Your thoughts?

[Bizz]

I am about to pull the trigger on an 03 Marauder. It has a new engine with 2000 miles on it as well as a new Tear end and. Re A/C. The only original part is the trans. I have all service paperwork and this car has been taken care of. All it needs is a paint job and it's a new car. The engine has a 3 year 100k warranty on it and I met with the mechanic who has done all the work. 15k into the car but she is selling it to me for 8k because she just wants to sell it. Great deal?

[Bizz]

I forgot to mention it's a Jasper Engine.

[The_Dude]

You don't mention the miles, or how bad the paint is.

[RF Overlord]

If the car had been "taken care of", why did it need a new engine and rear end?

[Turbov6Bryan]

8 grand AND needs a paint job? Ouch!

Just because they have 15 grand into it, that doesn't make it worth 8k


You mentioned with a new paint job, it'll be a new car since it has a new engine and a rebuilt rear end

Don't forget it's a 14 year old car with 14 year old worn out parts surrounding the engine and rear

Sounds like a $5,000.00 car. A decent paint job is 5k and up

Have you looked at other marauders and their prices?

It doesn't sound like a deal at all

[Bizz]

The car was her husbands and he died so his tennage boys were driving it. They blew the engine and rear end so she had it all replaced. The paint is bad on the roof and bumpers but hey it's 13 years old. The car drives perfect with no noises I don't want and I have every service record. When she replaced the engine and rear end she didn't let them touch it again. She wants the car to go to someone who will take care of it. But why I really want to know is your thoughts on the Jasper engine. I've read that they improved upon some of the things that plagued the oem engine.

[Turbov6Bryan]

The car was her husbands and he died so his tennage boys were driving it. They blew the engine and rear end so she had it all replaced. The paint is bad on the roof and bumpers but hey it's 13 years old. The car drives perfect with no noises I don't want and I have every service record. When she replaced the engine and rear end she didn't let them touch it again. She wants the car to go to someone who will take care of it. But why I really want to know is your thoughts on the Jasper engine. I've read that they improved upon some of the things that plagued the oem engine.

It's just a reman motor
Cheapest way they can build it, that's how they do it

Improvements over OEM? Highly doubtful

How many miles are on this driveway kept teenager beat to crap 14 year old beast?

[Bizz]

73000 miles and 2 on the engine and rear end.

[Bizz]

I have to say I have never heard of a 5K paint job unless it's show quality. I got a quote for an oem quality paint job for 1400.00

[The_Dude]

Show quality paint is more like $15k. $1400 is Maaco territory.

[The_Dude]

It doesn't sound like a deal, but it doesn't really sound overpriced either.

[RubberCtyRauder]

$1400 for a two stage base coat clear coat? paint and supplies have gone up $ considerably. A reputable paint job with body work, prep work, etc. is easily $5k on the low side. scratch and squirt job, under $2k but it will show and prolly wont last thru sun, uv, elements. its your decision, but you get what you pay for. There is a 29,000 mile 2003 at Nick Abrahm Ford in Elyria, OH for $12,995 ,has wrong rims, but is a far better deal if it checks inside and under the hood

[Ambitious1]

8 grand AND needs a paint job? Ouch!

Just because they have 15 grand into it, that doesn't make it worth 8k


You mentioned with a new paint job, it'll be a new car since it has a new engine and a rebuilt rear end

Don't forget it's a 14 year old car with 14 year old worn out parts surrounding the engine and rear

Sounds like a $5,000.00 car. A decent paint job is 5k and up

Have you looked at other marauders and their prices?

It doesn't sound like a deal at all


+1 on this.

This sounds like a $5K car. There's no guarantee that the engine and rear end was properly rebuilt and how long it will last. You may end up doing some additional work or paying extra if it wasn't done right the first time. This car has had alot work done to it. If you plan to drive as a daily without bringing it up to spec is one thing. But, if you are planning on painting it and getting other things done, you may be looking at putting another $5K to $7500 in this car. That's $13K or more over the long run.

