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Merc390
11-14-2017, 11:34 AM
I know there are a bunch of guys from Illiniois here, so my question to yall is who have you used and liked to trust with engine work. Im a werido and would like a Ford guy to work on my motor. I need to call PER but Id like to have back ups if needed.
The Plan is to bore and stroke the Teksid I have to 5.0, Forge the bottom end, and port polish the heads.
So Any engine builder suggestions are welcomed.
Kyle
I know there are a bunch of guys from Illiniois here, so my question to yall is who have you used and liked to trust with engine work. Im a werido and would like a Ford guy to work on my motor. I need to call PER but Id like to have back ups if needed.
The Plan is to bore and stroke the Teksid I have to 5.0, Forge the bottom end, and port polish the heads.
So Any engine builder suggestions are welcomed.
Kyle
FYI any head work does not become beneficial unless: You plan on a radical NA build. Or: you are making north of 800rwhp with boost
justbob
11-14-2017, 01:54 PM
http://www.builtriteengine.com
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Merc390
11-14-2017, 03:04 PM
http://www.builtriteengine.com
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Ive heard good and bad stories about them, have you used them personally? It would be ultra convenient for me to use them as Im a couple minutes away.
Merc390
11-14-2017, 03:11 PM
FYI any head work does not become beneficial unless: You plan on a radical NA build. Or: you are making north of 800rwhp with boost
Even if boost and hotter cams are used?
stevengerard
11-14-2017, 03:22 PM
The lead engineer of the engine at Marauderville (11 maybe?) said the heads are the last thing you need to modify. Won't get much out of them until you have done absolutely everything else to the max. 800 RWHP is close to around !000 at the crank, correct? That's a lot of HP, a lot of boost and a lot of other things to work on before you worry about the heads.
Merc390
11-14-2017, 03:29 PM
I thought get it done when its in the shop to not worry about it, especailly since I have this extra set of heads and the Teskid block.
RubberCtyRauder
11-14-2017, 03:40 PM
what is your goal for power and use? porting these heads is not cheap. you have to decide whereto spend ut at..Boost plans, transmission plans, brakes etc. ?
justbob
11-14-2017, 03:43 PM
Ive heard good and bad stories about them, have you used them personally? It would be ultra convenient for me to use them as Im a couple minutes away.
They did my heads three or so years ago and took really good care of me.
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MOTOWN
11-14-2017, 04:03 PM
Your wasting your money stroking to 5.0L nothing to be gained but a lighter wallet , a forged 4.6L will do anything you need it to do HP wise.
mm svt
11-14-2017, 04:10 PM
If you want your heads ported then have them ported. If you want cams, get cams. If you want arp everything and be conservative on hp don’t worry about what others think it’s your car and your money. The head job you may not notice but but if you decide to go Turbo you can. Stroked crank and a 20 overbore will get your 5.0, from there it’s what ever you want for your teksid block.
stevengerard
11-14-2017, 04:34 PM
^ good point, I like the others are just trying to provide practical information.
Merc390
11-14-2017, 05:27 PM
Well the block I have needs work on the cylinder walls that’s the only reason why it’ll be bored over, the Heads thing again was a uncertainty.
My main goal at this point is to find a shop I’m comfortable with and that members in the Chicagoland area have either used and are happy with or can recommend me to. I do collision repair so I have everything except the mechanical thing down. My power goal is around 550 to the wheels..
Any knowledge and opinions are fine by me, my thought is a Whipple set up with 10 to 12lb of boost should get me to where I’d like
Merc390
11-14-2017, 05:30 PM
They did my heads three or so years ago and took really good care of me.
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Did you deal with Bill?
I’ll drop by him tomorrow to get ideas. May I ask what he charged you for the work?
RubberCtyRauder
11-14-2017, 06:06 PM
550 is plenty doable, i almost went that route, didnt want to spend to R&R motor, so i ported my trilogy and did killer chiller with lower pulley swap. You will want plan or,add into the mix a trans upgrade or swap. stock transsl will be short-lived with torquey twin screw.
justbob
11-14-2017, 06:08 PM
Did you deal with Bill?
