cobra engine in mm?

[buckyboy]

ok, by the time im done with this site, ill be a certified gearhead. Untill then, excuse my dumb questions. The motor in the mm is based on the cobra engine, correct?..If so, which year cobra, and what are the main differences between the two motors? Thanks, steve

[MM03MOK]

It's not a Cobra motor. It's a Mach 1 motor and one difference between what goes in a Mach 1 and a Marauder is the intake.

[Logan]

Mach 1 and Aviator inherited the Marauder Motor, not the other way around. :D

Besides that, the Marauder motor is loosely based on the 01 cobra motor, except with a cast crank and rods, different cams and upper intake. Loosely enough that I'd suggest Marauder's Motor is just that, a Marauder motor.

The same motor was then used in the 03 Aviator with a different upper intake and cams, otherwise the same (Not counting accessory config).

The same motor was concurrently slated for use in 03 Mach 1, again with different upper intake and cam setup.

Mach 1 is the third vehicle to receive it's motor from Marauder.

[woaface]

Also, the cobra engine is iron block, the marauder is aluminum.

[Bluerauder]

ok, by the time im done with this site ... "...snip..." Thanks, steve
Done with this site?? I don't think that is possible ... too much good information, events, and meets happening everyday. :D

[buckyboy]

good point..:pimp:

[Logan]

Also, the cobra engine is iron block, the marauder is aluminum.
James, James, James... The 01 Cobra block, which the marauder is most closely related to is an aluminum block.

The 03 Cobra block is the first occurrence of a Iron block for the 4.6L 32v motor.

[buckyboy]

did they go with a iron block due to the adition of a s/c?
James, James, James... The 01 Cobra block, which the marauder is most closely related to is an aluminum block.

The 03 Cobra block is the first occurrence of a Iron block for the 4.6L 32v motor.

[BillyGman]

did they go with a iron block due to the adition of a s/c?I believe that's correct, since that was the same year that they also added forged pistons, and a forged crank. That was one of the reasons why I had originally decided against S/Cing my Marauder. But then I began to investigate the matter, and found out that the engine tuner who burns the chips for the Trilogy S/Cer kits for the Marauders has been tuning S/Ced 4.6L Mustangs w/cast pistons and cranks ever since the 4.6L engines first came out. His approach to performance tuning for his customers is conservative. And seeing is how there are dozens of Marauders S/Ced by Trilogy Motorsports kits, as well as dozens S/Ced w/Dennis Reinharts kits w/out any reports of blown engines, that changed my mind. It's all in the tune.

[Logan]

Yes, the Iron block was a result of Ford grenading the motors with aluminum blocks.

[woaface]

Oh...:o Well, I've got to learn this somehow! Sorry.

[woaface]

Oh... Well, I've got to learn this somehow! Sorry.:o :o :o

[David Morton]

I met a guy at Starbucks the second week I had my Marauder. He was out there in the parking lot fixing to touch it (!) and I went out there to stop him but he instead looked at me and said, "Hey, man! Is that your Marauder! I said yes and he proceeded to gush all over about the car. Then he showed me his '04 Cobra. He said he worked for the local Fords dealership and he knew all about the Cobra, Supercharged, 9 to 1 compression, and he had some aftermarket air induction installed, I think it was a K&N conical. Said he runs on 93 octane pump gas. Didn't mention any iron block, isn't that heavy?

Some other guy asked what my engine was, he said it was a 4.6L SOHC. I had to correct him.

I hope I run into the guy after I get the Trilogy.

[studio460]

ok, by the time im done with this site, ill be a certified gearhead. Untill then, excuse my dumb questions. The motor in the mm is based on the cobra engine, correct?..If so, which year cobra, and what are the main differences between the two motors? Thanks, steveFYI: At least a couple here have dropped Cobra engines in their Marauders for the beefed up internals and iron block. A couple have done the VT stroker kit too. Paul's High Performance dropped a Cobra engine and, I believe, a 6-speed Tremec manual transmission in his heavily modded Marauder (an approx. $20K upgrade!). There's pictures and a thread about it here SOMEWHERE on the site!

[Warpath]

...01 cobra motor, except with a cast crank and rods...
All 96 - 01 Cobra rods are powdered metal and not cast. There is a good article in Muscle Mustand & Fast Fords detailing all the differences in these engines over the years. The title of the article is Modular Mix & Match Part 2 (Part 1 is SOHC). I don't remember when it came out thought. It was a while ago. I checked their website and only found part one. I'm sure there are other websites giving the same details. Here's what I know from memory (so take it with a grain of salt):

96-98 Cobras
Cast aluminum (hypereutectic) pistons (around 10:1)
Powdered metal rods
Forged crank
Aluminum block and heads
Dual runner intake

99 & 01 Cobras (no 02s built)
Same as 96-98 except:
Single runner intake

03 Cobra (blown)
Cast iron block
Forged Manly rods
Forged aluminum pistons (8.5:1)
Roots type blower and intercooler intake
New cams
New aluminum heads I think

Aviator, Mach 1, & MM
Same as 01 Cobra except:
Same cams and heads as 03 Cobra
I think each has a different intake
Automatics have cast crank
Manuals I believe get forged crank

There may be small differences between engines that I am not aware of such as different cooling lines or exhaust port changes. So, my list is not absolute. But, it should give you an idea. Let me know if I am incorrect.