[Turbov6Bryan]

I have to say I have never heard of a 5K paint job unless it's show quality. I got a quote for an oem quality paint job for 1400.00

We are just trying to help, most of our suggestions come with experience behind what we speak of

Oem repaint for 1400.00 LMAO. Who is blowing smoke up where!?? Lol

Just a quart of paint and supplies to do my grille, bumper and hood were over 400.00


If your serious about buying one, buy one that doesn't need work... you might find one for the same price

I picked up a 70k silver that only needed coils and tires, has 15k in mods, and is damn near mint car.... for 8k down in Miramar last February It also has a vortec supercharger on it. Drove it home 1600 miles

Yours, needing work is not that great of a deal

[justbob]

$1,400 OEM paint? Someone's been sniffing the fumes..

The LOWEST price I've been quoted is $6,000 with the highest so far being $12..

In my book there is no such thing as "show car paint". There is quality work or there is **** work period.

As for the car, I'd look over the receipt to see what parts where used in the rear because that would finish telling me the amount of care that went into fixing up this car. If all Ford (or better) parts, then I'd be more inclined to purchase and save up for some paint work down the road. Maybe you can get by with a blend job and buff out the rest?

Why I say finish telling me about the amount of care is the engine. Jasper has been well known for doing shotty work and using junk mass produced relabeled six times around parts.. The warranty does nothing for me as labor to remove and install plus down time isn't covered IF they honor the warranty and don't try to play the blame game.

$8,000 for a clean 77,000 car isn't out of hand IMO. But I would be looking it over very meticulously..


Sent from my iThrone using Tapatalk

[martyo]

I have to say I have never heard of a 5K paint job unless it's show quality. I got a quote for an oem quality paint job for 1400.00

If someone says they can paint your Marauder for $1,400, I wouldn't let them paint my fence.

[Black&Gifted]

I picked up a 70k silver that only needed coils and tires, has 15k in mods, and is damn near mint car.... for 8k down in Miramar last February It also has a vortec supercharger on it. Drove it home 1600 miles




That's a steal and not something that comes up often.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Black&Gifted]

Is the car being referred to in this thread the same one from the classifieds (haven't double checked yet).

Ultimately, it doesn't sound like a "deal" but not a ripoff either.

And another vote here on the cost of a quality paint job. They're not cheap and you get what you pay for.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Bizz]

Well I ended up turning it down for now. I told her if it were 5500 I could do it. At that price I could put some money into it and make it perfect. These cars are so rare and I had just quit looking and it just popped up. Literally the only thing on the car that isn't new is the trans itself. This was meant to be a project car anyway so if she will go 5500 I think I would be missing out. If it's meant to be then it will be I suppose. Thank you for the advice! It's much appreciated

[03blackvegas]

I have to say I have never heard of a 5K paint job unless it's show quality. I got a quote for an oem quality paint job for 1400.00

In a pig's eye, it's OEM.

[1Marauder]

Bugsy (SP) just sold a repainted near perfect 1 owner from new 93,000 mile car for 6,200 on here and eBay, and I dang near bought it because it was perfect...

I understand the appeal, but am not sure this is a deal that pans out.

Even if (and IF is the right word) you could find a great take it all of and put it all back on paint job for $3,000, you would still have over $11,000 into a kid thrashed repainted rebuilt car.

Like others above, not being harsh or critical, just discerning.

For $10,000 you can find a very nice one owner car with near same mileage.

[1Marauder]

That's a steal and not something that comes up often.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hell, that is just NOT fair...

[Bizz]

So if I can pick it up for 5500-6000 would you say it's a good deal? I just think she will come back and offer it for that. And I'm not willing to go out of state which is why this looked so good to me. 45 min away

[RubberCtyRauder]

It's ultimately up to you and your decision, however what is your plans fo rthe car? daily driver, extra "fun" car, weekend car? We always like seeing a Maraduer saved, just gave our thoughts on it based on the quick info you shared. If there is time, post up picks of it, under the hood, inside , the paint issues,etc. A lot of the members here have "been there, done that" so their statements are more than just an opinion. MOst paint estimates aren't worth diddly without them seeing the car, paint problems already present. $5500 or so may seem like a deal until you have to put another $5500 into it. With perfect paint, a Jasper engine Marauder is not worth $11k.