I’ll drop by him tomorrow to get ideas. May I ask what he charged you for the work?
Sorry, I can’t recall the main guys name but I pretty much talked to everyone while I checked out their shop.
$450 plus another hundred for oversizing the exhaust valves and installing all my new stainless stuff and HD springs.
No porting.
I forgot to add the spacers behind the cam gears and drove it all the way to Rockford, Dyno tuned, and running around doing errands all in one day. I got two miles from home when the intake cam locked up solid.. I forced it home shooting raw fuel out the drivers tail pipe, tore it down the next morning, and took it back to them with five bent valves.
He charged me $10 for lunch and had it ready in 30 minutes! I drove it to the Louisville meet a day and a half later.
You can’t get better service than that!
He’ll probably remember my car. He said it sounded like war when I brought it by after it was fixed. [emoji16]
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Merc390
11-14-2017, 07:50 PM
550 is plenty doable, i almost went that route, didnt want to spend to R&R motor, so i ported my trilogy and did killer chiller with lower pulley swap. You will want plan or,add into the mix a trans upgrade or swap. stock transsl will be short-lived with torquey twin screw.
Oh yeah I’ve already rebuilt my rearend and the trans is next. The trans in it has 180k in it and is in need of help big time
Merc390
11-14-2017, 07:51 PM
Sorry, I can’t recall the main guys name but I pretty much talked to everyone while I checked out their shop.
$450 plus another hundred for oversizing the exhaust valves and installing all my new stainless stuff and HD springs.
No porting.
I forgot to add the spacers behind the cam gears and drove it all the way to Rockford, Dyno tuned, and running around doing errands all in one day. I got two miles from home when the intake cam locked up solid.. I forced it home shooting raw fuel out the drivers tail pipe, tore it down the next morning, and took it back to them with five bent valves.
He charged me $10 for lunch and had it ready in 30 minutes! I drove it to the Louisville meet a day and a half later.
You can’t get better service than that!
He’ll probably remember my car. He said it sounded like war when I brought it by after it was fixed. [emoji16]
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Not to sound like a creep but I’d love to meet up and check out your Merc some time.
mm svt
11-14-2017, 07:56 PM
Not to sound like a creep but I’d love to meet up and check out your Merc some time.
Spoiler alert- it’s a stick
Spectragod
11-14-2017, 08:10 PM
Not to sound like a creep but I’d love to meet up and check out your Merc some time.
Bob likes creepy men, he has a 4 way hinge on his gate. ;) :D
Spectragod
11-14-2017, 08:12 PM
built trans will be short-lived with torquey twin screw.
***FIXED***, you will always find the weakest link, just add boost.
justbob
11-14-2017, 08:55 PM
Not to sound like a creep but I’d love to meet up and check out your Merc some time.
Check the year end get together thread. Or whenever you want as I may or may not drive it to the meet.
It’s boring slow right now anyways.
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justbob
11-14-2017, 08:55 PM
Bob likes creepy men, he has a 4 way hinge on his gate. ;) :D
So? [emoji43]
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RubberCtyRauder
11-14-2017, 10:02 PM
So? [emoji43]
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just4waybob
RubberCtyRauder
11-14-2017, 10:03 PM
***FIXED***, you will always find the weakest link, just add boost.
that might be a DTR thing :D
Spectragod
11-15-2017, 04:33 AM
that might be a DTR thing :D
That’s good to hear, I thought it was my 6 way hinge.....
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NorthShoreChiMM
11-15-2017, 07:47 AM
Bring the marauder bob, please
Bradley G
11-16-2017, 10:35 AM
I went with Coil racing engines in McHenry.
Steve Coil has been doing race motors for
Over 30 years in the same town.
He and his shop have a wonderful reputation and I would go to him again.
He prolly still has my head's on the shelf
Somewhere.
I shoot give him a call !
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