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bluesboyst
11-30-2023, 03:09 PM
Hi.. I have a misfire but it's not enough to set a code...It only happens when I go into 3rd or overdrive and give a little throttle...if I give it more throttle it stops. I used to get this in my towncar and I would replace some of the ignition coil boots. I have done this in the Marauder but it it still there. I am going to try replacing the coils since they are original, 20 years old now.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Steve
03Merc
11-30-2023, 03:23 PM
Need a scan tool to read the cylinder contribution to find the mis. Try n get that done before replacing things. A mis could be injector, coil or spark plug. Even the wiring sometimes.
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FordNut
11-30-2023, 06:37 PM
I've had this happen, took it to the dealer for diagnostic. They told me which cylinder and I changed the coil myself. Fixed it. Quicker and cheaper that trial and error. Or you could just replace all 8, which will cost more than the diagnostic. Until it throws a code, handheld scan tool won't tell you which cylinder is intermittently missing.
bluesboyst
12-01-2023, 06:56 AM
My son owns a truck parts business and he has a very expensive 2000.00 scanner. That could not detect what cylinder.
03Merc
12-01-2023, 07:13 AM
My son owns a truck parts business and he has a very expensive 2000.00 scanner. That could not detect what cylinder.
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You need to drive it with somebody and they need to watch the values on the scanner, I used a snap on one to figure mine out.
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blazen71
12-01-2023, 09:57 AM
Linked incorrect coils
blazen71
12-01-2023, 09:58 AM
I believe you can also use the newer GT500 coils.
03Merc
12-01-2023, 10:04 AM
I believe you can also use the newer GT500 coils.
You posted a link for 2V coils...
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blazen71
12-01-2023, 02:46 PM
You posted a link for 2V coils...
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The nerve....
bluesboyst
12-10-2023, 06:56 AM
I went to a ford parts dealer here in Massachusetts Quirk Ford... For a genuine ford part they were only 51.80 per coil. Since all the coils in the car were 20 years old I bought eight of them. Problem solved. It was on the left side....what a difference.....
Brentster
01-01-2024, 07:46 AM
8pcs Ignition Coil DG512 & Motorcraft Spark Plug for Lincoln Navigator Blackwood | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/253445266802?fits=Year%3A2004% 7CEngine+-+Liter_Display%3A4.6L%7CTrim%3 ABase+Sedan+4-Door%7CModel%3AMarauder%7CMake %3AMercury%7CSubmodel%3ABase%7 CEngine%3A4.6L+281Cu.+In.+V8+G AS+DOHC+Naturally+Aspirated%7C Submodel%3ABase%7CEngine%3A4.6 L+281Cu.+In.+V8+GAS+DOHC+Natur ally+Aspirated&epid=14015403461&hash=item3b0283dd72:g:-eUAAOSwvYBhrl78&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABEIRCFY5Dk 6rqa5aJMThccrR4nAqoEzFubOV8i1v mUIfgaAi1ct9HI65RQEjzUch%2FSKS SZrpLz9BFhNfqP%2Fjt83zgOV8JbPF r4IBcVxXwWtB7xbuh%2BG2bSH%2B3r GiALuAv3N4LsE82WEZCXuSALLUitt2 1gUJ3SoCwMTPiJzdBeq8Q1sCxpxlCD wwn%2BJkoO8x67VVtquYxyc0p8pHJq l%2FUgdYBkCN37CbYwOnBEPQ87njdI kYJ%2F%2FBiAdp%2FrnPA1JhBO837p uH1EEtLkuPRgsMG3tXPZKk%2F1sHZP pYK35WB1%2B73kXXJLqSmx9eOfzlCH GnCz0gDAzTy3ezF6ZwJhjtsifT4y1I brPFOq2hTuryQW6or%7Ctkp%3ABFBM 9Ivd1Zhj)
Will these work on our Marauders? Are these Genuine Motorcraft Coils and Spark Plugs?
My Dealer last week quoted me a price of $63.00 for just 1 coil.
Brentster
01-01-2024, 08:28 AM
8+ Genuine Motorcraft Ignition Coil Pack DG512/543 4L7Z12029AB | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/191751456835?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=191751456835&targetid=4580771614374525&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=603418347&mkgroupid=1234752561360745&rlsatarget=pla-4580771614374525&abcId=9323204&merchantid=51291&msclkid=8c9c3f2fc1fa1fbe3ef45a bd162f568a) Ok, now I am confused, the above part number was 4L7Z12029AA, but I think this is the correct part number 4L7Z12029AB, any ideas?
Brentster
01-01-2024, 08:40 AM
All right I think I figured this out, the part number ending in AA is for the 5.4 Liter Ford Engine, and the part number ending in AB is for our 4.6 Liter Engines our Marauders. Big price difference between the 2 part numbers for a pack of 8 Ignition Coils.
BLACKMARAUDER04
01-08-2024, 06:35 PM
Those cost way too much. Order these M12029-4V. About $271 on Amazon.
TonyD
04-12-2024, 10:54 PM
53071has anyone been replacing the coil connectors. when I pull the coil covers so many of the wires are cooked so I have been swapping coil connectors and it usually works but on #4 it didn't now going to swap plugs back to motorcraft from ngk and going with the sp433x. what's the deal with .054 vs the .060gap says OEM is .054 and the platinum is .060. honestly I'm only going to swap 4 of them Sunday after church if they get delivered on time and I'll do drivers side on friday. I'll try to log in from my phone to post pics of crunchy wires on connectors
Lowndex
07-13-2024, 12:34 PM
I've had this happen, took it to the dealer for diagnostic. They told me which cylinder and I changed the coil myself. Fixed it. Quicker and cheaper that trial and error. Or you could just replace all 8, which will cost more than the diagnostic. Until it throws a code, handheld scan tool won't tell you which cylinder is intermittently missing.
Thank you, FordNut. This just happened to me. A handheld scanner detected intermittent misfire/code for three cylinders on the right side. I am pulling all eight plugs to send pics and the to Marty and Jeff (MOs Speed Shop). I will replace the NGT 4177 plugs (gapped at 0.027). If problem persists, I will do what Marty/Jeff states next.
I need to find a good Ford engine mechanic without using my judgement what 'good' is. I do not want to repeat my mistakes of the past.
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