[Black&Gifted]

I believe this is the car:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100867

[The_Dude]

So if I can pick it up for 5500-6000 would you say it's a good deal? I just think she will come back and offer it for that. And I'm not willing to go out of state which is why this looked so good to me. 45 min away

I think that would be a good deal. If it's the car in the above link, the paint looks pretty good in the pictures provided.

[Turbov6Bryan]

I think that would be a good deal. If it's the car in the above link, the paint looks pretty good in the pictures provided.

There is no shine on the front bumper, look at the pics...

It's sun baked from not being garaged

[The_Dude]

There is no shine on the front bumper, look at the pics...

It's sun baked from not being garaged

Still, if he can get it for $6k, I don't think he's doing too badly.

[justbob]

That wiring by the battery is whack..

So the car has been for sale on here, EBay, and Craigslist since March. That should tell you all about the interest from others.

There has never been a price for these cars since brand new and there never will be. It's worth what the buyer pays.

For the sake of my own car I hope it sells for a premium LOL


Sent from my iThrone using Tapatalk

[Spectragod]

:bs:
That wiring by the battery is whack..

So the car has been for sale on here, EBay, and Craigslist since March. That should tell you all about the interest from others.

There has never been a price for these cars since brand new and there never will be. It's worth what the buyer pays.

For the sake of my own car I hope it sells for a premium LOL


Sent from my iThrone using Tapatalk

You and me both, probably going to sell mine in spring, hoping I can get eight bucks for it, unless I can talk Jerry into trading me his yo-yo collection for it.🙄

[Bizz]

I believe this is the car:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100867

Yes this is the car. I kinda felt like this car was meant to be because I wasn't looking for it when I found it but I can only do what I can financially and I wanted to do right by the car because of the sentimental value it has to the owner.

[1Marauder]

Best deal you never made!!!

RUN!

Wait for another 1 owner clean car with 90,000 miles... And buy it well!

[JustRight]

The car was her husbands and he died so his tennage boys were driving it. They blew the engine and rear end so she had it all replaced. The paint is bad on the roof and bumpers but hey it's 13 years old. The car drives perfect with no noises I don't want and I have every service record. When she replaced the engine and rear end she didn't let them touch it again. She wants the car to go to someone who will take care of it. But what I really want to know is your thoughts on the Jasper engine. I've read that they improved upon some of the things that plagued the oem engine.


"Teenage boys were driving it." Red Flag #1


"She wants the car to go to someone who will take care of it." Red Flag #2


Trust me, fifteen minutes after the car leaves the driveway she will never think about that car again except to rejoice about it being gone.

Mechanical work is subjective-----does the mechanic know what he's doing or even care about what he does? A really, really good mechanic is a rare as sasquatch. I've known ASE certified master mechanics that I wouldn't let work on my ex-mother-in-laws's lawnmower.

This car might best be bought by the above average home mechanic if gotten for an extremely low price. Clean car fax and $4500 or less. Best of luck. :santa:

[Danger Cart]

"Teenage boys were driving it." Red Flag #1


"She wants the car to go to someone who will take care of it." Red Flag #2


Trust me, fifteen minutes after the car leaves the driveway she will never think about that car again except to rejoice about it being gone.


BINGO.

Also... who put those 2000 miles on the engine & rear end? Was it really her, or was it her brats that beat it to death in the first place? What about the transmission (O/D & WOT shifting...)?

I've been down that path before & from personal experience, parents will lie, cheat, & swindle to cover their kids & to get them out of a bad spot. This includes vehicles as well.

If the body & frame are clean, I'd look at $3000. I wouldn't be sold on the new motor/new diff with 2k miles line.

Sent from my SM-S902L using Tapatalk

[Gerry24]

These guys are on point... Don't do it!