steering wheel shake

[Bradley G]

Finally, I got more info on steering wheel shake . I still have this problem only tried conventional [4] wheel balance so far . "in some affected vehicles , there may be insufficient torque on the lock ring that secures the steering gear yoke plug. This condition has no affect on steering effort or directional control.Driver symptoms are confined to a rattle and vibration during parking or while driving on rough roads . The other bulletin I found regarding this issue is body mounts {TSB98-1-11}2003 & 2004 cv gm vehicles may exhibit a steering nibble above 44mph .Steering nibble is described as a slight rotational back and forth movement of the steering wheel. tsb for road force balance is 02-1-6 hope this helps I will post my results asap:o

[ts-pa]

The other bulletin I found regarding this issue is body mounts {TSB98-1-11}2003 & 2004 cv gm vehicles may exhibit a steering nibble above 44mph .Steering nibble is described as a slight rotational back and forth movement of the steering wheel. tsb for road force balance is 02-1-6 hope this helps I will post my results asap:o

Where does one obtain these "Technical Service Bulletins"?

[Bradley G]

Where does one obtain these "Technical Service Bulletins"?I work for Ford I looked 'em up on the computer ;) Ford dealer web page business to business

[ts-pa]

Can anyone who does not work for Ford or a dealership get to view or a copy of these?

Sorry if I've "hijacked" this thread on the TSB qusetions.

I get the "shakes" also. Most noticable at 50+ MPH speeds. :depress:
I hit 90 just once (just to clean the exhaust out, you know what I mean? ;) ). The most horrible "vibration/noise" came from the drive line.

[Bradley G]

Can anyone who does not work for Ford or a dealership get to view or a copy of these?

Sorry if I've "hijacked" this thread on the TSB qusetions.

I get the "shakes" also. Most noticable at 50+ MPH speeds. :depress:
I hit 90 just once (just to clean the exhaust out, you know what I mean? ;) ). The most horrible "vibration/noise" came from the drive line. That is how it seems, I don't think it is supposed to be common knowledge . Proper Channels are supposed to be followed.The driveline noise you describe may be the drive shaft . There is a ton of info on this topic . My suggestion is to drive with someone from the dealership and duplicate this symptom. The next time the exhaust needs cleaned

[2003DOHC]

I am lucky I guess had the MM up to 110 mph smooth as glass.

[ts-pa]

The question about TSB is what I suspected, it really does mean "Top Secret Bulletin" for the general public.
The driveshaft vibration is what I thought also. Since this occurs above the legal speed limit, would this still be covered under the warranty? ;)

[Bradley G]

The question about TSB is what I suspected, it really does mean "Top Secret Bulletin" for the general public.
The driveshaft vibration is what I thought also. Since this occurs above the legal speed limit, would this still be covered under the warranty? ;)But remember thse shots you take across the desert. yeh that's it in Utah , where there is no speed limit.:bs:

[jcb100]

Brad, what is the TSB# for the steering gear yoke plug problem you list? Or is it the 02-1-6 TSB # you state re: road force. please clarify
Finally, I got more info on steering wheel shake . I still have this problem only tried conventional [4] wheel balance so far . "in some affected vehicles , there may be insufficient torque on the lock ring that secures the steering gear yoke plug. This condition has no affect on steering effort or directional control.Driver symptoms are confined to a rattle and vibration during parking or while driving on rough roads . The other bulletin I found regarding this issue is body mounts {TSB98-1-11}2003 & 2004 cv gm vehicles may exhibit a steering nibble above 44mph .Steering nibble is described as a slight rotational back and forth movement of the steering wheel. tsb for road force balance is 02-1-6 hope this helps I will post my results asap:o

[Bradley G]

Brad, what is the TSB# for the steering gear yoke plug problem you list? Or is it the 02-1-6 TSB # you state re: road force. please clarifysteering gear yoke plug is 04-b13 GMQ, CVIC & Town cr.and MM

[Bradley G]

I posted some incorrect info . I am reposting to clear this up .The wheel shake that I have been plagued by seems to be corrected. This came after Wheel align, one regular 4 wheel balance road force balance, then the TSB on the body mounts (too tight) then another road force balance. Got the car back yesterday maybe because I havent driven in a few days but it seems to be better!! The info I posted about the steering gear yoke plug torque is not concidered a TSB but a Field service action that was limited to certain build dates and production plants. The "oasis" from fords computer will identify if your car has this concern. This is supposed to be done every time you bring your car to F L / M dealership.Sorry for the mis info folks I'm still learning and got excited by frustration of not being able to correct this annoying problem resolved:up:

[Logan]

The roadforce balance fixed my wheel shimmying at high speeds...

[SILVERMARAUDER]

i had a high speed balance done 6k ago on the car and did not really help :( but this week going to get a new set of shoes IE: TIRES FOR THE LAY MAN! on her under warr at 13k :rock: and will see if that helps!

