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Finally
07-14-2020, 09:53 PM
Curious why no 4.6 4V blower intake support,I would have thought they would have been making some by now with what everyone saying they are getting hard to find ..
Curless
07-15-2020, 05:43 AM
Curious why no 4.6 4V blower intake support,I would have thought they would have been making some by now with what everyone saying they are getting hard to find ..
Simple, 17 year old technology... the world does not care about yesterday's engines... Used to be the factory had to make parts for 10 years after production, lucky to see 5 now.
Mr. Man
07-15-2020, 10:59 AM
Not too step on your toes Chris, but a Chevy 350 small block is 70 year old tech and there is a huge aftermarket. More likely is limited demand so a business case is hard to justify. :) :twocents:
blazen71
07-15-2020, 11:07 AM
Because the Coyote is such a better platform, everybody is moving on to that.
crouse
07-15-2020, 11:22 AM
I think the main thing is that only 11,000 some Marauder's were sold and it's not worth the R&D to develop something for such a small number of vehicles.
musclemerc
07-15-2020, 12:18 PM
Because the new MM owners are cheap...
They all say "Me...me... me..."
Then crickets when its time to pony up the cash!
fastblackmerc
07-15-2020, 12:48 PM
Because the new MM owners are cheap...
They all say "Me...me... me..."
Then crickets when its time to pony up the cash!
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
justbob
07-15-2020, 01:29 PM
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yup...
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offroadkarter
07-15-2020, 01:43 PM
guys, while I agree that panther owners are cheap asses these days, the 4v mod motor was used in other ford vehicles aside from ours
Still isn't enough market demand for an aftermarket lower which also needs the intercooler. If you bought an all in one kenne bell kit, it includes all that stuff.
RubberCtyRauder
07-15-2020, 03:19 PM
The Cobra lower is fine, can switch to LFP intercooler..I did
Joe Walsh
07-15-2020, 03:28 PM
Because the Coyote is such a better platform, everybody is moving on to that.
^^^ This ^^^^
Because the new MM owners are cheap...
They all say "Me...me... me..."
Then crickets when its time to pony up the cash!
^^^^ and This ^^^^
MyBlackBeasts
07-15-2020, 04:44 PM
Because the Coyote is such a better platform, everybody is moving on to that.
The 5.0 I had in my 2018 F150 was a piece of cr ap, not impressed. Was SO happy I leased it and was not stuck owning the pile of junk...:shake:
ChiTownMaraud3r
07-16-2020, 06:42 AM
The coyote is glorious. Way better than the 4.6 IMO.
But yes, there will be even less options the older it gets, for example VMP not making as many kits for the terminator as well.
blazen71
07-16-2020, 07:12 AM
The 5.0 I had in my 2018 F150 was a piece of cr ap, not impressed. Was SO happy I leased it and was not stuck owning the pile of junk...:shake: But it was for a good reason, look at the truck you have now :beer:
Themarauderguy
07-16-2020, 10:02 AM
Sadly our 4.6 double overhead cam has all but been forgotten about since the introduction of the Coyote 5.0. and as stated earlier in this thread even the Terminators parts are becoming less frequently made and available the aftermarket anyway. so many people have moved on to the 5.0. I see this old 4.6 4 valve engine becoming very rare and hard to find parts for. the hell they already are. But none the least I guess they were a cool motor for their time. I have one now so I can't say much. Lol
Sadly our 4.6 double overhead cam has all but been forgotten about since the introduction of the Coyote 5.0. and as stated earlier in this thread even the Terminators parts are becoming less frequently made and available the aftermarket anyway. so many people have moved on to the 5.0. I see this old 4.6 4 valve engine becoming very rare and hard to find parts for. the hell they already are. But none the least I guess they were a cool motor for their time. I have one now so I can't say much. Lol
I agree. Having a one year only (half of one year and half of another) engine in my 1963 Marauder I can see what's coming for us with the 4.6, only the 4.6 will be even worse because there are more unique parts on it than the 406. You can already see it starting with things like the cross-over tube.
Joe Walsh
07-17-2020, 10:56 AM
Sadly our 4.6 double overhead cam has all but been forgotten about since the introduction of the Coyote 5.0. and as stated earlier in this thread even the Terminators parts are becoming less frequently made and available the aftermarket anyway. so many people have moved on to the 5.0. I see this old 4.6 4 valve engine becoming very rare and hard to find parts for. the hell they already are. But none the least I guess they were a cool motor for their time. I have one now so I can't say much. Lol
True!
I was super excited that the Marauder was going to have a 4.6L all aluminum DOHC V8....back in late 2002.
After dumping TONS of money into it to make it go fast, then watching FORD introduce a Coyote that made over 100 more HP and 100 more Lb-Ft Torque*....I gave up.
It WAS a nice engine....15 years ago.
*Not to mention being much more robust along with better fuel economy than the 4.6L
decipha
07-17-2020, 12:34 PM
The biggest factor is the age. In 18 years from now the new and improved engines will have people saying the same things about the coyote.
