View Full Version : Dead Pedal suggestions....
FiveO
07-19-2004, 04:20 PM
Hey gang...
I'm seriously contemplating a dead pedal.
I have the Dyno Pro dead pedal that came as part of the set but after looking at it I can say that I personally think its waaaay too small.
I'm 6'6" and 235 and have size 13.5 feet...so I can really put some weight into cornering a car...and I believe I need a large dead pedal.
I found this bad boy online...
http://www.sharkracing.com/in/hyundai/deadpedal.html
http://www.sharkracing.com/images/interior/deadpedal.jpg
Any other thoughts? I'm going to come up with an absolutely rock solid mount for this thing...remember....the weight :D
I may call Kenny Brown to see of their mounts are still available but I'm thinking a custom done one might be the way to go.
Any other ideas?
BruteForce
07-19-2004, 04:25 PM
never mind - didn't read all your post before replying...
SouLRioT
07-19-2004, 04:38 PM
Five-0, The Dynopro pedal was made to go on the kenny brown dead pedal. The reason it is that size is because thats the size of KB's. What some of our taller members have done is mount the KB dead pedal further back. But by all means if you wanted to go with the larger pedal cover go for it.
frdwrnch
07-21-2004, 06:30 PM
I made mine out of a Ford Escort accellerator pedal. It was 10 mm cold rolled steel rod. I inverted it and welded it to the front of the left rocker panel. There are pics of it somewhere in the gallery or archives. Think twice about having a non-collapsable platform for your dead pedal. In the unlikely event of an accident if you are firmly planted on that dead pedal and it has no give it could possibly shatter your leg bone. This was brought to my attention by a friend that specializes in driver safety systems for NASCAR and IHRA. The Escort pedal is strong enough that I can stand on it, but it flexes a little when I do. Good luck.
MarauderTJA
07-21-2004, 07:16 PM
Hey gang...
I'm seriously contemplating a dead pedal.
I have the Dyno Pro dead pedal that came as part of the set but after looking at it I can say that I personally think its waaaay too small.
I'm 6'6" and 235 and have size 13.5 feet...so I can really put some weight into cornering a car...and I believe I need a large dead pedal.
I found this bad boy online...
http://www.sharkracing.com/in/hyundai/deadpedal.html
http://www.sharkracing.com/images/interior/deadpedal.jpg
Any other thoughts? I'm going to come up with an absolutely rock solid mount for this thing...remember....the weight :D
I may call Kenny Brown to see of their mounts are still available but I'm thinking a custom done one might be the way to go.
Any other ideas?Just orded my dead pedal today from Kenny Brown. I spoke with them and inquired n the size (in comparison with my 01 GT Mustang) and they stated it was larger. Give them a call and check it out.
Tom, Cape Coral, Florida U.S.A.
CRUZTAKER
07-21-2004, 08:12 PM
Buy an MV-II Rafle ticket...and WIN one!:up:
FiveO
07-21-2004, 09:10 PM
Appreciate the info on KB...but I won a Momo Dead pedal on eBay and am going to have it installed....custom job.
Link to the win:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7911123159&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT
Might see if KB has the bracket available...
Bigdogjim
07-21-2004, 09:59 PM
Hey gang...
I'm seriously contemplating a dead pedal.
I'm 6'6" and 235 and have size 13.5 feet...so I can really put some weight into cornering a car...and I believe I need a large dead pedal.
Any other ideas?
Yes I have an idea. Sit in a marauder with a dead pedal first! I am 6'6' and it would cut off too much NEEDED leg room.
I'm 6'6" and 235 and have size 13.5 feet...so I can really put some weight into cornering a car...and I believe I need a large dead pedal.
Any other ideas?
you don't need a dead pedal, they are not intended as an accessory for people of your stature. add one if you want the bling, but it serves no real, or useful purpose in your situation. Your left foot can reach the floorboard of a panther frame vehicle.
a true dead pedal on a panther frame provides support for a driver's left leg which he can use to control his body's tendency to "flap around" in hard cornering and sudden changes in vehicle dymanics. it's not just a foot rest.
Someone mentioned how a dead pedal is a liability in collisions, that it can cause injury to the driver's legs. this is true in theory, it looks that way, but it's not true in reality, in practice. real world results of having a dead pedal installed and used correctly show quite different stats because with a dead pedal in place, and used as intended, the driver now has support that he can use to correct, or, prevent the sudden movement of his body against the door or center console, and keep his arms free to control the car.
you don't just bolt one in place, you have to learn how to use it and teach your body how to rely on it once it is in place, therefore, flexible pedals are conunterproductive. it's not just a foot rest, it's a sophiscated safety feature with years of design and testing behind it.
the point is, is that when a dead pedal is present and used as intended, the likehood of a collision from an out of control car is greatly reduced and no collision is no injury at all.
in high speed collisions, you're screwed with or without a dead pedal. in collisions where dead pedals are in place and used correctly can result in knee or hip injuries on the driver's left side. collisions where no dead pedal is in place usually result in ankle, head, neck, arm, shoulder and knee injuries on to both the driver's left and right sides. controlling the vehicle is the ultimate goal here, and your only option to a dead pedal, is a six point harness that straps the driver into his seat, leaving both arms and legs free to control the vehicle.
injury seems unavoidable in a "driver to driver" collision, 30-50 mph but the collision is not unavoidable. stabilize the driver's seating and the collision may not occur. it's not just a foot rest, think about that.
