Metco Control Arms NOW available in Black Powdercoat!!!

[TAF]

Here's the thread...
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10465

And the pic...

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/watermark.php?file=503/83Metco_Black_Powdercoated_Con trol_Arms.jpg (http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/showphoto.php/photo/3377/password/263233a0dd0b5fe0053e90d33d4b6b a0/sort/1/cat/503)

[2003 MIB]

I hate you Todd... You are making really hard to keep this promise to Coli:

"I, Dan Fielding do hereby swear not to spend any more money on Marauder mods until after the wedding." :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

[TAF]

I hate you Todd... You are making really hard to keep this promise to Coli:

"I, Dan Fielding do hereby swear not to spend any more money on Marauder mods until after the wedding." :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:Hey, if THIS ^^^ is the only promise you don't keep while being happily married...then she should feel good about it ;)

"Yes dear...I promise to put out the garbage..."
"Yes dear, you don't look fat in those jeans...I promise!"
"Yes dear, I promise I'll not go to the Marauder meet, but will go to that flower exhibit you wanted me to go to..."

[2003 MIB]

Hey, if THIS ^^^ is the only promise you don't keep while being happily married...then she should feel good about it ;)


Hmmm, I embrace your philosophy and would like to subscribe to your internet newsletter... :up:

[dwasson]

Wouldn't they look cool in red?

[Petrograde]

Where's my Ford Blue? :mad2:

[RVT04]

I hate you Todd... You are making really hard to keep this promise to Coli:

"I, Dan Fielding do hereby swear not to spend any more money on Marauder mods until after the wedding." :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
hey bro, you can always move the date up on the calendar! just a thought-
sorry bout that Coli us guys gotta stick together-uh support each other-uh help out when we can-uh ... the more i try to get it said the worse it sounds oh yeah sit down and shut up.
got it now :rolleyes:

[TAF]

Where's my Ford Blue? :mad2:
Tell them you want a set that's not anodized sent, and use your local source, Tom.

They (Metco) wanted to limit the colors...otherwise...ya know...Marty would be ordering those pink ones...:nono:

[Fourth Horseman]

Nice look, but I want mine shiny. Bling bling! :pimp:

[Petrograde]

Tell them you want a set that's not anodized sent, and use your local source, Tom.

hmmm,.. I wonder if the powder coating oven will screw up the bushings?

[TAF]

hmmm,.. I wonder if the powder coating oven will screw up the bushings?
Good point. Just call Aaron, and see how he can work this out for ya. He's a good guy and will do what he can. :up:

[RCSignals]

There's always rustoleum

[TAF]

The UPS man just came...pics don't do these ANY favors...like black, molten glass!
http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/watermark.php?file=500/83control_arms_black_1.jpg (http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/showphoto.php/photo/3404/password/263233a0dd0b5fe0053e90d33d4b6b a0/sort/1/cat/last1)

[John F. Russo]

hmmm,.. I wonder if the powder coating oven will screw up the bushings?


I'm ready to buy control arms in blackpowder coat to give me added corrosion protection against potential stress cracking from salted roads in the winter. I drive my car year around.

I know they are anodized but edge effects can occur and covering the edges will essentially eliminate corrosion around the sharp edges.

What did you find out when you called Aaron as suggested by TAF?

[SergntMac]

I'm ready to buy control arms in blackpowder coat to give me added corrosion protection against potential stress cracking from salted roads in the winter. I drive my car year around. I know they are anodized but edge effects can occur and covering the edges will essentially eliminate corrosion around the sharp edges. What did you find out when you called Aaron as suggested by TAF?
I think I understand what your asking, John, and I'm willing to bet you that you will be driving another car long before road salt threatens control arms of any material. I am likewise willing to bet anyone else here too, because I expect most of us (and our MMs), to be long gone before errosion from road salt is a problem for us. Whether (haha...weather?) you install Metco control arms (aluminum), or, the Z/M control arms (steel), road salt will eventually claim it's victims.

