NO Reserve Marauder on ebay

[jaywish]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2487669990&category=6882

I'm interested in watching this one as there is no reserve.

As the old saying goes money talks and you know what walks on this one.

You don't see many no reseve auctions on Marauders.
I can't remember one in at least 6 months.

Looks like a nice car.

So far it's only $100.

Jay

[RCSignals]

Watch it for shill bidders

[chrish]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2487669990&category=6882

I'm interested in watching this one as there is no reserve.

As the old saying goes money talks and you know what walks on this one.

You don't see many no reseve auctions on Marauders.
I can't remember one in at least 6 months.

Looks like a nice car.

So far it's only $100.

Jay
I've called & watched some of these with NO RESERVE that doesn't meen thay will take any thing at the end of the auction.. it does usually make for alively auction thogh..AY :fishing:

[SergntMac]

You mean to say that if the winning bid comes in at a reasonable price, say 18,000. for this car, the seller doesn't have to take the offer?

[Logan]

According to Ebay's policies, they absolutely do have to sell it if it's got no reserve, even if it goes for $200.

[martyo]

According to Ebay's policies, they absolutely do have to sell it if it's got no reserve, even if it goes for $200.


Simply put, an offer and a bid is a contract.

[RCSignals]

Supposed to be a contract anyway. They are broken all the time on eBay.
Often in an auction such as this, if the seller doesn't get what he wants, he'll just end the auction early.

[martyo]

Well, I am the high bidder so hopefully no one here will bid against me.

[Krytin]

Well, I am the high bidder so hopefully no one here will bid against me.
I was considering it - but now I won't, unless you want to go half on it & be part owner on a project car?!!

[RCSignals]

Well, I am the high bidder so hopefully no one here will bid against me.

Are you dansenander? :popcorn:

[duhtroll]

If the seller reneges it will only cost him one negative feedback point - no biggie. There is very little enforcement with ebay.

If he takes your money and then reneges, however, then you can get something done about it.

-A

[SergntMac]

Ahhh...I see it now, last line in the text says "I'll end this auction if I find a buyer in AZ." So, that's his way out, eh?

I was thinking of bidding what I think the car is worth IMHO, considering it's possible condition and transportation costs. It is a 300A afterall, and worth much more that the 355. presently bid.

Would I be wrong to just bid 18K and wait 9 days?

[martyo]

Would I be wrong to just bid 18K and wait 9 days?

No, but if you are going to do that, let me know so I am can step out of your way. :run: No sense in the two of us killing each other over this and right now I am back to being the high bidder.

[JerseyVics]

if you guys don't mind, I'll take it.

thank you,

--Russ ;)

[martyo]

Ahhh...I see it now, last line in the text says "I'll end this auction if I find a buyer in AZ." So, that's his way out, eh?

Sure looks that way.

If one of us is the high bidder, he better be prepared to show me the pink slip going over to a fellow in AZ. Otherwise, I will bring an action in the Federela Court here in New York. I smell "test case."

The way I look at this, I could be a winner either way!

[Bigdogjim]

Ahhh...
Would I be wrong to just bid 18K and wait 9 days?

No! Hold off till hours before the auction ends and start bidding. No sense driving up the price this far out?

[SergntMac]

Well, it looks like one of the bidders has some automatic bid thingy going on, so, not much use in peeking in on this auction for a few days.

[jgc61sr2002]

IMO Most people who have no reserve on an item have people to up the bid (a shill). They are hard to detect but they are out there. We will have to wait and see.

[chrish]

Sure looks that way.

If one of us is the high bidder, he better be prepared to show me the pink slip going over to a fellow in AZ. Otherwise, I will bring an action in the Federela Court here in New York. I smell "test case."

The way I look at this, I could be a winner either way!
E-bay has been around for some years now......Fame, fortune, & F..in someone has been tried before.. this would not be ground breaking litigation if that is the motive......E-bay on vehicles is generaly a joke...... any dealer goes to other web sights for sale of vehicles....... E-Bay is good for cheap stuff[junk] and as advertising for bigger stuff.
let me ask you members have you ever bought anything of the magnatude of a car on e-bay.. [not a beater , or HARD to find car or object] ?Probably NOT.. :uzi: :hankie:

[SergntMac]

OTOH...Got a story for y'all from my real time.

Sorry Zack, didn't get time to preview this with y'all by PM, or, e-mail before spilling the beans. All that back channel BS is silly nonsense anyway...

