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03Merc
07-19-2018, 07:32 PM
If You have an extra set, of His kind, pls lmk! Thank You.


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Invective
07-19-2018, 07:38 PM
I'm wanting to do my cylinder head cooling mod ASAP but am finding no one locally interested in doing this for me. Zack made pieces on his on and Lethal Performance still markets kits for these motors. A labor intensive affair but necessary if you give a darn about these cars and other F-L-M cars with similar motors.........

RubberCtyRauder
07-19-2018, 08:37 PM
I'm wanting to do my cylinder head cooling mod ASAP but am finding no one locally interested in doing this for me. Zack made pieces on his on and Lethal Performance still markets kits for these motors. A labor intensive affair but necessary if you give a darn about these cars and other F-L-M cars with similar motors.........


drive to MO's..spend a day or two..decent hotels and car rental a few miles away..done it 3 times myself and I'm 685 miles from them

crownvic97
07-19-2018, 09:47 PM
I'm wanting to do my cylinder head cooling mod ASAP but am finding no one locally interested in doing this for me. Zack made pieces on his on and Lethal Performance still markets kits for these motors. A labor intensive affair but necessary if you give a darn about these cars and other F-L-M cars with similar motors.........

The lethal performance kit goes to the back of the heads correct? You will be looking at a good bit of labor charges at a shop for pulling the trans to do that I’d imagine.

The best way to do it is the top of the heads like Zack and Travis’ kit. I bet if you call On3 performance they would sell you the head fittings, then all you need is a 90 degree barb fitting with a 1/2” NPT end.

http://www.on3performance.com/shop/on-3-performance-coolant-crossover-delete-2-port/

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv45/Markd20000/2003%20Mercury%20Marauder/A4201777-2AA9-46E1-9C1C-9A2B952A0547_zpsipkiu4vf.jpg (http://s668.photobucket.com/user/Markd20000/media/2003%20Mercury%20Marauder/A4201777-2AA9-46E1-9C1C-9A2B952A0547_zpsipkiu4vf.jpg.h tml)

fastblackmerc
07-20-2018, 05:12 AM
drive to MO's..spend a day or two..decent hotels and car rental a few miles away..done it 3 times myself and I'm 685 miles from them

+1

Short trip to Dallas, Georgia.

J-MAN
07-24-2018, 05:37 PM
Take the Midnight train.

Invective
07-24-2018, 06:03 PM
drive to MO's..spend a day or two..decent hotels and car rental a few miles away..done it 3 times myself and I'm 685 miles from them


That's the plan. There are firm plans drawn up to be at MartyO's shop for a few days next month. Hotel reservations made but no car rental reservations yet. MartyO and 88grandmarq have agreed to make my vision of Marauder 'Phase One' come to fruition!


https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.mB1vc7V6-phrRmBn3v4yqgHaEo&pid=Api

musclemerc
07-24-2018, 06:22 PM
Both Men are good and honest brokers.

I've done business with each of them and will continue to do so in the future.

Spectragod
07-24-2018, 08:26 PM
The lethal performance kit goes to the back of the heads correct? You will be looking at a good bit of labor charges at a shop for pulling the trans to do that I’d imagine.

The best way to do it is the top of the heads like Zack and Travis’ kit. I bet if you call On3 performance they would sell you the head fittings, then all you need is a 90 degree barb fitting with a 1/2” NPT end.

http://www.on3performance.com/shop/on-3-performance-coolant-crossover-delete-2-port/

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv45/Markd20000/2003%20Mercury%20Marauder/A4201777-2AA9-46E1-9C1C-9A2B952A0547_zpsipkiu4vf.jpg (http://s668.photobucket.com/user/Markd20000/media/2003%20Mercury%20Marauder/A4201777-2AA9-46E1-9C1C-9A2B952A0547_zpsipkiu4vf.jpg.h tml)




REALLY? I did mine with the motor in the car, trans on the motor, where are you getting your information?

03Merc
07-24-2018, 08:40 PM
Anyways....does anyone have a kit?? Come on now.


