ABS Light Came on

[Chi Stallion]

Drove the car a bit more since I replaced the trans range sensor part # sw5214. After about a couple days no trans codes got thrown. Fast forward today my ABS light came on. Plug in the xcal4 and no codes. Hmm thats strange.. anyways my local mechanic said to bring it in and scan it on his scanner since my xcal4 won’t read it cause it’s not an obd2 code.
Also I do have to remind you guys if it can be the battery junction fuse box messing with it ? I had mentioned in my last few posts about my battery junction box top buss bar terminal breaking off and having to solder. Anybody ever replaced their fuse box successfully on the MM ?

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[MyBlackBeasts]

Check the rear wheel speed sensors, they like to back themselves out.

[offroadkarter]

ABS codes are not able to be read by basic OBDII readers, your mechanic is correct. Just have him scan it and see whats up, I had to do both front wheel hubs on my 03 from the sensors going out.

[Chi Stallion]

Thanks guys. The scanner is pointing towards the rear driver side wheel sensor.


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[Chi Stallion]

After looking at the car on the lift it looks like both rear abs wheel sensor are shot. Pinion seal is leaking. The axle seals look like they should be replaced also. Will get all the parts ordered today. I just can’t figure if I have to order the whole m-2410c kit again or can I just buy the axle seals separate. Any help is appreciated thanks.

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[Chi Stallion]

Anybody know the correct part # for the pinion flange ? My Ford dealer is giving me 2 different part #s which are

dl3z-4851a
4L5Z-4866-AA

Reason why I ask because my pinion seal keeps leaking everytime I replace it. Ive replaced it 2-3 times in the past 7 years. I also have the dynotech D/S


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[blazen71]

I've used repair sleeves with success if you want to go that route?

[Chi Stallion]

Ok I got the right part number looks like dl3z4851a is the pinion flange. ABS sensors came in today got them both for a killer price 160 for both when retail is 135 for each. (Got a friend with a body shop that has a discount).

Last is the axle seals and pinion seal. Which im gona order directly from Ford. Also instead of getting the M4210C Master gear kit, From what I’m told, the axle seals from Ford are better than the Ford Racing Kit. Royal Purple 75-140 gear oil and Lubelocker FLR-880 gasket is coming in tommorrow.

Will take it straight to the man who rebuilt my rear end Hans at Deans Performance.


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[Mr. Man]

First thing I've ever seen made in Romania..... besides gymnasts.

[justbob]

First thing I've ever seen made in Romania..... besides gymnasts.

And massage “therapist’s”..


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[Chi Stallion]

I hope those abs sensors don’t have any gypsy curses cause I had a gypsy curse spell put on me by my ex.

[parker]

First thing I've ever seen made in Romania..... besides gymnasts.

And AK-47’s


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[Fastbob]

DL3Z-4851-A is the pinion flange you want. I work in the parts dept. at a Ford dealership. The "4866" is the part that connects the "4851" flange mounted to the pinion gear to the driveshaft.

[Chi Stallion]

DL3Z-4851-A is the pinion flange you want. I work in the parts dept. at a Ford dealership. The "4866" is the part that connects the "4851" flange mounted to the pinion gear to the driveshaft.

Correct the 4866 is the driveshaft flange that connects to the 4851 pinion flange. I even drove out to my local Ford dealer and harassed the parts guy which is the right part #. Luckily he was nice and printed me out a sheet

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[Comin' in Hot]

Ford racing sells the pinion flange. Part #: M-4851-B

[Chi Stallion]

Ford racing sells the pinion flange. Part #: M-4851-B

Hmm I might get that one, if it’s better quality

[Chi Stallion]

Update

I took the car to my local Mechanic to do the install. Once he opened the rear end cover, he noticed the carrier shims were out of place and backed up or either ripped. Also metal shavings were visible from the carrier shims. It seemed like the TA Girdle Rear End cover helped so the carriers shims wouldn’t make contact with the TA pan.

The kit I used was the m4210c3 Ford Racing Master Gear Kit. I never heard no noise or felt anything strange in the rear end. Now it makes me wonder how long i had been driving with this issue.

My Rear end was rebuilt back in 2012 at 110k miles. Now the Car is at 193k and this is the first time it’s been opened. Royal Purple Gear Oil 75-90 Gear Oil was used by Han when he rebuilt my rear end in 2012. I also had new 31 Spline Ford Axles, 31 Cobra Carrier with CF Cluths. 410 Ford Racing Gears, m4210c3 Master Kit and TA Girdle and stud kit.

My local mechanic said im very lucky the ABS light came on so I can check the rear end and that my rear end didn’t explode. We put the cover back on and filled the gear oil. I limped it back home because I don’t have the right shims available and it would take a week for the parts to get here.

I guess now my biggest concern is if my axle shafts are toast. My axle shaft seals didn’t leak. Reason why I wanted to change them was just for extra security. It’s just my pinion seal that’s visible with the leak.

