Installing Eaton need some help [Archive] - MercuryMarauder.net Forums

BeeDamn

06-09-2016, 01:30 PM

Hello everyone

I want to thank you guys first for helping me doing this install by myself and my brother too

I have some questions about the swap

First I ordered the on3 performance Kit including the rear cooling mod but it seems not fit the rear fitting is wide for the lower intake see the pictures and please tell me did I ordered the right one or not?

myrodr

06-09-2016, 01:52 PM

I don,t know what you have but you may want to get on of Zack's kits for the Eaton swap

Zack

06-09-2016, 01:52 PM

you need my kit

Zack

06-09-2016, 01:54 PM

I've never seen an eaton lower overlap the drivers side like that

RacerX

06-09-2016, 02:10 PM

I've never seen an eaton lower overlap the drivers side like that

That is odd...

BeeDamn

06-09-2016, 02:11 PM

That's the problem! I've been worried about that lower too! Is there any car rather than the cobra that use this kind of lower? Cuz even the Intercooler adapter holes well not fit! I'll take pics soon

BeeDamn

06-09-2016, 02:30 PM

Here are some pics for the lower intake manifold

RacerX

06-09-2016, 02:59 PM

Errr... that looks different than the Eaton lower I have. Even the waffle pattern on the bottom is different.

BeeDamn

06-09-2016, 03:44 PM

Any thoughts guys!!? That's weird what kinda manifold is that!!!!?

8UWITH6

06-09-2016, 07:02 PM

5.4 lower? IDK. That is not correct though!

2mercs

06-10-2016, 02:57 AM

The 5.4 looks way different from what I've seen. Any part numbers on it anywhere?

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BeeDamn

06-10-2016, 03:37 AM

No sir nothing on the manifold :( also the knock sensor is not fitted properly, I had to put another fitting to hook it up!

BeeDamn

06-10-2016, 03:58 AM

While doing a web search, Have anybody heard about "PANOZ ESPERANTE" That's is actually using a DOHC 4.6 supercharge hmmm... that's kinda strange!!

justbob

06-10-2016, 04:02 AM

That is not where the knock sensor goes.

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BeeDamn

06-10-2016, 04:16 AM

That is not where the knock sensor goes.

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Oh realllly !!! then what kinda of sensor is sit down the lower intake hole? the knock sensor sit the same location?

8UWITH6

06-10-2016, 06:13 AM

Stupid question. But do you have the intake slid too far back towards the firewall? Lets see if a picture of the front.

BeeDamn

06-10-2016, 07:46 AM

I think it's fit but I'll try to post a picture soon

RacerX

06-10-2016, 07:49 AM

Mr. Man

06-10-2016, 09:06 AM

While doing a web search, Have anybody heard about "PANOZ ESPERANTE" That's is actually using a DOHC 4.6 supercharge hmmm... that's kinda strange!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panoz_Esperante

BeeDamn

06-10-2016, 11:20 AM

That's not a 5.4l lower and not a typical 03/04 cobra lower. Where did you get that from? The hole where the knock sensor is gets plugged on our setups. The knock sensor can attach to the rear of one of the heads. Have you planned on IAT sensor location for accurate intake temps?

I got if from eBay long ago!
So basically the lower hole on the manifold gets plugged!!? Not to put a pcv hose as I heard!!?

RacerX

06-10-2016, 12:18 PM

I got if from eBay long ago!
So basically the lower hole on the manifold gets plugged!!? Not to put a pcv hose as I heard!!?

It's easier this way or you'll have boost as well as vacuum going through that same port. ;) You'll need your vacuum accessory ports, above the supercharger rotors and one port that will see both vacuum and boost below the rotors for your FRPS and a vacuum/Boost gauge.

BeeDamn

06-10-2016, 01:20 PM

It's easier this way or you'll have boost as well as vacuum going through that same port. ;) You'll need your vacuum accessory ports, above the supercharger rotors and one port that will see both vacuum and boost below the rotors for your FRPS and a vacuum/Boost gauge.

