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rumble
06-09-2004, 07:51 PM
As production of the Marauder comes to an end and Marauderville II looms on the horizon, some things
from Marauderville I seem to be worth remembering.
While their were many memorable moments in Ennis, the stand out had to be, for me anyway, the presence of Steve Babcock the project manager for the Marauder.
He spent a good hour+ talking about the project and answering all our questions. For my part it was like Moses receiving the tablets with the ten commandments. He really gave us an inside look at the planning and development of the Marauder from sometime in 1996 when he was put in charge of the Panther platform division and he told FMC management that he wanted to build an "Impala fighter."
He relayed to us that the original plans were for a 4.6 SOHC supercharged powerplant, however the engineers came to him and said that the engine wouldn't hold those cylinder pressures. "Of course" he said "we found out later that was wrong, they would easily do so." He told us that the car was slated to sell for $29,995 but when presented to the dealers they immediately said the price should be $35,000. Now you know why it's overpriced by 5 grand. He explained how expensive the wheels were to make and also why they were
forged rather than go with cheaper ones. The look, he said, had to be just right. When asked by yours truly
why we ended up with a 3.55 gear ratio he explained that they wanted a 3.90 or maybe even a 4.10 but along
came gas guzzler concerns. He related how they drove the car with both 3.27's and the 3.55's and how
much better the 3.55's performed. He further explained the "drive shaft question." The metal matrix shaft
was so expensive and hard to make that the outside company that produced them for FMC got tired of replacing the machine tools and just quit making em. He told us why 03 was to be the first year of the Marauder and why 04 had to be the last. 03 was when FMC was going to rack and pinion steering so they didn't want to start in 02 and then redesign the car after only one year. 04 would be the last year because in Jan of 05 new emissions laws go into effect and the panther platform, as part of the redesign for compliance, would go to a "drive by wire" set up that would not fit the 32 DOHC without extensive and expensive development. They were black because, well, because black is just a bad azz color.
Oh yes, also he was gracious enough to sign several fuse box covers and my owners manual.
I don't know if Steve Babcock will be at Marauderville II, I won't be, but if he is, you will find him a totally
down to earth car guy just like us.
Every body have a great time.
Gary

Bradley G
06-09-2004, 08:00 PM
That would be a big bonus!!

Fourth Horseman
06-09-2004, 08:16 PM
I hope he makes it to MVII. I'd like a chance to shake his hand and thank him for the help he gave me in getting my parts problem resolved last year.

MM03MOK
06-09-2004, 08:32 PM
I don't know if Steve Babcock will be at Marauderville II, I won't be, but if he is, you will find him a totally down to earth car guy just like us.
You'll all just have to come to find out!! :up:

2003 MIB
06-10-2004, 05:01 AM
As production of the Marauder comes to an end and Marauderville II looms on the horizon, some things
from Marauderville I seem to be worth remembering.
While their were many memorable moments in Ennis, the stand out had to be, for me anyway, the presence of Steve Babcock the project manager for the Marauder.
He spent a good hour+ talking about the project and answering all our questions. For my part it was like Moses receiving the tablets with the ten commandments. He really gave us an inside look at the planning and development of the Marauder from sometime in 1996 when he was put in charge of the Panther platform division and he told FMC management that he wanted to build an "Impala fighter."
He relayed to us that the original plans were for a 4.6 SOHC supercharged powerplant, however the engineers came to him and said that the engine wouldn't hold those cylinder pressures. "Of course" he said "we found out later that was wrong, they would easily do so." He told us that the car was slated to sell for $29,995 but when presented to the dealers they immediately said the price should be $35,000. Now you know why it's overpriced by 5 grand. He explained how expensive the wheels were to make and also why they were
forged rather than go with cheaper ones. The look, he said, had to be just right. When asked by yours truly
why we ended up with a 3.55 gear ratio he explained that they wanted a 3.90 or maybe even a 4.10 but along
came gas guzzler concerns. He related how they drove the car with both 3.27's and the 3.55's and how
much better the 3.55's performed. He further explained the "drive shaft question." The metal matrix shaft
was so expensive and hard to make that the outside company that produced them for FMC got tired of replacing the machine tools and just quit making em. He told us why 03 was to be the first year of the Marauder and why 04 had to be the last. 03 was when FMC was going to rack and pinion steering so they didn't want to start in 02 and then redesign the car after only one year. 04 would be the last year because in Jan of 05 new emissions laws go into effect and the panther platform, as part of the redesign for compliance, would go to a "drive by wire" set up that would not fit the 32 DOHC without extensive and expensive development. They were black because, well, because black is just a bad azz color.
Oh yes, also he was gracious enough to sign several fuse box covers and my owners manual.
I don't know if Steve Babcock will be at Marauderville II, I won't be, but if he is, you will find him a totally
down to earth car guy just like us.
Every body have a great time.
Gary

That was a great weekend, Gary...Thanks for reviving the memory. When MVI happened, I'd only had the car and been on the site about 3 months and I didn't know a lot of folks. I would concur with everything you said about Mr. Babcock- Hell, he burnt his hand signing my upper intake and didn't scream or nothing :up: . I really felt like he was flattered to be surrounded by all these wackos who seemed to understand and embrace his vision for the car.I'm really looking forward to Indy now that I "know" more folks. I'm not a social critter by nature but there's something about this community that brings it out in me. I'm sorry we won't see you and Barb but I can promise I'll be wearing "her" hat.

Logan
06-10-2004, 05:37 AM
I'm all for spoiling surprises if it gets y'all to come to Marauderville II... :up:

Yes, Mr. Babcock has confirmed he'll be at Marauderville II along with other prominent folks that will make for quite the event...

TAF
06-10-2004, 08:14 AM
Thanks for this post Gary...this was definately one of the highlights for me of Marauderville I...:up:

teamrope
06-10-2004, 08:16 AM
I'm all for spoiling surprises if it gets y'all to come to Marauderville II... :up:

Yes, Mr. Babcock has confirmed he'll be at Marauderville II along with other prominent folks that will make for quite the event...
I'll have to bring the fuse cover from the Black then. :up:

MM03MOK
06-10-2004, 08:29 AM
I'll have to bring the fuse cover from the Black then. :up:Last year I brought the owners manual and he also signed my Marauder ball cap!!

MikesMerc
06-10-2004, 04:59 PM
Steve really is a great guy. He is the one who suggested the MM when I was car shopping for a "full size" sport sedan last fall. I had never even heard of the MM at that point. I almost felt like the consumer niche the MM was targeted (based on his description ) was me to a tee. I look forward to Indy and seeing him amongst those who appreciate his vision.

I'm also trying to talk his son Brian into riding down with me to Indy so he can see it for himself. He's also a car lover but has a thing for his Cobra. I want to change his mind:D