Tired of waiting, need help.

[Roger D]

I've had a Chrysler 300c ordered for months - still no word on when its arriving and I do need the transportation. Therefore, I'm at the point of cancelling and ordering a Marauder - if I can mod it to a similar or superior performance.

Including the purchase price - can I:

Stroke it to 302 cu/in.;
Install headers & cat back:
4.10 gears;
Shift kit;
Port & polish the heads;
better brakes; and
Custom tuning - for $40,000 +/-?

Goal would be somewhere north of 325 lb/ft of torque at the rear wheels.

Thanks,

Roger D

[BillyGman]

Roger, welcome to the board. You've cpme to the right place. I have no financial interests in thisntopic nor in any topic on here. So what I'm about to say to you is simply my advice to you, and is a result of lessons that I've learned through modifying my Marauder.......

Forget about bringing the engine displacement to a mere 302 cubes/5.0L. You'll spend a lot of $$ only to be still wanting more. Spend 6K on one modification, and you'll be completely satisfied, and your Marauder will be 12 second car that will be completely tame and manageable on the street, while at the same time will blopw away any 300C or any other daily driver you'll find on the street unless it was also modified considerably.
And the modification I'm sleaking of is the Trilogy Supercharger kit. It will give the car more than enough low-end torque as well as mid-range AND top end power. Much more than the 300C has. Your car will have the torque and acceleration of a car that has a big block engine under the hood.

You'll spend less $$ than you would w/your plan of attack, while at the same time the engine will produce more power than it would if you do what you've mentioned instead. Look at my signatire at the bottom of my post. If I had everything to do over, I would've installed the Trilogy S/Cer kit FIRST, and probably the only other mod I would've added later on would be the Kooks exhaust package simply because I Luv the way it sounds.

I've been to the Dyno before and after the Trilogy kit installation, and that one mod alone added over 100 HP to the car, and that isn't even taken at the engine, but at the rear wheels after the drivetrain has absorbed about 20%. The modifications that you're contemplating will NOT do that, and will cost you more $$ than the Trilogy S/Cer kit will.

[Marauderman]

WOW--Are you gonna be surpised--You can get that and more for less than what you were thinking----

First off--there are several MMs here on the board that are for sale and some have been modded already--

Secondly--you can buy newMM for around 28K out the door at alot of places and mod up for about a grand to alot more fun than you can imiagine...there are of course further mods as you describe --

...and yet that will still be alot lower than what you were thinking and the car will smoke that 300 all the time....do a search on here or look thru the forums as mentioned above in the for sale area....am sure alot more folks will chim in as they return from the holidays --stay tuned..the MM is your best buy for sure!!!

[Logan]

What Billy said.

Buy Marauder for about $28k (Easy to do), buy a $6k supercharger kit from Trilogy or Reinhart (Depending on your Roots/Centrifugal preference).

Just bolting either of these kits on a bone stock marauder will get you a 13.0 second car with factory-like manners in all respect. The 12 second quarters Billy is referring to requires gear & exhaust modifications to be realistic.

[Smokie]

I've had a Chrysler 300c ordered for months - still no word on when its arriving and I do need the transportation. Therefore, I'm at the point of cancelling and ordering a Marauder - if I can mod it to a similar or superior performance.

Including the purchase price - can I:

Stroke it to 302 cu/in.;
Install headers & cat back:
4.10 gears;
Shift kit;
Port & polish the heads;
better brakes; and
Custom tuning - for $40,000 +/-?

Goal would be somewhere north of 325 lb/ft of torque at the rear wheels.

Thanks,

Roger DBrand new Marauder $28,000
S/C installed $7000-$7500
RWHP= 450 RWTQ= 420
1/4 mile mid to high 12's.

Total Spent: Less than $36,000
Spend the rest on Brakes, Exhaust, Tranny.
$40, 0000 give or take a nickel.

[BillyGman]

in 80+ degree weather, yes, low 13's . In 70 degress or colder, high 12's w/nothing else added to the S/cer as long as you get some better rubber on the back than the stock tires so they give you better traction off the line.

But the main point is increasing HP by more than 100 w/just that one modification, and that's ofcourse regardless of what tires you use.

[jgc61sr2002]

Roger - Welcome to the MM site. :up: You already have some good advice. Buy the Marauder and you won't be sorry. Good luck. :)

[MARAUDER S/C #5]

I agree with BillyGman, but also plan on getting some widened rims and fatter tires. :burnout: GOOD LUCK !

[BillyGman]

I agree with BillyGman, but also plan on getting some widened rims and fatter tires. :burnout: GOOD LUCK !
Yep, that's what I did, but it isn't even mandatory. it's a matterof preference. Even though I have the widened rims and the Nitto P305 drag radials sitting in my garage and ready to go, I still haven't had them mounted on the car yet, and so for the last 1800 miles that I've put on my Marauder since the S/Cer installation, I've used the street tires. It's still a blast to drive this car even w/the street tires on the back.

I've also spoken to 2 other Marauder owners who have had the Trilogy S/Cer installed on their cars, who have also decided to stay w/the factory stock tires, and they luv it. So the bigger and softer rubber in the back would be a plus, yes, but it isn't mandatory for obtaining a serious performance increase by the addition of a Supercharger.:up:

[Roger D]

Thank you gentlemen! - I had no idea- high 12's w/o opening up the engine.

Will the stock crank, springs, cooling, tranny and rearend (or anything else) need to be upgaded?

I'll be calling the Mercury Dealers in CT tom.

Once again - thanks - this is going to be fun.