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[justbob]

It’s not at all uncommon to see the spacers move. Same goes for chewed up spider gears and leaky pinion seals. These rear ends don’t seem to last at all.


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[MyBlackBeasts]

Update

I took the car to my local Mechanic to do the install. Once he opened the rear end cover, he noticed the carrier shims were out of place and backed up or either ripped. Also metal shavings were visible from the carrier shims. It seemed like the TA Girdle Rear End cover helped so the carriers shims wouldn’t make contact with the TA pan.

The kit I used was the m4210c3 Ford Racing Master Gear Kit. I never heard no noise or felt anything strange in the rear end. Now it makes me wonder how long i had been driving with this issue.

My Rear end was rebuilt back in 2012 at 110k miles. Now the Car is at 193k and this is the first time it’s been opened. Royal Purple Gear Oil 75-90 Gear Oil was used by Han when he rebuilt my rear end in 2012. I also had new 31 Spline Ford Axles, 31 Cobra Carrier with CF Cluths. 410 Ford Racing Gears, m4210c3 Master Kit and TA Girdle and stud kit.

My local mechanic said im very lucky the ABS light came on so I can check the rear end and that my rear end didn’t explode. We put the cover back on and filled the gear oil. I limped it back home because I don’t have the right shims available and it would take a week for the parts to get here.

I guess now my biggest concern is if my axle shafts are toast. My axle shaft seals didn’t leak. Reason why I wanted to change them was just for extra security. It’s just my pinion seal that’s visible with the leak.











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Get rid of the shim packs & replace with 1-piece solid shims.

Same thing happened to Joe's DTR a while back.

[Chi Stallion]

Get rid of the shim packs & replace with 1-piece solid shims.

Same thing happened to Joe's DTR a while back. Do you know the part # I should get

[MyBlackBeasts]

Do you know the part # I should get

Get the exact measurement if each shimpack thickness.

Go to Ford parts and get the 2 solid shims you need.

If they do diff work they'll stock an assortment.

I had to order 1 of the 2 I needed.

Install & measure backlash.

If off, get the 2 shims needed to shift the carrier the required amount.

Ford has a chart somewhere (I can't find my copy) that tells you the shims required to make the required adjustment left or right to dial in the backlash.

[Chi Stallion]

Update

Axle shafts got replaced with new Ford 31 Spline, Timken axle bearings and pinion bearings, shims got replaced with 1 piece solid shims. Motorcraft new axle seals and pinion seal. Also the whole rear end was cleaned up before the install so no metal shavings are left. My 4.10 ring and pinion gear was fine also was the 31 spline carrier.

Big thanks to the Man the Myth the Legend Han @ Deans Performance. [emoji106]


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[Chi Stallion]

I forgot to mention the abs light is still on with the new abs sensors. Do I need a special scanner to turn it off ?

[Blakshukvw]

My ford tech that’s going to do my 31 spline 4.10 upgrade told me definitely don’t use those shims provided in those kits that they are junk. He also advised against everything ford Motorsport as its not OEM quality. My build consists of everything from the axle seal to axle seal OEM ford including the brand new ford gear set. Furthermore, he told me he would acquire the correct side shims from his parts department.

OEM bearings are koyo btw.

[Comin' in Hot]

If the ABS light is on and there are no codes, or scanners are not able to connect to the ABS system, it is most likely that your ABS module is bad. You can remove it and send it out to be repaired.

[Blakshukvw]

It’s not at all uncommon to see the spacers move. Same goes for chewed up spider gears and leaky pinion seals. These rear ends don’t seem to last at all.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I dunno. Mine has 230k on it and my explorer had 260k on it. Ford 8.8s have been known to be pretty solid rear ends.

[Chi Stallion]

Just a heads up I was trying to remove the abs module earlier and when I removed the jlt cold air intake I noticed the filter cover was rubbing against one of the abs lines. I don’t see any visible leaks but it looks very corrosive and about to crack.

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[Invective]

Just a heads up I was trying to remove the abs module earlier and when I removed the jlt cold air intake I noticed the filter cover was rubbing against one of the abs lines. I don’t see any visible leaks but it looks very corrosive and about to crack.

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eeeek! Thanks for this - glad you caught it when you did.

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[Chi Stallion]

I really can’t blame nobody but myself. When I installed a new JLT filter back in June, I was a bit bothered by the filter rubbing against the windshield washer reservoir, so I mounted the filter cover on a angle which sat directly on top of the abs brake line. Stupid careless mistake on my end.
Only positive thing is I caught it before the line cracked and started leaking. I went to my local Ford dealer to harass the parts guy and see if that brake line is in the parts inventory but the parts department was closed. I have a feeling its gona be discontinued.


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[Chi Stallion]

Update

Looks like the ABS nightmare is finally coming to an end. After having the abs module sent out and repaired at module repair pro, the light still was on after the repair. So my mechanic checked the wiring connection leading to the driver side rear abs sensor. No connection looks like a wire got pinched somewhere. So looks like running a new wire to the connection is the best option. Glad the nightmare is over.


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