If you want to be very disappointed just go drive a 10 sec electric car. It will make you never want to drive a gasser again.
Joe Walsh
07-17-2020, 01:10 PM
Nahhhh!
I'm looking forward to hangin' on while bangin' gears in my restomod 363SBF Foxbody. Should be a high 10 sec ride.
Today's electric and dual clutch automatic cars take NO skill to drive and are BORING!
Punch it and point it = LAME.
Performance cars should have 3 pedals!!
Plus, after a few hard runs at the strip ya have to recharge a Tesla....lol
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Fastbob
07-17-2020, 01:58 PM
Why no aftermarket support? No demand.
Agent2006
07-17-2020, 02:12 PM
I just wish they still sold a 2V kit...
justbob
07-17-2020, 03:07 PM
Nahhhh!
I'm looking forward to hangin' on while bangin' gears in my restomod 363SBF Foxbody. Should be a high 10 sec ride.
Today's electric and dual clutch automatic cars take NO skill to drive and are BORING!
Punch it and point it = LAME.
Performance cars should have 3 pedals!!
Plus, after a few hard runs at the strip ya have to recharge a Tesla....lol
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Correct on all. I like a drivers car. Even the new GT500 isn’t a drivers car anymore!
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RubberCtyRauder
07-17-2020, 03:24 PM
Tork tek makes 2v blower stuff
Joe Walsh
07-17-2020, 04:29 PM
Correct on all. I like a drivers car. Even the new GT500 isn’t a drivers car anymore!
Yep, the 'almightly' GT500 has a rotary dial shifter!!.... :puke:
My Fusion Sport has the same, lame, rotary dial for a shifter...and I HATE THE FRIGGIN' THING!!!!....:mad2:
My wife's 2015 Focus (160 HP I4) has a REAL automatic shifter in the middle of the console....like it should be.
Rotary dial shifters belong on a Turdyota!
Themarauderguy
07-17-2020, 05:05 PM
Tork tek makes 2v blower stuff ^^^ this. I might add they are a nice kit! For a 2v
Finally
07-19-2020, 07:15 AM
Seems to me there are plenty of 4.6 4V engines to develop a intake ,I would think
Finally
07-19-2020, 07:17 AM
I’m willing to bet we could all make a list of intakes that they still produce that they sell very few of..
Finally
07-19-2020, 07:25 AM
Yes to the above. While I’ve been away a few years I see some stuff like Stainless headers have gone up a bit since the time I purchased the set on my car and it is getting pricy now for sure but an intake should not be that hard for them to develop. As you mentioned,lots of other 4.6 4 valve engines in other platforms
BUCKWHEAT
07-19-2020, 08:37 AM
Agree with all of the above posts. That's rare! Do we have a step-by-step instruction manual to update our cars to current Coyote w/ 6 or 10 speed? I am ready for that change.
Joe Walsh
07-19-2020, 10:52 AM
Agree with all of the above posts. That's rare!
Do we have a step-by-step instruction manual to update our cars to current Coyote w/ 6 or 10 speed?
I am ready for that change.
If you want to go fast, reliably, with good fuel economy....its the most logical way to go.
Dropping tons of money on a 4.6 4 speed auto is stupid....ask me how I know...:o
2018+ Gen 3 Coyote out of a wrecked Mustang GT is the ticket.
Problem is converting the OEM ECM/PCM for the required Copperhead ECM/PCM and making it all work together in a Panther chassis.
Imagine 480 HP/420 TRQ ....N/A, stock ... along with a 10 speed auto turning 3.73s or 4.10s
Then add an Edelbrock blower kit for 700 HP....:D
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offroadkarter
07-19-2020, 03:09 PM
The biggest factor is the age. In 18 years from now the new and improved engines will have people saying the same things about the coyote.
If you want to be very disappointed just go drive a 10 sec electric car. It will make you never want to drive a gasser again.
The 1/4 mile world record holding Tesla Model S P100D got sent home in a bracket race against Sherman & Chris Vining with a 690rwhp Whipple Marauder.
Mebot
07-22-2020, 01:11 AM
The 1/4 mile world record holding Tesla Model S P100D got sent home in a bracket race against Sherman & Chris Vining with a 690rwhp Whipple Marauder.What? Really? Is there a link to more info on this race?
offroadkarter
07-22-2020, 01:18 AM
What? Really? Is there a link to more info on this race?Look for the street machine eleminator top 32 shoot out at hot rod drag week 2019
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Mebot
07-23-2020, 05:58 AM
Look for the street machine eleminator top 32 shoot out at hot rod drag week 2019
Sent from my SM-G930U using TapatalkFound the Facebook post and video but it's not the race against the Tesla.... Still though, Sherm's car is badass as usual
offroadkarter
07-23-2020, 11:13 AM
Found the Facebook post and video but it's not the race against the Tesla.... Still though, Sherm's car is badass as usual
The day 5 drag week 2019 video on the motortrend channel will have it, just have to tumb thru like 8 hours of footage.
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