High beams and fog lights

[NickT02LS]

Tried search with not much luck. Anyway to have fog lights stay on with High Beams????

[Joe Walsh]

I've done it with several of my cars....I jumpered a wire from the High beam relay back to the Fog light relay, which normally loses power when the High beams are activated.

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They test all the bulbs that they sell to assure proper beam pattern, no hot spots, no blinding glare...etc.

I upgraded my 2020 Ranger STX with new LEDs for my Low beam, High Beam and Fog lights....and the difference was incredible!
Now, when some idiot in their Honda/Turdyota/Lexus drives towards me with their High beams on, I melt their retinas with the LEDs......:awe: :wflag:

[NXSBOB]

Tried search with not much luck. Anyway to have fog lights stay on with High Beams????
Why not have fog light on all the time?

[GetMeMyStogie]

It's legally mandated to turn off the fog lights (ie. near-visibility lighting) when enabling the high beams (far-visibility lighting). Modifying your car to disable this feature would be illegal.

The reason for this is pretty simple - fog lights light up the near field in front of the car, sending a lot of light back to the driver, which causes your pupils to close somewhat, reducing your night vision. If you're commanding high-beams, you're indicating your desire to see farther down the road, for which you want maximum night vision. So, while you might see more of what's near to the car, you'll see less of what's down the road.

It's a bit like turning on the interior lights - after shutting them off, you need a few minutes to see fully again.

More light doesn't always mean you'll see better.

[NickT02LS]

It is Illegal to go over speed limit, Illegal for certain lights being put in vehicles, illegal to remove catalytic converters, now in NY illegal for loud exhaust and so on, but yet it is done. I just like the lights to stay on. Where I drive the car mostly in NYC I don't have to worry about fog much. If you go on Daniel Stern lighting a lot of good info there on Lighting and legal/illegal about lighting, good reads and he gets very technical when responds to you.

[SilverPhoenix]

Where I drive the car mostly in NYC I don't have to worry about fog much.

Not trying to pick a fight, but if this ^^^^ is the case, why do you want the fogs to stay on when high beams are on?

[NickT02LS]

Not trying to pick a fight, but if this ^^^^ is the case, why do you want the fogs to stay on when high beams are on?

Maybe my ADHD kicking in, just like them to be on at all times, looks better in my opinion. I have done it the way someone mentioned on here by jumping the relay in previous vehicles, I just figured in todays world someone came out with a plug and play to do it.

[gdmjoe]

SilverPhoenix... why do you want the fogs to stay on when high beams are on?
In addition to (NickT02LS's) aesthetics...

It is often referred to as the bambi mod'. meaning: Provides additional lighting in rural areas where deer (here called, high speed beef) crossing/on the roadway in the dark are an issue.
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[SilverPhoenix]

Maybe my ADHD kicking in, just like them to be on at all times, looks better in my opinion. I have done it the way someone mentioned on here by jumping the relay in previous vehicles, I just figured in todays world someone came out with a plug and play to do it.


In addition to (NickT02LS's) aesthetics...

It is often referred to as the bambi mod'. meaning: Provides additional lighting in rural areas where deer (here called, high speed beef) crossing/on the roadway in the dark are an issue.
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To be honest, I don't understand either reasoning, but hey, it's not my car so whatever floats your boat...

[MyBlackBeasts]

In addition to (NickT02LS's) aesthetics...

It is often referred to as the bambi mod'. meaning: Provides additional lighting in rural areas where deer (here called, high speed beef) crossing/on the roadway in the dark are an issue.
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^^^^^THIS^^^^^

When high beams are on the light projection leaves the left and right fields in the dark so you can't see the friken' animals/people that are running/jumping in front of you from the side which is why it should be ILLEGAL to disable the blasted things when the high beams are on!

[MyBlackBeasts]

It's legally mandated to turn off the fog lights (ie. near-visibility lighting) when enabling the high beams (far-visibility lighting). Modifying your car to disable this feature would be illegal.

The reason for this is pretty simple - fog lights light up the near field in front of the car, sending a lot of light back to the driver, which causes your pupils to close somewhat, reducing your night vision. If you're commanding high-beams, you're indicating your desire to see farther down the road, for which you want maximum night vision. So, while you might see more of what's near to the car, you'll see less of what's down the road.

It's a bit like turning on the interior lights - after shutting them off, you need a few minutes to see fully again.

More light doesn't always mean you'll see better.

no, it's all about maximum lumens aimed at oncoming traffic. Driver visibility is actually better with FL on with high beams as visible range is nearly 180* instead of 30*.

[justbob]

Aesthetically speaking I can’t stand them turning off myself. More light the merrier IMO. In rural areas I run my light bar on my truck. Sure I don’t need to see 100’ up in the trees but having literally EVERYTHING surrounding the front lit up from side to side and ground to sky I can see every critter contemplating making a move.

Of course I can’t stand all these new cars that kill the driving light while activating the turn signal. I understand the why, just looks dumb.


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[GetMeMyStogie]

no, it's all about maximum lumens aimed at oncoming traffic. Driver visibility is actually better with FL on with high beams as visible range is nearly 180* instead of 30*.

I guess you know better than the scientists and engineers who came up with the system.

Can you offer any reason at all for it's existence?

[GetMeMyStogie]

It is Illegal to go over speed limit, Illegal for certain lights being put in vehicles, illegal to remove catalytic converters, now in NY illegal for loud exhaust and so on, but yet it is done. I just like the lights to stay on. Where I drive the car mostly in NYC I don't have to worry about fog much. If you go on Daniel Stern lighting a lot of good info there on Lighting and legal/illegal about lighting, good reads and he gets very technical when responds to you.

People break the law usually to gain an advantage in some way or another.

Why would you break the law while disadvantaging yourself?

I'm glad you mentioned Daniel Stern. He goes into great detail why fog lights make you feel better but actually reduce your safety when used incorrectly:


https://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/fog_lamps/fog_lamps.html

Too many folks on this site are all about the feels, it seems.

[burt ragio]

I find it puzzling seeing someone getting bashed for asking a simple question. Then further ridiculed when when not in agreement. Thank god congress hasn't amended freedom of speech.

[SilverPhoenix]

no, it's all about maximum lumens aimed at oncoming traffic. Driver visibility is actually better with FL on with high beams as visible range is nearly 180* instead of 30*.

Is this why you ended up in the sandpit at the dragstrip, you had your high beams on?

Sorry, I just couldn't pass up the opportunity. I owe you a beer the next time I see you...

[Joe Walsh]

As others have posted, I like having my foglights on all the time because of the wide and lower field of lighting.
i.e. The sides of the road, close to you, are lit up.
I've avoided multiple animal impacts because my foglights lit up the animals on the shoulder of the road.

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[NickT02LS]

I find it puzzling seeing someone getting bashed for asking a simple question. Then further ridiculed when when not in agreement. Thank god congress hasn't amended freedom of speech.

Pretty amazing isn't it, but as you can see I will give my opinion, and being well aware of legalities and lighting as mentioned in Daniel Sterns website I am confident in my decision to have em on.
Hey could have been worse, I could have said I was using HID's in non HID's housings :)