What's Marauder Top Speed?

[swampfox44]

What's top speed of '03 300A Stock?And with SCT 1725 tuner?Saw 120 Stock and seemed to let up at 120 again after tuner install.Any comments? :cowboy:

[Dan]

I have had mine up to a legitimate 137.5 as measured by a GPS tracking device which was given enough time to ge an accurate reading. This was done, of course, on a private track that I have access to and late at night so as to minimize spectating.

Mine is an 03 300 B.

On a subsequent run I buried the speedo but also got a crazy driveshaft vibe. My guess is that 140 is the true top speed without a power adder.

-Dan

[Bradley G]

It seems no one without without a private track wants to say. I've only had it to 125 thats of course also on a private track,;)

[Marauderman]

I have had mine up to a legitimate 137.5 as measured by a GPS tracking device which was given enough time to ge an accurate reading. This was done, of course, on a private track that I have access to and late at night so as to minimize spectating.

Mine is an 03 300 B.

On a subsequent run I buried the speedo but also got a crazy driveshaft vibe. My guess is that 140 is the true top speed without a power adder.

-Dan
............well....after seeing BUTCH's car , bone stock , with 270 miles dyno at 270 (hummmmm- but true) anything is possible--so what DAN says is also possible I suppose--but mine stock was 123 and after stage I was 133 and then came mod to the shaft and the S/C'er..and now ....well,,,,lets just say there is no light at the end now...there is no more numbers to read...........Tom

[swampfox44]

Yes,I have a private stretch of fresh smooth asphalt that is not yet open to public and is accessed only by law enforcement for now.Haven't hit a "hard" feeling speed limiter yet,just feels like it lets up about 120,but,I am running in overdrive.Should I be trying with O.D. off?Had a Mustang that would just plain get in OD.

[Marauderman]

Yes,I have a private stretch of fresh smooth asphalt that is not yet open to public and is accessed only by law enforcement for now.
.....huh..just what I have--just by my house--a new 2 mile straight stretch of un-open interstate --not open till the 20th---measured by my LEO buddy with his CV PI--which only topped out at 133 before it pooped out......( for those with inquiring minds).........cause I know you were wondering--where'd he do that??..varooooom........Tom

[Dan]

I go w. OD off to about 120 and then let OD go to work.

[jspradii]

142 in OD with 4:10 gears.

[Dan]

Ahh, I forgot to mention that I have the stock gears. I think that they are 3.55:1.

-dan

[jspradii]

I was pushing 6000 rpm with the 4:10's. A higher gear would pull a few more mph out of it if I could ever find roadway or track that could handle the speed.

[GodOSpeed]

Stock your Marauder should do 125 with the od off. 117 with it on. Take the speed limiter out and it'll bury it. :rock: no****it.

[04MEMA]

I'm reading about all this high speed private track testing and wondering how a Marauder feels at 120 or 140 for that matter. Anyone care to comment? I seem to recall a post that said a Marauder did over 160 at indy? I would think the banking would make the car handle sweet at high speed.

Jeff

[GodOSpeed]

It handles like a deam @ speed. 4200lb car, 50 series skins, wind tunnel tested body. You do the math. I mean NO VIBRATION OF ANY KIND! If it was affordable to ship one of these puppies to Germany I'd Do high triples ALL DAY!

[Ka-Pow]

While cimbing a slight incline in Ky with all three lanes vacant, wot this puppy shifts to OD at 125.

[Bradley G]

Welcome Ka-pow, hey, that's better than downhill with a tailwind in ......well, You Know!!:burnout:
While cimbing a slight incline in Ky with all three lanes vacant, wot this puppy shifts to OD at 125.

[Krytin]

stock program, 3.55 gears & O/D on - 135 mph w/about 4500 rpm on the tach. Handling is flat,tight & smooth.

[Firedab]

Krytin, You bought it on 7-10-02 and sold it 7-12-02?? How did you make the performace upgrades in 2 days?

[Silver_04]

I've got an '04 and it shut down at 124 on the dyno. Now I just need to find a place to confirm that :)

[SergntMac]

I'm SergntMac@aol.com, and I approve this message.

Guys...Let's wake up here, please?