Roger D

[BillyGman]

Thank you gentlemen! - I had no idea- high 12's w/o opening up the engine.

Will the stock crank, springs, cooling, tranny and rearend (or anything else) need to be upgaded?

I'll be calling the Mercury Dealers in CT tom.

Once again - thanks - this is going to be fun.

Roger DHey! U didn't say you were from CT. Well whata ya know? That's where it says that I'm from at the top of my posts! If you want, we can meet some place, and I can give you a ride in my Supercharged Marauder, and I'll even let you drive it. That's how confident I am that you'll love the way this car moves when it's equipped w/a S/Cer. I did the same for Dan who is also a member of this board, and who also lives in CT.

Don't be shy about taking me up on my offer Roger. As far as the durabilty issue goes,(the need for forged engine internals such as a steel crank, and forged rods & pistons) that was the same concern I had originally, and therefore I was dead set against ever S/Cing this car since it's my daily driver, and is now my ONLY driver.

However, I began doing my homework on this whole S/Cing thing for a street car. And I dug up a lot of info. After the smoke cleared from my furious quest for info on this topic, I came to the conclusion that this is a good way to go w/these cars. I won't get into it all in this post, but just to let you know, John (aka "Jet") on this board had his Trilogy kit installed when his Marauder had 32K on it's clock, and last I talked to him, he had 43-44K on it. He puts a lot of miles of daily driving on it back & forth to work, and he also takes it racing at the track a couple times per year(I originally met him at the track in Englishtown, NJ) and so far he hasn't had any problems. Bill Bowker (the former "Marauderer") also has several thousand miles on his Marauder since the Trilogy installation, and w/out problems. then there's Dave (aka "MI2QWK4U") who also has the Trilogy kit, and has put on atleast several thousand miles on his car since the Trilogy kit installation, and w/out any engine problems. Then there's "Marauder S/C #5", "LOGAN" and the list goes on and on. I can name more on this board, but I think you get the picture.

And that's what also changed my mind about this modification. These S/Cer kits are made specifically for the 03 and 04 Marauder, and last I heard, someone just told me that Trilogy has sold 42 of these Marauder specific S/Cer kits already since last year. I was #24. My car had 11K on it when I installed the Trilogy kit, and now it's a hundred and fifty miles shy of 13K. And the first 04 Marauder that I know of was kit #23(also sold to a member of this board). The Trilogy #1 car owned by the company itself has well over 30K on it's clock since the Trilogy installation, and bazillion members of this board have told me that they have had rides in it, and have also put a pounding on it while being behind the wheel themselves, and the car has also been seen by various members of this board on the track while blasting through 1/4 mile runs, and Trilogy Motorsports claims are that they haven't had any engine problems with it, nor have they modified the engine internals.

But the real impressive thing for me is that I've spoken to 4 of their customers over the phone, as well as to one of them in person, and all of them have told me that they've had NO engine problems so far. Sorry for the length of this post, but I'm just so impressed by this Modification, that I tend to be pretty intense about it. I hope that I've helped you out in some way. But either way Tom, it's your choice, and I for one welcome you to this board regardelss of what you decide. I sincerely mean that. I can tell you more specifics about S/Cing, but I guess I'd better stop this here.

[Roger D]

BillyGMan:


Thanks for the info and your kind offer. I'm down in Fairfield Cnty - work in NYC. Obviously, before the mods get bought, I must first find a new car. Any recommendations on dealers worth a visit.

Some posts suggest a new (?) Maruader can be bought for about $28,000(that sounds really low - I was thinking $6k or more higher), -if thats so, a modded Maruader is a sure thing.


Regards,

Roger D

[MARAUDER S/C #5]

Thank you gentlemen! - I had no idea- high 12's w/o opening up the engine.

Will the stock crank, springs, cooling, tranny and rearend (or anything else) need to be upgaded?

I'll be calling the Mercury Dealers in CT tom.

Once again - thanks - this is going to be fun.

Roger D
You are doing the right thing. :up:

[BillyGman]

Okay Roger, first off, make sure you checkout the PM ("private Message") I sent you. As for the Marauders that might be around, I dunno. You'll have to get out the phone books to begin calling.

But here's a start:

http://www.mercuryvehicles.com/apps/locatedealer/dealerholder.asp

here's more......

http://www.mercuryvehicles.com/apps/locatedealer/DealerHolder.asp


and also......

http://www.mercuryvehicles.com/apps/locatedealer/DealerHolder.asp

[Logan]

Billy...Just how much time do you spend on this site anyway? ;)

[BillyGman]

Billy...Just how much time do you spend on this site anyway? ;)more than you my friend.:shot:


I had a lot of time on my hands yesterday, and the day before.Ya Can't keep up, uh? I just like to help out my fellow Marauder owners, cuz a lotta people on this board have helped me, and I also like to put back into a board what I got out of it. What a great car this is. Uh?

[RCSignals]

Rodger D also check the cars for sale forum here. There are some pretty good deals on low milage Marauders if you don't mind not having dealer new

[TAF]

Billy...Just how much time do you spend on this site anyway? ;)

more than you my friend.:shot:


I had a lot of time on my hands yesterday, and the day before.Ya Can't keep up, uh? I just like to help out my fellow Marauder owners, cuz a lotta people on this board have helped me, and I also like to put back into a board what I got out of it. What a great car this is. Uh?
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[Ross]

Roger, welcome to the family. With your budget and some sound advice from some of the more experienced modders on this board, you will have a car that will blow the doors off of almost anything on the road. Can't wait to hear about you getting your car and what you are doing to it. :beer: