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Mike Poore
09-10-2004, 05:28 AM
This is from a headline on Blue Oval News, superd take note:

We are now stating for a FACTUAL matter that Ford has ordered assembly plants to stop shipping 2005 model year vehicles due to defective 4.6L and 5.4L engines.
Defective Engines Prompt Ford To Order Stop Shipment Of 2005 Mustang GT, Expeditions And Trucks (http://www.blueovalnews.com/2004/plants/engines.defective07sept04.htm) . Ford GT "40" Alleged To Have Defective Cylinder Heads (http://www.blueovalnews.com/2004/plants/engines.defective07sept04.htm) .
07 Sept 04. BON. Robert Lane.
Updated 08 Sept 04.

03SILVERSTREAK
09-10-2004, 06:17 AM
This is from a headline on Blue Oval News, superd take note:

We are now stating for a FACTUAL matter that Ford has ordered assembly plants to stop shipping 2005 model year vehicles due to defective 4.6L and 5.4L engines.
Defective Engines Prompt Ford To Order Stop Shipment Of 2005 Mustang GT, Expeditions And Trucks (http://www.blueovalnews.com/2004/plants/engines.defective07sept04.htm) . Ford GT "40" Alleged To Have Defective Cylinder Heads (http://www.blueovalnews.com/2004/plants/engines.defective07sept04.htm) .
07 Sept 04. BON. Robert Lane.
Updated 08 Sept 04.I believe this includes some of us that are having head problems as well ...:sweat:

Joe Walsh
09-10-2004, 06:28 AM
Oh Great!!! Ford's 'flagship' GT has defective cylinder heads....what's next, defective tires on the GT that blowout at 165 mph??? I better sell my Ford stock soon...those bone heads can't get anything right the past few years.

TripleTransAm
09-10-2004, 06:48 AM
Looks like they haven't learned anything in the past few years, considering all the crap we went through with the ticking valve guides due to bad cylinder head design. Seems to me they should stop throwing money at exotic (re)designs and just learn to build a solid car in a reliable repeatable fashion.

Joe Walsh
09-10-2004, 06:59 AM
Looks like they haven't learned anything in the past few years, considering all the crap we went through with the ticking valve guides due to bad cylinder head design. Seems to me they should stop throwing money at exotic (re)designs and just learn to build a solid car in a reliable repeatable fashion.

AMEN!!!!
But make that a "solid RWD car" with some 'cojones' under the hood.

GordonB
09-10-2004, 08:07 AM
To all,
Does this cylinder head issue have anything to due with the revised engines with 3-Valve/SOHC heads going into the 2005 Mustang, F150, Navigator, etc? The 3-valve, SOHC is supposed to be the Stock/Std engine as a V-8 this year is much of the FORD lineup, but it is not generally ballyhooed in the press or even here.

GordonB

Marauder386
09-10-2004, 08:46 AM
There is also a gas tank issue of leakage on '04 F150's...trying to locate the link...film at eleven....


M386

rayjay
09-10-2004, 01:18 PM
This may give our members with bad heads some ammo, but the 05 engines are a three valve design, not four. I think it will depend on what the exact problem is.

Silver_04
09-10-2004, 02:16 PM
If I remember correctly Ford stopped production of the 4V's back in '03 because the Cobras and Lincoln Aviators were having trouble. No mention was made of the Marauder or Mach 1 which I found odd. I'll see if I can dig up the article.

Typically I don't think much of Blue Oval News but after reading that article all I gotta say is Judas Priest Ford...what on earth has happened? And people wonder why market share evaporates. Quality is Job #2...and they keep stepping in it.

JohnE
09-10-2004, 03:20 PM
IIRC, all but the Ford GT(40) are 3V heads.


Now how would you like to have dropped $150k on a car after waiting for months to purchase, then have to fight for a defect to be fixed.... And then do you really trust your local dealership to rebuild a hand-built engine?

At least the Mustangs were stopped in time.

Fast4Door
09-10-2004, 05:21 PM
Do you guys believe everything you read?

It wouldn't be on the internet if it wasn't true, I guess. Considering the "fact" that they have the "info" on this problem, I am wondering why the only details they provide are that the heads are "defective." I usually read BON for the laughs.

Try this experiment: The next time you are in the grocery store checkout, grab a copy of "The Enquirer" and pick a story at random. Read it. Sounds the same. The "I was kidnapped by Bigfoot" stories usually are better than this nonsense.

When they come up with some real facts, we'll see. Not that I need BON to get my info about goings on at Ford...

Silver_04
09-10-2004, 06:46 PM
Do you guys believe everything you read?

It wouldn't be on the internet if it wasn't true, I guess. Considering the "fact" that they have the "info" on this problem, I am wondering why the only details they provide are that the heads are "defective." I usually read BON for the laughs.

Try this experiment: The next time you are in the grocery store checkout, grab a copy of "The Enquirer" and pick a story at random. Read it. Sounds the same. The "I was kidnapped by Bigfoot" stories usually are better than this nonsense.

When they come up with some real facts, we'll see. Not that I need BON to get my info about goings on at Ford...

Seeing how many people here have had cylinder head problems on Marauders and given the 8 trips my Marauder made to the dealer for repairs in the first three months and all of the problems I had with my '01 Focus and '02 Mustang GT, yeah this news isn't too hard to believe. Regardless, my mind is made up: I don't shop the Blew Oval anymore. :shake:

RCSignals
09-10-2004, 08:37 PM
As I understand, it is the 3-valve heads, and it's not a cylinder head problem, it's a part supplier problem.
But any chance they get BON will show only one side of a Ford issue, mostly with an anti-Ford slant

TripleTransAm
09-11-2004, 05:11 AM
As I understand, it is the 3-valve heads, and it's not a cylinder head problem, it's a part supplier problem.


Ahh. That would make me feel MUCH better, if I was an owner of one of the vehicles affected by this supplier problem. :up:

BlueOvalNews... I guess they have to maintain their sensationalistic approach in order to keep generating interest on the site. As with all internet stories, you can take it with a grain of e-salt but the wise reader researches more thoroughly. At least there is that initial grain of information to work with...

All I can say is that the BON web site got me a cylinder head replacement of the new casting, whereas if I had let Ford run the show I would have simply been given the same part number as what was on the car from factory. No thanks, just because I drive a 'Grand Marquis' doesn't make me any less of a discerning customer.

RCSignals
09-12-2004, 12:55 AM
Here is BONs revised wording fortheir "article"

We are stating for a FACTUAL matter that Ford has ordered assembly plants to stop shipping 2005 model year vehicles due to defective 4.6L and 5.4L engines.

At this time, we are only ALLEGING that the GT "40" heads are defective.

Our usage of FACTUAL in this article has a lot to say about our confidence in publishing the material. Should Ford wish to challenge us, they certainly know our address.

In short, by getting this information to consumers, we are letting Ford know that we do not want another engine horsepower controversy.

You decide what "factual" and "alleging" mean

nexstar7
09-12-2004, 07:12 PM
so what are the affects of the bad heads? i have a bunch of problems being taken cared of this week on my car. maybe its do to the heads. i got idle problem, sluggish responce and black tail pipe ends.