I'm not shy of my top end, I can drive that fast and faster. But, how quickly I get that fast now scares the beans out of me, and trust me, nothing about cars and speed scare me.

I will not patronize this thread with my own daredevil stories, it's just not good. Some "lumpkin from pumpkin" will read this stuff and set out to become the baddest and boldest MM owner anywhere, and I don't want to have to mourn that loss.

I'm single, no kids, I've got little to lose, or, leave behind. But, I am a minority here among y'all with families and loved ones depending on you. I do not encourage exploring this topic one bit, it's just "too much information."

Y'all wanna push your MM to its limits with 200 pounds of boost and mile wide tires, go for it. I dally in that too, it's just money and rebuild time at risk. But, exploring our top end is really a much wider reach, and with many more people at risk. How many of y'all would try this with your family in the car?

I didn't think so...So, let's think more about what's at risk here, K? What ever you have accomplished, save it for your "one on one, face to face" trades. This is less likely to draw a lumpkin out from his pumpkin to his "private track," eh?

Just my .02C...

[Donny Carlson]

I didn't think so...So, let's think more about what's at risk here, K? What ever you have accomplished, save it for your "one on one, face to face" trades. This is less likely to draw a lumpkin out from his pumpkin to his "private track," eh?

Just my .02C...
So... are you gonna remove that pic fromt the gallery, or was that somebody else's car?

[Bradley G]

Look Ma, No hands!!:eek:

[teamrope]

I learned that with 4:10's and OD off mine redlines just shy of 135 and with susequent engagement of the OD gear, it continues to pull....although I have never had enough space to see when OD redlines, nor the gumption to go beyond 140.
Aint it funny how quick you reach those dots in the distance at 140. That was about the limit of my comfort level on the Autobahn. Faster than that you REALLY had to pay attention.

I would also have to side with the Sarge on this one. The concrete road bed on the autobahn is twice as thick and better maintained than our highways are. Even than you are looking at the early AM hours for the traffic to be sparse enough to hit the really high speeds.

[Dan]

So... are you gonna remove that pic fromt the gallery, or was that somebody else's car?
Buahahahahahaaaaa. I love it when the pot tries to call the kettle black. :) Sorry Sarge, but he does have a good point. Even if it isn't your car being photographed, having a photo of a speedo showing 140 in your gallery does cause one to wonder.

I am sure that it was on your own private track so we will let it go. :) :P

This place is too funny. (And ALL of what I said was meant in good fun)

-Dan

[stevengerard]

But, how quickly I get that fast now scares the beans out of me, and trust me, nothing about cars and speed scare me.


I can attest to this, Mac's car scared the ***** out of me after 40 mph - it was like someone turned on afterburners.

[jspradii]

Could'a been mine, but I don't remember the check engine light being on..........:seesaw:

[jspradii]

I can attest to this, Mac's car scared the ***** out of me after 40 mph - it was like someone turned on afterburners.
A good power adder will do that.........every time.:awe:

[SergntMac]

So... are you gonna remove that pic fromt the gallery, or was that somebody else's car?
Donny, Donny, Donny...LOL!

That pic has as much to do with my point as a Playboy centerfold has to do with sex, and if a pic does all that for you, Donny, drive on my friend.

[Dan]

Sarge,

What is your reason for saying that the pic doesn't have anything to do with the point?

-Dan

[Krytin]

Krytin, You bought it on 7-10-02 and sold it 7-12-02?? How did you make the performace upgrades in 2 days?
I guess tht's the day I put the deposit on it & the day I paid the balance & picked it up!

[TooManyFords]

We need to have an MV?? meet in Salt Lake City during the speed trials sometime. If you've never seen the Great Salt Lake, you need to as it is impressive!

Picture it; 100 Marauders show up to the track and see who's Top Gun.

Just an idea!

john

[teamrope]

We need to have an MV?? meet in Salt Lake City during the speed trials sometime. If you've never seen the Great Salt Lake, you need to as it is impressive!

Picture it; 100 Marauders show up to the track and see who's Top Gun.

Just an idea!

john
HMMMM.... I wonder how close the nearest 1320 is to the salt flats.