Nonetheless, if y'all are concerned about this, go with steel based control arms, because steel will outlive aluminum in a road salt hostile evironment. Meanwhile, no loss in performance to us between aluminum or steel, nor how this mod functions and improves our control of the MM. Either way, you will get maximum performance from a rear control arm upgrade.

John, you mention powdercoating as a superlative against deterioration, but IMHO, it's just hard paint.

Impervious to many low level threats, yes. Easy to clean and maintain a fresh appearance, again yes. But, many solvents now common on the market defeat powdercoating. Any application of "off the shelf" Simple Green will mar powdercoating before you're aware, therefore, powdercoat will succumb to road salt too, and sooner than you think, without preventive cleaning.

All in all considered, John, you're right on this topic and honestly right I might add. It really doesn't matter what you cover aluminum, or, steel with. Once that protective coating is violated, the road salt will win...Eventually. Once that happens, aluminum will subcum to errosion before steel, it's a fact.

It's also a moot point, IMHO, because by the time road salt errosion weakens our control arms, we won't have any wheels to drive on, let alone gasoline to pump...

[TAF]

Here John...I'll just answer your question directly since the button-police are on duty.

There are no black Metco Control arms available anymore. Only 2 cars will have these, Marty's and one other lucky person who ordered black. Everyone else wanted the clear annodized.

[SergntMac]

Here John...I'll just answer your question directly since the button-police are on duty.

There are no black Metco Control arms available anymore. Only 2 cars will have these, Marty's and one other lucky person who ordered black. Everyone else wanted the clear annodized. Yes, John, I'm sorry but TAF is correct with his 411 here. The steel you want isn't available anymore, so, go with the alternative aluminum you can get right now. You'll be okay, powdercoating stuff aside, and you don't have to check your PMs either, the 411 is all right here for everyone to read.

[TAF]

TAF...I can name this here tune in less than two paragraphs, thank you, and that name is "you didn't read my post." What do I win?
Actually...you win nothing...which is appropriate, 'cause you didn't read my post.

The thread was about Metco's powdercoated black control arms....and powdercoating Metco's control arms. Whether there are any others available/no longer available I could care less, and I wasn't addressing this in my response. Perhaps you should have seen my other response before one of your loyal fans deleted it...it would have given you a clearer picture.

[TAF]

Nonetheless, if y'all are concerned about this, go with steel based control arms, because steel will outlive aluminum in a road salt hostile evironment. ..........

[TripleTransAm]

Nonetheless, if y'all are concerned about this, go with steel based control arms, because steel will outlive aluminum in a road salt hostile evironment.


I'm going to have to keep a close eye on this. The rate at which my MM's underbody is showing corrosion, I'm wondering what it's going to look like after it's first winter (yup, it hasn't seen one winter in the salt yet, and still manages to look more surface-corroded than even my 17-year-old GTA which has seen a handful of salty slushy drives for various reasons). In the near future, I'll be visiting my dealer soon to address the groaning hood, shuddering TCC, and premature tire wear... I'll make it a point to have them document the condition of the underbody before it sees any road salt.

The reason your comment alarms me is because I highly doubt my 1985 Parisienne's control arms were aluminum, and one side rusted through in 1998 after some 110 000 miles of all-weather driving. Granted, the car was garaged pretty much every winter, which I'm sure did not help the corrosion resistance, but still...
So if steel is supposed to outlast aluminum, what's in store for my Marauder, come a few years from now?

[Joe Walsh]

I'm not sure I get all the corrosion concern(s).....Have you compared the super thin OEM stamped steel control arms to the VERY STOUT Metco Aluminum control arms?? I wouldn't worry too much about the Metco arms corroding away any time soon. If you are that worried about it, just give your control arms a good soap/suds wash every 3-4 months to negate the road salts effects.

