochsMartyO/Mobile%20Uploads/2012-09/B1ED3594-DBC9-4F51-B9C1-0C2BA654AACA_zps9yigfxow.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/martin_ochsMartyO/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2012-09/B1ED3594-DBC9-4F51-B9C1-0C2BA654AACA_zps9yigfxow.jpg.h tml)

[hotford]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^LMFAO^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^

[Lowndex]

According to KC, any Brembo 6 piston GT monoblock caliper canbe made to work on a 20" wheel with enough offset to clear the caliper. Tbe beaje design change to the hat and/or hanger is less of concern that wheel spoke clearance. If you wish, contact KC at kc@brgracing.com.

[hotford]

According to KC, any Brembo 6 piston GT monoblock caliper canbe made to work on a 20" wheel with enough offset to clear the caliper. Tbe beaje design change to the hat and/or hanger is less of concern that wheel spoke clearance. If you wish, contact KC at kc@brgracing.com.

Thats great an all.........

so which one are you currently using on your car?

do you happen to have the Ford part number by chance..

thanks.

[Lowndex]

Thats great an all.........

so which one are you currently using on your car?

do you happen to have the Ford part number by chance..

thanks.

Ford GT500, 2013-2014 (front)
Ford GT500, 2007 (rear)

I do not know why thise calipers were chosen over all 2015. Perhaps KC provided what I needed and saved $. Email and ask him the particulars.

[hotford]

Ford GT500, 2013-2014 (front)
Ford GT500, 2007 (rear)

I do not know why thise calipers were chosen over all 2015. Perhaps KC provided what I needed and saved $. Email and ask him the particulars.

Thank You.

[Lowndex]

I have asked KC why the particular calipers were chosen. I will share his response. With the hat and hanger design completed, those who follow me will have an another big brake option.

[dohc324ci]

Thanks for the info bud looking forward to the completed project! Gonna one bad Marauder when done.

[Lowndex]

Thank you.

[lifespeed]

Thanks for the info bud looking forward to the completed project! Gonna one bad Marauder when done.

Maybe one day we can bring these long-lost Marauders to a bay area meet. Dead Marauders are sad, present company excepted of course.