FiveO
07-26-2004, 09:15 PM
Hmmm..... M-75 has probably never driven a Panther class vehicle in high speed cornering and other heavy manuevers before. And he's definitely not my size.... 6'6" / 230.
I will love a dead pedal. Could have used one during my patrol days.
Won this off of eBay....
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL283/1552930/2969142/61353957.jpg
Should be installed by the end of the week. Its 9" tall and 3.5 inches wide at the bottom. One big pedal.
Needed something my size 13's could dig into!
SouLRioT
07-27-2004, 05:19 AM
Did you get the KB dead pedal as well, or are you going to make something up to mount it to?
FiveO
07-27-2004, 06:36 AM
I'm going to have a custom mount made.
Pics to come later this week.
Svashtar
08-02-2004, 03:56 PM
I just installed the KB Dead pedal yesterday, and surprised myself by doing it in just 40 minutes or so, thanks to great directions by a couple of MM forum members. One note that I know has been mentioned, the template holes are too close together. Use the KB template and add about 3/16 to the distance to the bottom hole. KB has been told about this but still seems to be sending out the old template for some reason. OR just drill the top hole 1/4" and the bottom 3/8" or so and you'll be OK as the bracket will cover up the larger hole.
Back to usage: I disagree that if you are tall the firewall serves as an effective DP, because the feel and support I get from carpeting is in no way as firm as the DP surface. To me, the ideal DP would be large integral rubber pad mounted right to the frame on the firewall.
Now I am 6'8" and over 300 lbs., and I have seen other people mention height as a factor, but we should not be considering height but inseam. I have a very tall sitting height, but that is irrelevant to the use of the DP. I have a 34" inseam which is relevant.
If I could redesign the KB pedal it would be simply to add an alternate set of holes in the KB hood release bracket 2" further back on the bracket. You could have the standard "near" holes for guys with "normal" length legs and the far holes to longer legged people. I could take it out and drill two alternate holes and use self tapping screws, but am not sure it would be worth the trouble as I already seem to be getting used to it, and contrary to what someone said it IS on an equal height to the brake pedal when that pedal is all the way in the "pedal down" position; I would just like it a bit further back.
As it is, I don't think it is a waste even with my long legs. I can ride the DP and it is confortable when cornering or on long rides, but I also have room underneath it where my foot used to ride on the firewall if I want to stretch my left leg a bit, so in essence I have the best of both worlds. FYI, I have also found that tilting the seat front up about 1" makes my riding the pedal more comfortable.
Just my .02¢ worth, and thanks to Piglet and others for the great install info!
Regards,
Norm
Bradley G
10-26-2005, 05:21 AM
Looking back on an old thread!
hey Norm!
who's piglet?
I just installed the KB Dead pedal yesterday, and surprised myself by doing it in just 40 minutes or so, thanks to great directions by a couple of MM forum members. One note that I know has been mentioned, the template holes are too close together. Use the KB template and add about 3/16 to the distance to the bottom hole. KB has been told about this but still seems to be sending out the old template for some reason. OR just drill the top hole 1/4" and the bottom 3/8" or so and you'll be OK as the bracket will cover up the larger hole.
Back to usage: I disagree that if you are tall the firewall serves as an effective DP, because the feel and support I get from carpeting is in no way as firm as the DP surface. To me, the ideal DP would be large integral rubber pad mounted right to the frame on the firewall.
Now I am 6'8" and over 300 lbs., and I have seen other people mention height as a factor, but we should not be considering height but inseam. I have a very tall sitting height, but that is irrelevant to the use of the DP. I have a 34" inseam which is relevant.
If I could redesign the KB pedal it would be simply to add an alternate set of holes in the KB hood release bracket 2" further back on the bracket. You could have the standard "near" holes for guys with "normal" length legs and the far holes to longer legged people. I could take it out and drill two alternate holes and use self tapping screws, but am not sure it would be worth the trouble as I already seem to be getting used to it, and contrary to what someone said it IS on an equal height to the brake pedal when that pedal is all the way in the "pedal down" position; I would just like it a bit further back.
As it is, I don't think it is a waste even with my long legs. I can ride the DP and it is confortable when cornering or on long rides, but I also have room underneath it where my foot used to ride on the firewall if I want to stretch my left leg a bit, so in essence I have the best of both worlds. FYI, I have also found that tilting the seat front up about 1" makes my riding the pedal more comfortable.
Just my .02¢ worth, and thanks to Piglet and others for the great install info!
Regards,
Norm
MM03MOK
10-26-2005, 05:54 AM
Looking back on an old thread!
hey Norm!
who's piglet?Here's Piglet!! He's holding my flag I sent him while he was deployed in the Middle East 2 years ago. He carried my flag on every mission he flew. Old Glory flew in Iraq, Kuwait, Sicily, Liberia, Sierra Leone and the US; steamed through 14 waterways including the Arabian, Mediterranean and Red Seas; and visited 7 warships. A very touching momento and memory for me. MM.Net Members helped Piglet during his deployment with bundles to brighten his days during the very early part of our military efforts.
:flag: God Bless Piglet and all our Armed Forces, both here and Abroad. :flag:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/467Piglet_07s.jpg
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/member.php?u=192
Svashtar
10-28-2005, 06:35 PM
Cool! I wondered where he went...
FYI, on the original subject, I ended up redrilling the holes and dropping the dead pedal down almost 2 " towards the floor. Made all the difference in the world as far as comfort was concerned.
N.
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