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Mackdombles
07-24-2018, 09:26 PM
ICT BILLET. Ebay store has those top of rear head fittings. I used two sets front for Cot delete and rear set for the cooling mod. They are around 28 dollars? Then get your brass elbow fittings at your nearest home store and you are set.

crownvic97
07-24-2018, 10:30 PM
REALLY? I did mine with the motor in the car, trans on the motor, where are you getting your information?

First, relax.

I assumed this was the kit he was talking about

https://www.lethalperformance.com/mmr-96-04-4-6l-5-4l-head-cooling-mod.html

If you installed a kit like this with the transmission attached, kudos to you, I guarantee a shop is likely not going to attempt that and I’m not even sure how it’s possible.

Never did I say you had to pull the engine, at all ever, or transmission to do a kit utilizing the the top freeze plugs.

My experience is from actually doing it, that’s my engine on a stand, it being out has nothing to do with the cooling mod.

Thanks

musclemerc
07-25-2018, 03:32 AM
ICT BILLET. Ebay store has those top of rear head fittings. I used two sets front for Cot delete and rear set for the cooling mod. They are around 28 dollars? Then get your brass elbow fittings at your nearest home store and you are set.


This is the route ya'll need to take.

Spectragod
07-25-2018, 07:02 AM
First, relax.

I assumed this was the kit he was talking about

https://www.lethalperformance.com/mmr-96-04-4-6l-5-4l-head-cooling-mod.html

If you installed a kit like this with the transmission attached, kudos to you, I guarantee a shop is likely not going to attempt that and I’m not even sure how it’s possible.

Never did I say you had to pull the engine, at all ever, or transmission to do a kit utilizing the the top freeze plugs.

My experience is from actually doing it, that’s my engine on a stand, it being out has nothing to do with the cooling mod.

Thanks


I am relaxed, I am however tired of disinformation.



You don't need to remove the motor or trans for either kit, would it be easier, sure, but if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.


The kit I used, http://www.cobraengineering.net/cooling%20mod.html


When you put your motor back in, look up, you can get to the freeze plugs easily.

fastblackmerc
07-25-2018, 07:14 AM
Anyways....does anyone have a kit?? Come on now.


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Here you go:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LFP-EVEN-FLOW-HEAD-COOLING-MOD-4V-96-04-Ford-SVT-MUSTANG-COBRA-MACH1-DOHC/390858951571?epid=12020445255&hash=item5b01024b93%3Ag%3AL9QA AOSwL7VWl8p7&_sacat=0&_nkw=dohc+rear+head+cooling&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=0%7C0

2nd generation kit:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LFP-EVEN-FLOW-GENERATION-2-4V-HEAD-COOLING-MOD-FORD-4-6L-03-04-Mach1-NEW/261281048997?hash=item3cd59069 a5%3Ag%3AHAIAAOxyOM5Rc3bh&_sacat=0&_nkw=dohc+rear+head+cooling&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=0%7C0

Invective
07-25-2018, 07:26 AM
Here you go:



Truly interesting variations on a theme. The Cobra Engineering parts are the most custom pieces, while Zack's illustrations and write-ups are the most informative IMO. A wealth of info and experience here obviously.

musclemerc
07-25-2018, 07:27 AM
Both of those will not work FBM. As you should know the MM needs 2 fittings

To those asking for a "kit" if your unable to figure out what fittings to buy dont even bother with a cooling mod.

It's way over your head.

crownvic97
07-25-2018, 07:52 AM
I am relaxed, I am however tired of disinformation.



You don't need to remove the motor or trans for either kit, would it be easier, sure, but if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.


The kit I used, http://www.cobraengineering.net/cooling%20mod.html


When you put your motor back in, look up, you can get to the freeze plugs easily.

I did not spread any misinformation.

You clearly are just looking for a fight, you also have a reading comprehension issue.

My engine is back in and running, thanks. I don’t see how you would reach the REAR freeze plugs and have the room to install the cooling fittings, but I didn’t say it was impossible.