[SergntMac]

Actually...you win nothing...which is appropriate, 'cause you didn't read my post. The thread was about Metco's powdercoated black control arms....and powdercoating Metco's control arms. Whether there are any others available/no longer available I could care less, and I wasn't addressing this in my response. Perhaps you should have seen my other response before one of your loyal fans deleted it...it would have given you a clearer picture.
No, TAF, this thread was given new life by John H, Russo, who innocently asked about metal content and and protective coating. I replied to his question with nothing more added in favor or against Metco, Z/M, aluminum or steel, other than what I know to be truth about metal and surface treatments.

That said, I suggest his thread be closed, I knew it would be a boiling point when I noted it's renewal.

John, you're a bad boy now, shame on you. You must have known better, your education says so. Why have you asked all this scientific stuff in these channels, when you know many of us don't get that?

[Bigdogjim]

Well it fun while it lasted:)

I will take sides on this or any issues on the site. (good info just read it!)

I belive it is up to the person looking for answers to read the reply and go from their:)

Enjoy this website for what it is.

Ahella of great place!:up:

[TAF]

No, TAF, this thread was given new life by John H, Russo, who innocently asked about metal content and and protective coating. I replied to his question with nothing more added in favor or against Metco, Z/M, aluminum or steel, other than what I know to be truth about metal and surface treatments.Have a cup of coffee and read Johns post again...he said:


I'm ready to buy control arms in blackpowder coat to give me added corrosion protection against potential stress cracking from salted roads in the winter. I drive my car year around.

I know they are anodized but edge effects can occur and covering the edges will essentially eliminate corrosion around the sharp edges.

What did you find out when you called Aaron as suggested by TAF?To spell it out for you while you sip your black coffee...John was asking Tom (Petrograde) if he got a response from Aaron as to a question Tom had ('cause he (Tom) wanted BLUE powdercoated Metco Control arms after he sold his other control arms on ebay) and Tom wanted to know in an earlier post if he could powdercoat them himself WITH the bushings in and what affect that powdercoating might have on the bushings. John seemed to be wondering out loud whether there were any "protective properties" to the powdercoated ones vs. the annodized as to "added corrosion protection against potential stress cracking from salted roads in the winter. I drive my car year around. I know they are anodized but edge effects can occur and covering the edges will essentially eliminate corrosion around the sharp edges."
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YOU responded with...

Nonetheless, if y'all are concerned about this, go with steel based control arms, because steel will outlive aluminum in a road salt hostile evironment.Which is a completely false statement which had NOTHING to do with his question. His question concerned the powdercoating...NOT the type of metal used in the control arms.


Hopefully the above will enlighten you...
Last edited by MM03MOK : 09-14-2004 at 10:06 PM. Reason: Feel free to enlighten us, TAF.

and Mary!

[Logan]

Congratulations, 7 day account closure's for ALL involved. Accounts will automatically re-open at this time next week.

I'm done warning people. I ask, I ask, I ask, I beg, I beg, I beg, I plead, I plead, I plead and yet you BOTH continually disrespect me, my request to cease hostilities and ignore forum rules to the point where I'll call you both a couple of *******s for wasting MY time with your damned incessant bickering.

The ONLY reason you both weren't banned AGES ago is because I happen to personally like BOTH of you. However, my patience and courtesy only extends so far and has been WHOLELY abused.

If you CAN'T figure the HELL out how to be civil on mm.net, you're simply no longer welcome. I've completely had it. No one is worth THIS much of my damned good will and this much of my time. If you can figure out how to be civil, then you're absolutely welcome on this site.

Next time, accounts are permanently closed. Keep your damn dick swinging off my site.

I don't have time for this childish CRAP. Don't even think about sending me a note, email or otherwise, I just don't want to hear it, in fact, I don't want to hear anything, I just want you both to bloody shut up and act your age for crying out loud.

For the record, I REALLY don't appreciate folks bagging on the admins volunteering and working their asses off to help ME out. They've as much pull as I do and have my FULL confidence. If any of them decide to extend bans or make them permanent, I support that decision too.

Folks, I just don't have the time to deal with everyone one on one, if you're going to make yourselves an issue, then expect to be removed, I will not cater to anyone's perceived value in this community. Be nice or be gone, simple as that.