I'm sorry I didn't get it! I thought boost and vacuum are similar!! So for now that lower intake hole need to be plugged!? And the vacuum well be above the supercharger!?

RacerX

06-10-2016, 01:54 PM

So for now that lower intake hole need to be plugged!? And the vacuum well be above the supercharger!?

Yes, here's some pics, etc.:

This is for a 5.4l blower, but, similar
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39 000&d=1405624797

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/blue%20car/IMG_1841.jpg

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62376

BeeDamn

06-10-2016, 02:59 PM

I see thanks a bunch now I get it :)
The real problem is the lower intake is totally wrong it well not fit the eaton bolts!!!!
OMG I have to buy another one :(

MOTOWN

06-10-2016, 03:21 PM

What is the part number on the lower intake you have?

justbob

06-10-2016, 03:53 PM

There is one on here for sale CHEAP.

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BeeDamn

06-10-2016, 04:05 PM

No part N.O Roger :(
Thanks Bob I saw that but no $$$ for now :(

BeeDamn

06-10-2016, 06:22 PM

What about the bypass actuator Valve lines? The black two lines that is highlighted in the pic? Where to connect it please?

RacerX

06-10-2016, 07:21 PM

The top nipple will be connected to your boost/vacuum line. Same as FRPS and boost/vacuum gauge. The bottom one is left open to the air.

guspech750

06-10-2016, 07:41 PM

Damn that's a weird lower. Well if all the bolt holes line and and intakes. Perhaps grind the aluminum away if there is enough meat.

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Turbov6Bryan

06-10-2016, 07:47 PM

Well that is made for a ford 4.6 DOHC 2003-2007, just not USA version

Oh, what blower does that PANOZ ESPERANTE take? Possible bigger eaton blower off a jaguar??????????

The plot thickens........,,,

BeeDamn

06-11-2016, 02:27 AM

The top nipple will be connected to your boost/vacuum line. Same as FRPS and boost/vacuum gauge. The bottom one is left open to the air.

Thanks, now the image is clear

Damn that's a weird lower. Well if all the bolt holes line and and intakes. Perhaps grind the aluminum away if there is enough meat.

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Problem is the Eaton screws is way too far you cannot even drill it :dunno: !!

Well that is made for a ford 4.6 DOHC 2003-2007, just not USA version

Oh, what blower does that PANOZ ESPERANTE take? Possible bigger eaton blower off a jaguar??????????

The plot thickens........,,,

As for wiki it's the same cobra engine with an Eaton, But who knows what is going down the engine !!!

justbob

06-11-2016, 12:54 PM

Any chance that's a Tork Tech for a 2V? I read that before '06 they used a different version of the 112 before going Cobra style.

Edit: nope, I checked.

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BeeDamn

06-12-2016, 12:22 PM

Guys I already orderd a COT delete kit from On3Performance and a rear cooling mod.
I'm just asking is it a direct fit for the cobra lower intake?
The rear fitting is just as the size as the freeze plugs! So do I need to trim the lower manifold? or it's no way to fit?

ChiTownMaraud3r

06-12-2016, 01:20 PM

I would buy the correct lower first.

BeeDamn

06-12-2016, 05:07 PM

I would buy the correct lower first.

Ohuch :bigcry: of course I well but I want to make sure if the COT from On3performance well work or not?

Zack

06-12-2016, 05:32 PM

The cot delete will work.

Turbov6Bryan

06-12-2016, 06:55 PM

Ohuch :bigcry: of course I well but I want to make sure if the COT from On3performance well work or not?

If you order it today, you might get it in 3 months

8uwith6 dealt with them on this, never got his stuff

Ended up welding the stock COT

Ourobos

06-13-2016, 06:48 AM

http://moddedmarauders.net/showthread.php?406-Eaton-Swap-PCV-Routing

Write up on your PCV port

BeeDamn

06-13-2016, 11:13 AM

The problem is that I already have the COT delete and the cooling mod. My doubt about the cooling mod I'm afraid it well not work with the eaton :(

http://moddedmarauders.net/showthread.php?406-Eaton-Swap-PCV-Routing

Write up on your PCV port

Thanks alot of this useful post thank you really sir I approtiate it

Poodie_strong

06-14-2016, 02:43 PM

you need my kit

Do you have the kit for sale?