So...A few months ago, Zack and I go to a local auto auction, a parking lot of used cars up for highest bid. This was "e-bay, in your face." 50 some cars up for auction, with 200 some bidders on hand, and we are clearly out of our league here...Newbies to them, who have been doing this for years, and making good money at it too.

While I evaluate the foot traffic, Zack spies a car we both liked, a '90-ish white Town Car. We watched the bidding "furry and fluster" around us for about 20 cars, when this car came up. Much like this e-bay Marauder, the bidding was slow at first, but in F2F mode, it gets heated with confrontation, name calling, bravo, bravado, macho, chumping, and all that nonsense. However, Zack wanted this car, and I was tired of standing around the open zippers, so, we agreed to bid what we thought the car was worth, within the limits of cash we carried in our pockets.

No one around us liked what we bid, but we bet our max on the second hammer, and Zack drove that Lincoln home. We got called stuff y'all never heard before, (I never did that with my mother). But, we took this auction car home, and for the price we agreed it was worth. Turned out to be a real steal too, 1500 bucks under the lowest blue book value we could find on it. IMHO, with minimal investment in detailing to meet market expectations, we could earn another 1500 bucks on top of that auction, and turn it all around and venture back into the auto auction market again, with more 1500 bucks more buying power.

Sadly, Zack likes his Town Car too much to roll it over for profit, and I have to agree, it's one sweet Lincoln. Maybe a "hot rod Lincoln" someday.

So...Working against me here, is my life's experience, and my motto...and the value of holding my "put up, or, shut up" disposition close to my chest. This '90-ish Town Car had a value to me that I would meet, but not exceed. And, this is how I view this e-bay MM auction.

Any e-bay seller has a price in mind that he wants to get. If I want his stuff, I must respect what I will pay for that...What my cost will be, and not exceeded.

In a perfect world, we meet at 18 large, on this e-bay MM.

So...Do I bid day "buy" day? Or, just throw my limit out there for the 11th hour crunch?

I'd buy this MM right now for 18K, and not a penny more. But, it's e-bay too...What?

[martyo]

So...Do I bid day "buy" day? Or, just throw my limit out there in the 11the hour? I'd buy this MM right now for 18K, and not a penny more. But, it's e-bay...What?

If you do this, the price will not jump up to that amount but will only move in increments as others bid against you, unless some other person has likewise entered a higher bid. That's why it appears that someone is using a computer program to bid against you at this stage.

[Slowpoke]

they'res a lot of big ticket items that sell on eBay. Don't kid yourself... it's not just Beanie Babies and old vinyl LP's...

[chrish]

they'res a lot of big ticket items that sell on eBay. Don't kid yourself... it's not just Beanie Babies and old vinyl LP's...
Hard to find stuff........ :popcorn:

[duhtroll]

Some advice from an ebay "pro:"

Wait 'til the last minute, (or "snipe" the auction, as it were) for a couple reasons. It might just be cheaper for the reasons above/if people don't bid much, and giving people less time to bid after yours (as you did in your FTF auction) is always a good idea. If nothing else you find out right away whether or not you won, and don't have to keep watching the auction after your bid.

You are only bidding what you think it's worth, so it *shouldn't* matter when you bid, but it does. Online bidders tend to get frantic when they think they are going to lose something and then they overbid just to win, regardless of how much they wanted to spend. I've seen it in lots of stuff that I've sold. No offense to anyone here, but younger buyers always get me the most $. I had two teenage kids wanting the same item and the bidding skyrocketed to ten times what the best value for my item ever was - all in the last 5 minutes of the auction. "Winning" is a motivation that benefits only the seller.

This next part doesn't work for autos, but I always try to find the lowest "buy it now" price, because they will usually be a bargain compared to retail. The auctions look deceptively low, and almost every time the final price of those auctions are higher than what I paid for my "buy it now." Also, I didn't have to wait 5 more days to get mine - it had already arrived in the mail by the time the regular auction was over.

-A
Sniper Extraordinaire

[Bigdogjim]

Know this...............

Last year on E-bay a little over 550,000 cars traded hands!!

Thats a little over 1/2 million cars, trucks, mini-vans, SVU etc............

Picture a Dealer selling any where near that?

[chrish]

Know this...............

Last year on E-bay a little over 550,000 cars traded hands!!

Thats a little over 1/2 million cars, trucks, mini-vans, SVU etc............

Picture a Dealer selling any where near that?
I have the Austin TX. [fairly smal metro area] Book of lists from 2003...the 25 largest car dealers in town added together sold; over104,000 vehicles.. half a million cars is a lot but it is peanuts on the over all spectrum... Honda sold more civics than e- bay sold...CARS, trucks,beaters,recks,motorcycl es,etc.,etc,.etc....

