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Rosco26
01-02-2018, 04:26 AM
Hey guys I’m new to the MM
I have had my first 03 with 53k on for a few months now.
Car runs like a bear and all stock, I love it. It does need paint and I have scheduled it to be painted but I have not dropped it off yet. So I’m super confident in the paint shop but looking at $6000 done right. Then I found another 03 MM trilogy number 165 ( I believe, not sure how anyone can tell) some may have seen on jersey CL or ebay, under 60k on it. I bought it, had it shipped , the owner seemed honest but miss led me. I guess I should have slowed my roll and took some time to make sure the car was what I was led to believe it was. Anyway the car looks good to the eye from what I can see ( it was on open trailer and the weather has been snowing so had to tell exactly what’s going on with the exterior) I believe it has had some paint work, some interior work, audio work and the car is running like ****. I put the scanner on it and it’s running 2 transmission codes but the car feels like it skipping. The engine sound good and the transmission seemed to shift good for the less than 1 mile drive I took it on.
I was going to sell my original 53k MM and keep the new one for obvious reasons, now I’m thinking to keep and paint my original and swap the trilogy.
I wasn’t sure if there is a matching number type of history from car to super charger and if it would effect
What do you guys think or suggest?
Thanks in advance
Curless
01-02-2018, 06:55 AM
The supercharger units themselves are numbered, They were never numbered to a specific car until they were installed. If you are worried about value don't... nobody cares what car the blower came from or if it had one originally...
sailsmen
01-02-2018, 08:13 AM
If your whole care does not need painting just paint the panels that do.
The horizontal panels wear first. I had my horizontal panels painted for a very reasonable amount and the car looks awesome!
https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1545747#post1 545747
Good Luck.
Turbov6Bryan
01-02-2018, 08:22 AM
First on the current trilogy car, buy new ford coils and ngk spark plugs, maybe fill us in on what tuner box you have, and who did the tune.
It might be a miss and not the transmission.
What are you asking for the car that needs paint? $$$$?????
crownvic97
01-02-2018, 08:47 AM
I would decide which car is the most solid (least amount of rust, least amount of body work needed) and commit to that one. Like someone else mentioned, the Trilogy number refers to the blower not the car it’s attached to, so swapping will not alter value.
On another note, that really sucks that car was not as advertised, I hate when people try to pull fast ones.
Good luck with your choice!
Svashtar
01-02-2018, 12:28 PM
Damn, all I can say is I need to find an ‘03 with low miles like these! I guess they are out there after all. For now it makes sense to fix all the little things wrong with mine at 115K and keep it.
It does suck the Trilogy seller didn’t tell you about the issues with it; hope you get it squared away.
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justbob
01-02-2018, 03:02 PM
Back when Motorcitymarauders website was up there was a list of Trilogy numbers and their owners. Too bad it’s now gone as that would have helped with the history of the car.
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the fat bastid
01-02-2018, 04:07 PM
If your whole care does not need painting just paint the panels that do.
The horizontal panels wear first. I had my horizontal panels painted for a very reasonable amount and the car looks awesome!
Yeah, I get one panel painted every year. Just apart of the normal maintenance now.
Turbov6Bryan
01-02-2018, 04:37 PM
Back when Motorcitymarauders website was up there was a list of Trilogy numbers and their owners. Too bad it’s now gone as that would have helped with the history of the car.
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I just noticed the clock still works on that site...
https://web.archive.org/web/20041127044336/http://www.motorcitymarauders.com/
TrilogyMarauder
01-02-2018, 04:49 PM
Back when Motorcitymarauders website was up there was a list of Trilogy numbers and their owners. Too bad it’s now gone as that would have helped with the history of the car.
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Found this.................
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi98-n2urrYAhVB4YMKHdR0DjkQFgg_MAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmercurymarau der.net%2Fforums%2Fshowthread. php%3Ft%3D40455%26highlight%3D trilogy%2Bcars&usg=AOvVaw3ir10ogjuO0LoWtlHRJQ fQ
Here is a list of Marauders w/ Trilogy Superchargers.
Trilogy Car #
01. Jerry Barnes (Prototype) WORLDS FASTEST MARAUDER
02. MI2QWK4U
03. drwhy (formerly Nathan)