BeeDamn

07-31-2016, 11:53 PM

Yes Finally the correct lower intake received, BUT !!! DO I HAVE TO TRIM THE KNOCK SENSOR :( it well not clear down there !! any thought

Zack

08-01-2016, 05:18 AM

Yes Finally the correct lower intake received, BUT !!! DO I HAVE TO TRIM THE KNOCK SENSOR :( it well not clear down there !! any thought

Both bosses have to be ground down significantly.

RacerX

08-01-2016, 10:43 AM

Both bosses have to be ground down significantly.

Have a machine shop do that along with any block work, etc. then they can run it through the parts washer. I did my own.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/742/medium/Knock_sensors.JPG
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/742/medium/Knock_sensors2.JPG

ChiTownMaraud3r

08-01-2016, 01:54 PM

The problem is that I already have the COT delete and the cooling mod. My doubt about the cooling mod I'm afraid it well not work with the eaton :(

Thanks alot of this useful post thank you really sir I approtiate it

How you managed to acquire the ON3 kit, especially in your location is beyond me. Absolutely terrible customer service. Getting them to answer the phone to place an order was like pulling teeth. I ended up scoring one from a member who thought it was too much "bling. "

8UWITH6

08-01-2016, 08:19 PM

Have a machine shop do that along with any block work, etc. then they can run it through the parts washer. I did my own.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/742/medium/Knock_sensors.JPG
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/742/medium/Knock_sensors2.JPG

Use a grinder wheel. Cover any open parts to the engine. Blow off debris with compressed air. Move on to the next step. All you are doing is making clearance for the lower intake.

BeeDamn

08-01-2016, 08:44 PM

Oh my that's a lot grinding !! I grind it down using a Dremel !! I asked because I didn't see it in the Eaton swap Thread !! Strangely the old wrong one fit just fine :(

Anyway thanks guys for the clarification :)

How you managed to acquire the ON3 kit, especially in your location is beyond me. Absolutely terrible customer service. Getting them to answer the phone to place an order was like pulling teeth. I ended up scoring one from a member who thought it was too much "bling. "

Well as you said that's was a PITA !!! I cut it and mod it with some pipes i'll post pic soon ! What a waste of $$$ on that on3 kit :(

RacerX

08-02-2016, 08:09 AM

Screw the Dremel. I used a 10,000 rpm angle grinder with a cutoff wheel. It took less than two minutes. After all block work was done, I washed every inch with warm, soapy water, rinsed, dried and wiped the cylinders with ATF.

justbob

08-02-2016, 02:17 PM

Grinder here as well.

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MyBlackBeasts

08-02-2016, 07:33 PM

Hey Eaton guys, will a Trilogy install manual help him at all? I can email the pdf to him if it will.

MyBlackBeasts

08-02-2016, 07:38 PM

Here is what I did with my knock sensor.

Hope the info helps. If not, carry on & have fun!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82065

8UWITH6

08-02-2016, 07:54 PM

Mounted my knock sensors on the back of the head towards the firewall. 1st unused threaded boss I could find. Knock sensors turned off anyway in most tunes..............

loud2004marquis

08-03-2016, 03:19 AM

Trilogy install manual helped me with my install.

BeeDamn

08-03-2016, 05:32 AM

Only two min by using a grinder machine !!!? Man i wish i have one ! Thanks guys for the clarification

Thank you Mr MyBlackBeasts i already have the pdf printed but i thought i didn't need it for eaton.
You thread is very useful that's a nice idea thanks

BeeDamn

08-03-2016, 05:35 AM

Here's a picture of my moded cooling mod.
I cut the on3 fitting and instal a ss pipe with some strong glue.

Zack

08-03-2016, 05:43 AM

Strong Glue?
LMAO

tell us exactly what you used.

RacerX

08-03-2016, 05:53 AM

Strong Glue?
LMAO

tell us exactly what you used.