[TAF]

i had a high speed balance done 6k ago on the car and did not really help :( but this week going to get a new set of shoes IE: TIRES FOR THE LAY MAN! on her under warr at 13k :rock: and will see if that helps!
You need to bring that silver back to breakfast on the 19th....

[Bradley G]

i had a high speed balance done 6k ago on the car and did not really help :( but this week going to get a new set of shoes IE: TIRES FOR THE LAY MAN! on her under warr at 13k :rock: and will see if that helps!My SM said it might come to that too !! I have 4k on the car . I have had two road force balances done so far and shake has been drasticaly reduced, but over bumps its still there please post results and how it came to the point of new tires.

[Logan]

It should be noted that I got lucky. My front tires were shaved due to a piss poor alignment. So, just after getting the new tires put on, I took them and had them roadforced...THAT's when it was fixed for me...

[Bradley G]

The MM has a small 1/4 " red dot on the side wall of all four tires . who knows what if anything is this for?:confused:

[jgc61sr2002]

The MM has a small 1/4 " red dot on the side wall of all four tires . who knows what if anything is this for?:confused:


I beleive that dot indicates where to place the balance weight.

[Bradley G]

A frient claimed this is supposed to be lined up opposite the valve stem on the wheel . I looked at another MM on the lot niether tire on the drivers side were lined up that way.I was in a hurry so I couldn't look at the others we have:confused: I looked at cobra mustangs on our lot none had any dot

[Krytin]

A frient claimed this is supposed to be lined up opposite the valve stem on the wheel . I looked at another MM on the lot niether tire on the drivers side were lined up that way.I was in a hurry so I couldn't look at the others we have:confused: I looked at cobra mustangs on our lot none had any dot
I have done this - line up the dot with the valve stem and always used minimal amount of weight. Good luck getting a tire tech to do it!

[Bradley G]

I have done this - line up the dot with the valve stem and always used minimal amount of weight. Good luck getting a tire tech to do it!thanks Krytin I have had several trips to s/m to fix a wheel shake. alignment, then 4 wheel balance regular, 2 road force balances and the dealer performed TSB on the body mounts being too tight. although it seems better ther is still a wheel shake seems to occur more frequently over bumps. If these cars are so sensitive to vibrations. I do have several counter balance weights stuck to the inside of the wheels. I counted 9 counterweights in a row any one else seen this many??

[SILVERMARAUDER]

All 4 tires failed road force previousley so Got the 4 new oe tires installed today and a huge improvement very very very slight shimmy still at 73 and smooth as glass all the way up to 100+ smooth. crusing at 80 just like i like it is excellent not bad deal for the 300 plus i spent for the pro-rated from my oe tires... the backs were at the wear bars :eek: !

[Gagfish]

I know on my other Ford that the actual hub is balanced. One of the lug's tip is colored yellow and that needs to be alligned with the lug opening next to the valve stem. Is there something similar on the Marauder? Do you have 1 wheel lock? Maybe the weight difference in that 1 lug offsets the balance?

[Bradley G]

I know on my other Ford that the actual hub is balanced. One of the lug's tip is colored yellow and that needs to be alligned with the lug opening next to the valve stem. Is there something similar on the Marauder? Do you have 1 wheel lock? Maybe the weight difference in that 1 lug offsets the balance?No wheel locks. I took MM to another tire shop that has a Hunter Road force balance machine .Shimmy still there .I got a call about an hour after dropping the car off at Reber auto in Barrington,( Approved vendor on Tire Racks' list ) Scott says ABS light is on traction control light is on and the red brake light is on bring it to the dealer to have this fixed. I called my SM he said without delay "tell them to switch the wheels and tires back (front to back)I asked him how he knew this . "The dumba$$'s at the other facility did the same thing" (the last time we tried this .) SM said he was going to call B.F. Goodrich to see if they would send two front tires to compare with mine. :alone:

[Bradley G]

Well the dealer has my buggy to solve this vibe thier plan is to loosen the bolts a little more and road force balance the new tires they replacedWell thanks to everyone who helped me solve this issue with MM .HeavyD Rodster Logan and alot of others. The wheelshake was due to Torque settings 0f the steering box the tech sheet states that" 53 inch pounds then back off 1/8 turn to adjust preload" Well all I know is "thanks for the eighth of a turn my wheel shake issue is resolved" I just wanted to up date this The retorquetook care of the feedback shake in the steering wheel over bumps or rough road but on smooth surface 60-70 mph . Road force balance on the new front tires maybe the tickey. I can see the "Look" now when after I called my SM after they serviced it last time told him thanks and that it was fixed:confused: l

[Heavy D.]

That's great news! I'm glad it worked out for you.