He was talking about having a SHOP INSTALL THE COOLING KIT. I said they would probably kill him on labor and pull the transmission for access, this was assuming he was talking about the kit I linked. It’s a hypothetical, depends on the shop and the mechanic. For the second time, I NEVER MENTIONED ENGINE REMOVAL, the picture I provided just happens to be an engine on a stand to show my cooling fittings.

I know you are a long time member and I respect you but I’m honestly perplexed by your complete disrespect that I did nothing to deserve.

Invective
07-25-2018, 08:06 AM
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Spectragod
07-25-2018, 08:22 AM
The lethal performance kit goes to the back of the heads correct? You will be looking at a good bit of labor charges at a shop for pulling the trans to do that I’d imagine.

The best way to do it is the top of the heads like Zack and Travis’ kit. I bet if you call On3 performance they would sell you the head fittings, then all you need is a 90 degree barb fitting with a 1/2” NPT end.

http://www.on3performance.com/shop/on-3-performance-coolant-crossover-delete-2-port/

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv45/Markd20000/2003%20Mercury%20Marauder/A4201777-2AA9-46E1-9C1C-9A2B952A0547_zpsipkiu4vf.jpg (http://s668.photobucket.com/user/Markd20000/media/2003%20Mercury%20Marauder/A4201777-2AA9-46E1-9C1C-9A2B952A0547_zpsipkiu4vf.jpg.h tml)


I did not spread any misinformation.

You clearly are just looking for a fight, you also have a reading comprehension issue.

My engine is back in and running, thanks. I don’t see how you would reach the REAR freeze plugs and have the room to install the cooling fittings, but I didn’t say it was impossible.

He was talking about having a SHOP INSTALL THE COOLING KIT. I said they would probably kill him on labor and pull the transmission for access, this was assuming he was talking about the kit I linked. It’s a hypothetical, depends on the shop and the mechanic. For the second time, I NEVER MENTIONED ENGINE REMOVAL, the picture I provided just happens to be an engine on a stand to show my cooling fittings.

I know you are a long time member and I respect you but I’m honestly perplexed by your complete disrespect that I did nothing to deserve.


No, you are thinking the trans needs removed, and it doesn't, all I did was clarify that, would it make it for easier access, yes, but at the cost of an R&I of the trans I wouldn't do it. It will bolt in just fine without taking the car apart.

Spectragod
07-25-2018, 08:23 AM
Both of those will not work FBM. As you should know the MM needs 2 fittings

To those asking for a "kit" if your unable to figure out what fittings to buy dont even bother with a cooling mod.

It's way over your head.


And why don't we have a "LIKE" button, it's in order here for sure....:beer:

musclemerc
07-25-2018, 08:28 AM
For the record you can remove the rear expansion plugs without dropping the trans.

Remove the wiper cowl, tons of room back there.

I’m not in a fight with anyone. Hell I invented the 5/8” cooling mod

Check the archives on my old forum on this site

crownvic97
07-25-2018, 08:40 AM
No, you are thinking the trans needs removed, and it doesn't, all I did was clarify that, would it make it for easier access, yes, but at the cost of an R&I of the trans I wouldn't do it. It will bolt in just fine without taking the car apart.

Still a reading comprehension issue but I’m done responding to you here, I’d make more progress talking to a rock.

crownvic97
07-25-2018, 08:43 AM
And why don't we have a "LIKE" button, it's in order here for sure....:beer:


For the record you can remove the rear expansion plugs without dropping the trans.

Remove the wiper cowl, tons of room back there.

I’m not in a fight with anyone. Hell I invented the 5/8” cooling mod

Check the archives on my old forum on this site

My point was that if he’s hiring some random shop to do it (I have no idea who would be doing the work), they likely could charge him a ton of labor and MAY pull the trans. That is the only point I made and then said go with fittings for the top of the heads instead of the back as it’s easier to access.