It looks more like grey silicone than JB Weld... :confused:

BeeDamn

08-03-2016, 06:58 AM

Lol sorry for the bad tirm ! I think it's called belzona

blkZooM

08-04-2016, 05:48 AM

How you managed to acquire the ON3 kit, especially in your location is beyond me. Absolutely terrible customer service. Getting them to answer the phone to place an order was like pulling teeth. I ended up scoring one from a member who thought it was too much "bling. "

I called once got in touch and got it in like four days? Maybe bad luck on your end

Trilogy install manual helped me with my install.

Your pictures helped me out tremendously, when it came to doing the vacuum lines! Thanks for taking them.'

BeeDamn

08-18-2016, 04:01 PM

Guys, About the supercharger and the lower intake bolts, Do I have to purchase THESE (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-2004-03-04-FORD-MUSTANG-COBRA-SUPERCHARGER-TO-LOWER-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-BOLTS-/131907517574?hash=item1eb64cfc 86:g:bo4AAOSwRQlXezZZ&vxp=mtr) or just I have to buy a regular bolts with the correct size!!?

8UWITH6

08-18-2016, 07:22 PM

Re use your factory lower intake bolts. I bought correct size and length for the blower to intake.

BeeDamn

08-20-2016, 07:50 AM

Re use your factory lower intake bolts. I bought correct size and length for the blower to intake.

Thank you sir that's probably what I'll do

BeeDamn

08-20-2016, 11:35 AM

Here are some pictures of my progress

You can see the frozen boost type 101 is really hard to instal also i put the IC resvior and the pump in the driver side as I'll move the battery to the trunk

If you guys have any suggestions or things better to do please tell me :)

justbob

08-20-2016, 08:49 PM

Odd that you put the pump and reservoir on the drivers side? I take it you no longer have air ride?

Also never seen anyone take the entire bumper off to mount that lil heat exchanger! Your making hard on yourself LOL

Now finish up already! [emoji4]

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justbob

08-20-2016, 08:51 PM

And clean up your work area! [emoji12]

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8UWITH6

08-21-2016, 07:00 AM

Bob, not everyone can do Eaton swaps in days ;)

BeeDamn

08-23-2016, 04:40 PM

Haaaaa thanks bob for your input but the bumper has been taken off before for paint work so i don't bother returning it

I'm a shift worker it's really hard to find a spare time to finish it earler lol

BeeDamn

09-17-2016, 11:55 AM

Turbov6Bryan

09-17-2016, 12:43 PM

Where do you have your brake booster hose connected?

Pics here

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1514693#post1 514693

BeeDamn

09-17-2016, 01:08 PM

I connect it to N.O 2 in the pic attach and i hope it's corrwct! But what about the other lines?
Your link sir is redirecting me to the same page :(

justbob

09-17-2016, 01:14 PM

IIRC #2 is used for the PCV system. 1 or 3 can feed the booster, the other one feeds the manifold on the fire wall.

It's been awhile for me though..

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Turbov6Bryan

09-17-2016, 01:20 PM

I connect it to N.O 2 in the pic attach and i hope it's corrwct! But what about the other lines?
Your link sir is redirecting me to the same page :(

Same page? As in this thread you started? I may have goofed

Here is the one with pics.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99728&page=2

guspech750

09-17-2016, 07:18 PM

Guys I want to ask about the vacuum and boost lines in the eaton and I'm kinda confuse which one to connect right! Also the bypass actuator has two lines which one to connect to?

In the previous post racerx explained it well but i didn't quite understand it!

Please see the attachment I already mark it and numbering it for Easley explanation

Thanks

I have (#2/vacuum) connected to my drivers side PCV. (#3/boost) I have connected to only the FRPS on the fuel rail. (#1/vacuum) I have connected to the other vacuum stuff. My brake vacuum hose is connected to the intake elbow.

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BeeDamn

09-18-2016, 06:51 AM

Then what about the bypass actuator?

guspech750

09-18-2016, 06:59 AM

Then what about the bypass actuator?

Sorry. Forgot.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160918/d6e5ec8c5e2b7d050c010f44ab3003 cd.jpg

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