[martyo]

Picture a Dealer selling any where near that?

Excellent point!!! :2thumbs:

[chrish]

Has anyone ever bought a car off e-bay.. if so, what was the transaction..? :cowboy:

[FiveO]

Bought a 1995 Cobra off of eBay from a guy in Atlanta. Flew down there, drove it back. Clean car.

Great transaction.

I did the bidding for my father...he has it in storage right now.

[FiveO]

We should start a thread and bet on how much this thing'll go for at the end :)

[RCSignals]

No one is using a computer program to bid. They've just made thier maximum bid, and eBay automatically bids for them until it reaches his maximum bid. Just as it would for Mac if he bid a straight $18,000.

Andrew is right. The days of continually bidding on an item (in most cases) on eBay is gone. Wait until the end, and if you can't be at your computer at the end use a service such as Vrane. http://vrane.com

also, the guy gives his name in the auction, probably so someone will contact him by telephone and make a deal off eBay

[RCSignals]

Know this...............

Last year on E-bay a little over 550,000 cars traded hands!!

Thats a little over 1/2 million cars, trucks, mini-vans, SVU etc............

Picture a Dealer selling any where near that?


Jim, do you know if that is listed on eBay, or actually sold on eBay?

There are a lot of cars listed that do not seem to sell.

[mad man]

What about the one that was stolen. It looks like it can be put together . Or made into a race car :popcorn:

[SergntMac]

We should start a thread and bet on how much this thing'll go for at the end :)
What's the matter with this one?

[427435]

I'm sure the seller has a shill that will bid to an adequate price late in the auction, if the auction doesn't get there on its own. Other than the e-bay fees, the seller isn't at any risk of having to sell it below what he's willing to sell it for.

[FiveO]

What's the matter with this one?


Nothing....but its not a "poll" style.

[MM03MOK]

Big jump overnight: $14,200.00

[jaywish]

Hi Mac,

Just a thought. If you do bid on the car you may want to consider adding an extra few $. As opposed to a flat figure of any kind.

Jay

[bugsys03]

Did you notice if you win you make payment to someone in Niles,IL??

[jgc61sr2002]

Up to $ 15,089. 6 days left.

[Macon Marauder]

27 bids and up to $27,500.
Less than 4 hours left...

[martyo]

27 bids and up to $27,500.
Less than 4 hours left...

At that price, I am out of the running.

[MM03MOK]

27 bids and up to $27,500.
Less than 4 hours left...Ahh, no? $17,500

[Macon Marauder]

Sorry! Typo on my part. Too much allergy med I reckon...
:(

[MM03MOK]

Sorry! Typo on my part. Too much allergy med I reckon...
:(I know the feeling!! :depress:

You just wanted to throw Marty off the trail.

[cyclone03]

Short reply to Mac and Zacks auction ex...

Few years ago I started going to repo and police auctions with a friend.He just needed another set of eyes to look at the available lots...

The heavy hitters,dealers,did grumble about the newbees.
The first few months he did the same as M&Z first was his only bid,he set his max and that was it.Then he tried playing the game,bid,bid,bid he found that WINNING became the goal and he,later,felt he endded up overpaying.He went back to his old plan.

on EBay, you set you max bid and your bid will increase to your max by a set amount,say$100,until your max is met.
So if you really wanted something you could bid it up to whatever,if nobodyelse pushed over you you win.
Of course somebody could screw you up by pushing up their bid then retracting it to find what you max is.More than likely thats illegal but you don't want to overpay for your dicasts do you?

[Amsoil_Dealer]

That is a heck of a good deal. If it were silver I might have even bid at that level.

Don

[jaywish]

I was hopeing it would have gone for more and I guess the owner felt that way also.

It sure looks like someone got a great deal.

Jay

[SHERIFF]

Did you notice if you win you make payment to someone in Niles,IL??


To me, that's very disturbing. Car is in Arizona? Payment goes to Illinois?

[MERCMAN]

To me, that's very disturbing. Car is in Arizona? Payment goes to Illinois?


Divorce settlement perhaps???

[427435]

There's something else strange. The winning bidder put his bid in on 8/25. The second highest bidder had 3 high bids in a row on 8/28. Another bidder bid on 8/24 but the winning bidder's 8/25 bid didn't over-ride it until the last day of bidding!!! :loco:

I bet we see that car on e-bay again--------the last 3 digits of the VIN were 835.