View Full Version : Anyone run their book value lately?
a_d_a_m
11-02-2016, 04:07 PM
Once in a while I'll check the book values on my cars. I just ran the Marauder and was somewhat surprised at the results.
Mind you, this is for a 'good' condition 130k Marauder. Figure mine ranks that way with a
Edmunds: $4452 (trade $3830)
KBB: $5197 (trade $4342)
NADA: $6575 (trade $3625)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If I was inclined to sell it before, I'm certainly not now. The car is worth more than that to me.
daddyusmaximus
11-02-2016, 04:29 PM
Wow. I got ripped off. lol I paid almost 7 grand for mine with 112K miles.
Then again, I'm happy as hell with it so those books can go to hell. Didn't realize how undervalued these things are. My Marauder is comfy, fast, good handling, and gets 25mpg on the highway if I stay off the gas. I'm glad I never pay attention to resale value arguments. I pay what I think it's worth, and don't worry about changing anything from original. A lot of people buy a car as an investment, I just buy if I like it.
KBB trade-in range = $4,266 to $6,243 Good condition, 2004 with 134,000 miles.
Trade in = $5,255.
Private party = $6,111
And that's without considering any modifications such as S/C, stall converter, 4:10's, nitrous, pedals, stereo up grades and Mo's tune.
My asking price with all things considered is $3,426,743,87.
Cheers,
Jtrip
11-02-2016, 04:54 PM
Good time to buy. All cars hit a bottom and I don't think they can go any lower.
RubberCtyRauder
11-02-2016, 05:06 PM
i dont think they are low. i bought my 2nd one when prices were low, about 3 years ago, and got a deal.
a_d_a_m
11-02-2016, 05:43 PM
Mind you, this is for a 'good' condition 130k Marauder. Figure mine ranks that way with a ...apparently I hit 'submit' before proofreading.
Whatever. :D
CoreyM75
11-02-2016, 06:06 PM
I just did kbb.com for my 2004 DTR with 69,000 miles. The value they gave surprised me, it was way higher than I thought it would be.
Excellent: 11,765
Very good: 11,167
Good: 10,213
Fair: 9,527
I rated my car as between Good and Very Good, but I'm very critical of my cars flaws so it could be higher than where I put it.
RF Overlord
11-02-2016, 06:19 PM
My asking price with all things considered is $3,426,743,87.Pat, I'll give you $8.00 for it... :D
BAD MERC
11-02-2016, 06:42 PM
Wow. Private party $7,423, Trade in $6,653, Not too good for a 45K mile rare vehicle.
Spectragod
11-02-2016, 07:18 PM
WOW!!!! KBB says mines worth $16,203.............
chief455
11-02-2016, 07:43 PM
Every time I look at the 'book', no money comes out.
Value is exactly what the buyer pays you at time of sale.
CoreyM75
11-02-2016, 10:23 PM
WOW!!!! KBB says mines worth $16,203.............
Would you take a post dated check?
william s
11-03-2016, 03:42 AM
My wife just totaled my 2003 300a. I bought it new and it had 85000 miles. State Farm gave me $13,000 for it. Not bad but I would never have sold it for that.
bugsyc
11-03-2016, 04:02 AM
KBB: 03 95000 miles to private party...
Fair:6185
Good:6756
Very Good:7538
Excellent:8017
2,4shofast
11-03-2016, 06:18 AM
I figure I have more money in paint that what it is worth at this point, Ill just keep driving the $h1t out of it :burnout:
Bondfreak13
11-03-2016, 06:37 AM
Dealers Don't give you KBB or NADA. They give you Black Book Value. Which is what the car will get at auction. Working at a Ford dealer for 3 year taught me one thing for sure, the dealer NEVER loses. Even when you think you won, you didn't.
Jtrip
11-03-2016, 07:05 AM
Dealers Don't give you KBB or NADA. They give you Black Book Value. Which is what the car will get at auction. Working at a Ford dealer for 3 year taught me one thing for sure, the dealer NEVER loses. Even when you think you won, you didn't.
I agree. Kind of like the house at a casino.
sailsmen
11-03-2016, 07:33 AM
Dealers Don't give you KBB or NADA. They give you Black Book Value. Which is what the car will get at auction. Working at a Ford dealer for 3 year taught me one thing for sure, the dealer NEVER loses. Even when you think you won, you didn't.
How does the Dealer know what the car will get at auction?
All the auctions I have been to the prices vary dramatically because the value is based on a limited number of people for a very short period of time.
Dealers Don't give you KBB or NADA. They give you Black Book Value. Which is what the car will get at auction. Working at a Ford dealer for 3 year taught me one thing for sure, the dealer NEVER loses. Even when you think you won, you didn't.
While I agree in general, I'm not sure you can say NEVER.
When we bought my wife's Expedition for $3,900 the sales manager told me they paid $4,500 for it, and I have no reason to believe he was just trying to make me feel good. Based on the vehicle and the conversation, they lost money on that one.
That being said, I have no doubt they made up that $600 loss on someone else.
RubberCtyRauder
11-03-2016, 08:14 AM
The Black Book is the only value guide issued weekly instead of monthly, reflecting the latest prices direct from actual or online automobile dealers. They also include CPI...Cars of Particular Interest..I don't see how it is related to auction..auction is wholesale prices, sure, they may try it as a starting point, but anyone savvy will just say no. But in all and all, a dealer isn't going to lose money on a trade in most cases...it will be made up on one end or another..maybe they give retail value of a car on trade, but they don't tell the buyer the manufacturer has a dealer incentive of $2k on the car they just bought..
ChiTownMaraud3r
11-03-2016, 09:09 AM
Wow mine's worth $25k according to my own brain's guide.
Spectragod
11-03-2016, 09:11 AM
Mines worth 35k based on an offer that I took a pass on.
bugsyc
11-03-2016, 10:50 AM
Pre inspection value range...2935-4350..
1Marauder
11-03-2016, 12:46 PM
I figure I have more money in paint that what it is worth at this point, Ill just keep driving the $h1t out of it :burnout:
Yea... but your paint is bad ass.....
2,4shofast
11-04-2016, 10:13 AM
Yea... but your paint is bad ass.....
Thanks brother!:beer:
Black&Gifted
11-04-2016, 11:24 AM
Wow mine's worth $25k according to my own brain's guide.
Quote of the day!
Black&Gifted
11-04-2016, 03:09 PM
Ultimately, those sites don't have a true market adjustment for limited production cars like the marauders because their values don't reflect current asking prices for these cars.
If you walked up to a seller that has a clean titled marauder with 100k on it and told him you'd give him $6k, he'd laugh at you. If you say that is what KBB says its worth, he may pee himself laughing so hard.
If you look at auto-trader, etc., at the current marauders for sale, the asking prices are no where near what KBB/NADA says they are.
And prices vary between the sites. I checked what they say mine is worth (2003 with 16k on it):
KBB: $11.3k for private sale
NADA: $8k retail.
autotrader: 2 offered at $18k with 30k-40k on the clock...that is a far cry from KBB/NADA values
jwibbity
11-04-2016, 03:23 PM
USAA valued my car at 8200 bucks with 115K on the clock. I don't know if the took into account the supercharger and everything but I did get excellent conditions across the board.
Don't know if insurance companies use these sites to determine total loss payout.....???
jsignorelli
11-04-2016, 04:14 PM
The real value of a car is in the joy you get from ownership. If "book" value alone was used, there would be almost nobody collecting cars. You buy something you dreamed or fantasized about. Money is usually not an issue when fulfilling a fantasy.
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