Big Brake Kits

[JVD]

Are there any big brake kits out there that will pretty much bolt on and fit behind the stock wheels without ridiculous spacers? I have seen Baer brakes on some cars but the calipers on their website right now looks different from the ones I have seen on other members cars?

[blazen71]

TCE/Wilwood 14" Kit

https://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/marauder/kits-17/

[fastblackmerc]

TCE/Wilwood 14" Kit

https://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/marauder/kits-17/

This is the best kit for your MM.

[blazen71]

Here is the budget option. It's basically the old Baer kit but with off the shelf, easy to get parts. Someone posted that C6 calipers will work and have less flex.


https://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?94024-Big-Brakes-on-a-not-so-big-Budget-YEP&highlight=big+brake

[JVD]

Oh wow, so the older Baer kits used C5 calipers? Does the TCE kit require any grinding or is it a simple bolt on? Seems like the budget option requires grinding?

[justbob]

Oh wow, so the older Baer kits used C5 calipers? Does the TCE kit require any grinding or is it a simple bolt on? Seems like the budget option requires grinding?

So little it really isn’t worth mentioning to be honest.


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[JVD]

You mean the TCE kit?

[justbob]

No, the budget kit that is on hundreds of Marauders, Vic’s, and Town cars by now. Too easy.


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[JVD]

Nice! Do they clear the original wheels without spacers?

[justbob]

Yes, and no spacers. I still had credit card clearance between the caliper and the wheel weights too.

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[blazen71]

Nice! Do they clear the original wheels without spacers?Please take the time to read thru the post first before asking all the questions that were already asked, and answered.

[Black Terror]

Zack's Big Brake Kit is not a Baer conversion. It is a great kit put together by Zack and Jerry. Kit performed great on my Marauder for many years, was able to do Tail of Dragon without any fear of Brake fade.

[blazen71]

I had both the 1st gen Baer kit and the Zack/Jerry kit. What would I know?

[offroadkarter]

Oh wow, so the older Baer kits used C5 calipers? Does the TCE kit require any grinding or is it a simple bolt on? Seems like the budget option requires grinding?


Zack's Big Brake Kit is not a Baer conversion. It is a great kit put together by Zack and Jerry. Kit performed great on my Marauder for many years, was able to do Tail of Dragon without any fear of Brake fade.

The original Baer BBK that came out back when these cars were new (the kit they sell now is totally different/better) and the "DIY" BBK setup using C5 calipers both use the same style PBR twin piston caliper. SN95 cobras used this same caliper as well (albeit with different mounts). The PBR caliper was real popular in the 90's and 00's. So yeah, it's not "Baer" branding and it doesn't use a 2 piece rotor like the original Baer BBK, but the caliper is virtually the same and it is running a 14" rotor like the original BBK.

[SilverPhoenix]

To Baer or not to Baer, that is the question...:P

[loud2004marquis]

The original Baer BBK that came out back when these cars were new (the kit they sell now is totally different/better)

Does Baer still make a kit for the Marauder?

[JVD]

Does Baer still make a kit for the Marauder?

They do, however they use their own in-house caliper now and it looks massive. Doubt it would fit the OEM wheels.

On the other hand, I see people having some issues with rebuilt c5 brake calipers. What would be the best place to source quality rebuild from?

[blazen71]

Local parts store. That way when the piston seals start leaking you can warranty it there instead of the hassle of doing it online and shipping the leaking caliper back.

[JVD]

Who do I search for on facebook to get the aluminum brackets? Or does this person have a website? I tried searching the username from here but that doesn't work.

[offroadkarter]

Does Baer still make a kit for the Marauder?

They (and Wilwood) make kits that fit the 03+ panther front suspension for people who are doing crown vic subframe swaps under F100s. Nobody has tried it on a Marauder yet. Wish they sold a rear setup

https://baer.com/14-Front-Pro-Brake-System-4261422.html


Who do I search for on facebook to get the aluminum brackets? Or does this person have a website? I tried searching the username from here but that doesn't work.


https://www.facebook.com/gerald.irwin.14

[JVD]

Thanks! Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

[MM03]

Who do I search for on facebook to get the aluminum brackets? Or does this person have a website? I tried searching the username from here but that doesn't work.

Gerald Irwin is the man who makes and sells the brackets for the big brakes on a budget kit. He’s on Facebook In a lot of the Marauder groups .


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[daniel.drives]

+1 for the budget big brake kit. Been using it at trackdays for almost 2 years now, incredible improvements in braking force and ultimate heat capacity. c5 calipers are good, c6 calipers are marginally stiffer, but also thicker, and may not fit under the stock wheels like the c5 calipers do. Also, having access to every performance pad made for Corvette is nice.

I traded ride/drives with a friend who has the Wilwood kit on his manual swapped vic, he was impressed with my brakes, I was....not super impressed with his. Might be something about master cylinder sizing, idk.

[Todd TCE]

There have been a number of changes over the past 15yrs to the "Wilwood" kits. Actually the TCE kits.

Today there are kits from Wilwood directly that are descendents of the TCE builds. This came about, as note above, due to the CV clip swap that became popular about ten years ago. Seems a number of the "big shops" and TV shows were rather discontent that to get a kit for their build they had to get it through me. Wilwood took note of that and we discussed it. In the end they took 13" and 14" kits using the FNSL6 and optional Aero6 kits from my listings but left me the "oe wheel fit" option as well as the larger 15" version. "That's not right!" you may scream and yeah I felt that way some of course. But. The good news is that the cost of those kits has been reduced quite a lot. (and availbale from me of course) so that's a plus for consumers. The other good news is that TCE remains the only source for the 14" FNSL6 kit that fits your stock wheels. (with or possibly w/o that super slim spacer)

Today TCE has extended the listings from 14" kits for the stock wheel to 14" Aero6 kits (now Wilwood) and 15" TCE kits as well as a couple of 16" kits we've produced as well. AND, the latest and last version of the rear kit is now a 14" FNSL4 version again; retaining the p-brake. *Note that YES the Wilwood factory 14" kits (both calipers) will fit your car. Just not your stock wheels, so if you make a change there....well it's an option.

If you have not checked out the options of late you should! TCE MARAUDER KITS (https://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/marauder/kits-17/)

TCE still offers the SS hose kit for the stock calipers as well as the C5 conversion too.

I could debate the pros and cons of all of the options listed but the reality is there's never been a 'one size fits all' when it comes to brake choices. I believe TCE/Wilwood based kits remain the best available for you car today just as they have been for many years. Cost more yes...but you get so much more for the money!

[adtaylor]

I echo what Todd stated in his post TCE/Wilwood based kits remain the best available for you car today just as they have been for many years. Cost more yes...but you get so much more for the money! and may I add confidence when you push on the big pedal to stop!
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[Peace2Peep]

I echo what Todd stated in his post TCE/Wilwood based kits remain the best available for you car today just as they have been for many years. Cost more yes...but you get so much more for the money! and may I add confidence when you push on the big pedal to stop!
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[lji372]

Thanks for the support fellas but without Zack this big brakes on a budget project would have never happened.
I have Baers on Taxi car and the budget setup on others, the braking is superior to stock.
The one with Wilwoods on 4 corners is superior but at a cost, thus the big brakes on a budget title.