04. Bob Mathis
05. Natehawk (formerly Menace)
07. Jerry Barnes - SEMA car with body kit
08. JET
09. mrogerc
11. Virgil Woodward
12. Tom Leonard
13. Lotusstv (new owner?)
15. Buckwheat
21. Brsmerc
22. CourtMarshal
23. Mike's Merc
24. Drewstang (formerly Zack) (formerly BillyGman)
33. Zack (formerly Deebar)
34. MarauderMike
35. Roger D
36. South Hills
45. Butch Handy
47. JoeB
48. FiveO
54. Tallboy
55. MMSuperfan
56. 04Mema
58. Red Ryder (formerly Tech Heavy)
61. Bunny / RF Overlord
64. Cobra25
65. Fat Bastid
66. Jeff03
67. Defyant
69. Robomac (formerly King Fubar)
71. Carfixer
73. Bigslim
75. Sweetair
78. Sherm
79. Rick-n-Miami
80. Txmarauder
81. Wsmylie
83. Smokie
84. Blackf0rk
85. VikingMM
86. YRUSLO
87. John R.
90. DEW34
92. Mongo
93. Bradley G
95. Jasonblair
97. PRIMEAU
98. Jdando
100. MaLo03
101. Drdt340
102. Black Shadow
103. Cheeseheadbob
104. Shakes 26
105. AzMarauder
108. BADMERC
109. Lastdaze04
110. Hotrauder
111. Jim Geary
112. Breadfan
114. North Carolina customer
115. Texas Customer
116. Illinois Customer
117. Badger
118. Bill from Gainesville, Virginia (not on MCM, but welcome anyway)
119. Rindinclean
120. Bobby Clobber
121. Rider90
122: customer in Illinois
123: customer in Trois Riviers, Quebec, Canada
124: Glenn
125: Bond229
126: ghost03
127: Bootlegger
128: customer in OH
129: customer in WI
130: customer in IL
131: White Knuckles
132: Rich Long
133: Fast4Door
134: CDRUSNR
135: Customer in GA
136: Phantom1 - Colorado
137: blackscmarauder
140: Merc
145: Marauderboi
146: GpFarrell
147: Peter Gregos (formerly Zack)
148. EATON #1
149. EATON #2
150. BruteForce
151. Sam F.
152. Merc-O-matic
154. Gary B.
155. Duncan S.
156. Al P.
157. Robert D
159: Dave Compson
160: Shami02
TrilogyMarauder
01-02-2018, 05:13 PM
Damn, all I can say is I need to find an ‘03 with low miles like these! I guess they are out there after all. For now it makes sense to fix all the little things wrong with mine at 115K and keep it.
It does suck the Trilogy seller didn’t tell you about the issues with it; hope you get it squared away.
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I've got one with just under 25,000 miles with Trilogy and no issues for $27,500. ;)
Rosco26
01-03-2018, 02:06 AM
I had the car towed down to the shop today to see wth was going on. They found no compression on cylinder 7 and around 110 in the other cylinder on that side of the block, the other side of the block was normal. They also discovered that the block was a remanufactured.
Looks like I’m in the market for a new motor.
The seller seems to be willing to help but only time will tell.
Wow this sucks!!
I had the car towed down to the shop today to see wth was going on. They found no compression on cylinder 7 and around 110 in the other cylinder on that side of the block, the other side of the block was normal. They also discovered that the block was a remanufactured.
Looks like I’m in the market for a new motor.
The seller seems to be willing to help but only time will tell.
Wow this sucks!!
Dropped Valve seats most likely. A bore scope will rule out a piston problem
mm svt
01-03-2018, 07:00 AM
What causes the valve seat to drop? I’m thinking heat but would like to know how this occurs.
RubberCtyRauder
01-03-2018, 07:06 AM
What causes the valve seat to drop? I’m thinking heat but would like to know how this occurs.
There is a poor coolant passage on head at cyl.7, 8..coolant can pool instead of flow so it gets hot. Head cooling mod is cheap insurance. It can happen to s/c cars or stockers. dohc mustang guys can have same issue
Svashtar
01-03-2018, 11:09 AM
I've got one with just under 25,000 miles with Trilogy and no issues for $27,500. ;)
I know, I spotted that one a while back, great deal, but I don’t think that would fly here in the People’s Republic. ;-)
Gccch
01-12-2018, 06:07 AM
I've got one with just under 25,000 miles with Trilogy and no issues for $27,500. ;)
Seriously? You’re selling?
blownsob
01-12-2018, 10:00 AM
There is a poor coolant passage on head at cyl.7, 8..coolant can pool instead of flow so it gets hot. Head cooling mod is cheap insurance. It can happen to s/c cars or stockers. dohc mustang guys can have same issue
This was a huge thing on the 03/04 cobras. Ford revised the head and fixed the 03 cobras that were brought in with the issue but I don’t know whether they sent notice out or not. When I began my cobra search I hunted for a 2004 partly because of this issue only to find out that the revised part and the 04s could still have the same problem.
Head cooling mod is definitely worth the investment but it doesn’t guarantee it won’t happen, just reduces the chances.
Lastly, I’m new to marauders but have you checked to see if your issue is a simple belt slip? The blower belts slip pretty easily even on stock boost. A nice belt and aftermarket idler pulley setup will help a ton.
RubberCtyRauder
01-12-2018, 10:14 AM
This was a huge thing on the 03/04 cobras. Ford revised the head and fixed the 03 cobras that were brought in with the issue but I don’t know whether they sent notice out or not. When I began my cobra search I hunted for a 2004 partly because of this issue only to find out that the revised part and the 04s could still have the same problem.
Head cooling mod is definitely worth the investment but it doesn’t guarantee it won’t happen, just reduces the chances.
Lastly, I’m new to marauders but have you checked to see if your issue is a simple belt slip? The blower belts slip pretty easily even on stock boost. A nice belt and aftermarket idler pulley setup will help a ton.
Trilogy blower marauders are not known to have alot of belt slip. upgrading the stock tensioner is a good upgrade. i have a 2.8 upper, 4 lb lower, no belt slip here .
MMBLUE
01-12-2018, 11:46 AM
Seriously? You’re selling?
I think he's just saying that he was fortunate enough to get his from you for $xxxxxx
Gccch
01-12-2018, 12:01 PM
I think he's just saying that he was fortunate enough to get his from you for $xxxxxx
He was! Haha... it’s a great car!
TrilogyMarauder
01-12-2018, 05:55 PM
Seriously? You’re selling?
I think he's just saying that he was fortunate enough to get his from you for $xxxxxx
He was! Haha... it’s a great car!
It is a pristine Marauder with Trilogy and low low miles but if someone wants it for $27,500 I would let it go. Only because I see a Hellcat in my future. :burn:
blownsob
01-12-2018, 08:38 PM
Dropped Valve seats most likely. A bore scope will rule out a piston problem
Wow, I somehow missed the whole no compression comment... definitely not blower belt slip.
Sorry to hear, hopefully everything gets worked out.
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Spectragod
01-13-2018, 08:07 AM
It is a pristine Marauder with Trilogy and low low miles but if someone wants it for $27,500 I would let it go. Only because I see a Hellcat in my future. :burn:
I like hellcats too, as does my Marauder.....:D
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