Somehow that turns into I have no idea what I’m talking about and am spreading misinformation.

mm svt
07-25-2018, 09:41 AM
If you really want a Zack type head cooling mod and no one is willing to make you a set, I will. PM me

Spectragod
07-25-2018, 09:50 AM
Still a reading comprehension issue but I’m done responding to you here, I’m going back to smoking a rock.

Fixed it for you...😂

Spectragod
07-25-2018, 09:54 AM
The lethal performance kit goes to the back of the heads correct? You will be looking at a good bit of labor charges at a shop for pulling the trans to do that I’d imagine.


I comprehend, as you say, you would imagine labor would be high to pull the trans in order to install that kit, how that is accurate information, I am unsure.

RubberCtyRauder
07-25-2018, 10:22 AM
if one is not installing themself, you need to go to a performance shop. a dealer or average Joe's garage is going to look at you like "you want what "? any performance shop that has dealt with mustangs knows this mod.

03Merc
07-25-2018, 11:00 AM
Why do You people keep posting info on this thread? Mods, help Me out here.....

All I need is a cooling mod set. No nonsense Sheesh.


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musclemerc
07-25-2018, 12:20 PM
Where in south Florida are you?

I'm going home next month

03Merc
07-25-2018, 01:21 PM
Where in south Florida are you?

I'm going home next month



Boca Raton


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RubberCtyRauder
07-25-2018, 02:24 PM
apparently, nobody has a cooling mod set or they would have posted it, so options were posted to make or buy elsewhere.

03Merc
07-25-2018, 02:28 PM
apparently, nobody has a cooling mod set or they would have posted it, so options were posted to make or buy elsewhere.



Actually, You're wrong. This wasn't a post for anything else to suffice. 2 people contacted Me with the correct parts. I'm good now!


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RubberCtyRauder
07-25-2018, 03:23 PM
then you should have posted that you got what you need, its the fing internetz

Zack
07-25-2018, 07:58 PM
I just bought stock to make some

Themarauderguy
07-26-2018, 01:02 AM
Awesome I'll be needing a set for my Trilogy car.

HotRaud90
07-26-2018, 07:35 AM
Decided to jump in on this thread rather than make another redundant one. I'm in need of cooling mod fittings for an NA car and would like them shipped out ASAP. I'm tearing the car down for timing chain guides/tensioners this weekend and figured I might as well do the cooling mod while I'm in there.

Is there anyone that could ship parts out before this weekend? I know they wouldn't get here until next week, but I'm on a time crunch to get it all done.

03Merc
07-26-2018, 08:05 AM
Decided to jump in on this thread rather than make another redundant one. I'm in need of cooling mod fittings for an NA car and would like them shipped out ASAP. I'm tearing the car down for timing chain guides/tensioners this weekend and figured I might as well do the cooling mod while I'm in there.

Is there anyone that could ship parts out before this weekend? I know they wouldn't get here until next week, but I'm on a time crunch to get it all done.



Sorry but I'm first in line here. This thread has been hijacked and corrupted.


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HotRaud90
07-26-2018, 08:50 AM
Sorry but I'm first in line here. This thread has been hijacked and corrupted.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProOf course you're first. No one doubts that or sees otherwise. I'm simply adding my request to a thread where most of the guys who fab these parts are commenting and frequenting. No harm intended.

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RubberCtyRauder
07-26-2018, 09:06 AM
Actually, You're wrong. This wasn't a post for anything else to suffice. 2 people contacted Me with the correct parts. I'm good now!


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thought you got parts, yet you still seek

03Merc
07-26-2018, 09:15 AM
thought you got parts, yet you still seek



Haven't received anything yet! Just messages about them. So I shall seek till I receive. I'll be repairing a few Marauders at My shop shortly who may need the mod done.


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03MERCMARAUDER
07-26-2018, 03:48 PM
I just bought stock to make some

awesome I need a set

Zack
07-26-2018, 07:41 PM
I’ll start churning them out next weekend

Granddaddy Marq
07-27-2018, 03:59 AM
I’ll start churning them out next weekend



I'll take 1 set for N/A application please. Still the same shipping address And price?