[SergntMac]

Sarge, What is your reason for saying that the pic doesn't have anything to do with the point? -Dan
I find this amusing because I never said it did. Ask Donny?

[Donny Carlson]

Donny, Donny, Donny...LOL!

That pic has as much to do with my point as a Playboy centerfold has to do with sex...
Hmm, I'd say a few million teeanage boys would disagree with you, Mac.

[TooManyFords]

HMMMM.... I wonder how close the nearest 1320 is to the salt flats.

We need to race ON the salt flats, not near them!

John

[MM03MOK]

We need to race ON the salt flats, not near them!

JohnThat was my thought too!! Only seen them from the air. Impressive even at 39,000 ft.

[Bradley G]

can I just try till I need glasses??:rolleyes:
Hmm, I'd say a few million teeanage boys would disagree with you, Mac.

[SergntMac]

Hmm, I'd say a few million teeanage boys would disagree with you, Mac.
You're starting to catch on, Donny, the absence of maturity is a factor here.

[Dan]

I find this amusing because I never said it did. Ask Donny?


You're starting to catch on, Donny, the absence of maturity is a factor here.

I think that you may have missed the point. :) I think that Donny was pointing out a possible "disharmony" between your words and the fact that you have a photo of what is presumably your car doing 140. Then, to make condescending comments about "maturity" on top of that? Huh?

That was the reason behind why I suggested that the pot was calling the kettle black.

Perhaps we need to hide the :soap:. :)
:duel:

-Dan

[SergntMac]

I think that you may have missed the point. :) I think that Donny was pointing out a possible "disharmony" between your words and the fact that you have a photo of what is presumably your car doing 140. Then, to make condescending comments about "maturity" on top of that? Huh?

That was the reason behind why I suggested that the pot was calling the kettle black.

Perhaps we need to hide the :soap:. :)
:duel:

-Dan
I don't know what to say Dan. Your telling me what is on Donny's mind, yet in your last post, you ask me to explain why it's not that way. I don't have an answer for you, and I don't care what is on Donny's mind. Furthermore, if a few million teenaged boys think sex is a Playboy centerfold, I think their immaturity has a lot to do with that.

How, or why any image stored in my gallery could or should have any effect whatsoever on my post, baffles me to no end. Both of you seem to have made some fairly large leaps in imagination, and over what?

My post is clear, and all I've done is suggesting we consider the effect of our tales on other readers. You don't have to agree, Donny doesn't have to agree, no one has to agree. State your own thoughts, don't rip mine apart.

This is getting stupid...

[deerejoe]

If the MM can run 140 MPH...and you can find a road that will support it...and the Highway Patrol is on it...you can bet that 140 MPH MM will end up in the Impound Lot (to be auctioned later for bail)...and YOU will be the reluctant guest at the Gray Bar hotel for a period deemed appropriate by a local magistrate that drives a 1998 Ford Taurus!!

In Missouri, $PEED costs!!
How much $$$$ can YOU afford??

[ultravorx]

Buahahahahahaaaaa. I love it when the pot tries to call the kettle black. :) Sorry Sarge, but he does have a good point. Even if it isn't your car being photographed, having a photo of a speedo showing 140 in your gallery does cause one to wonder.

I am sure that it was on your own private track so we will let it go. :) :P

This place is too funny. (And ALL of what I said was meant in good fun)

-Dan


I call bs on this pic!!! :soap: No marauder can be at 140mph at 6k rpm with overdrive off. (see the green light) Either his car was broken or the phote has been chopped!!
Or.....
He got 4:10's or higher and didnt do a speedo calibration!!!!
Frank

[Dan]

Well, this has certainly become a :hijack:, hasn't it?

May I suggest that we allow it to go back on topic and leave our personal feelings about the topic for other threads dedicated to the morals of driving fast, etc.? :)

Obviously, we all feel strongly about this topic and aren't going to budge in the way we feel and that is fine. However, we really have gone off topic from the original intent of the thread..

-Dan

[Black Terror]

Ultravorx.
With stock 3.55 gears, 6000 RPM equals 144MPH. Have observed on personal vehicle during dyno-tune.

[Smokie]

I call bs on this pic!!! :soap: No marauder can be at 140mph at 6k rpm with overdrive off. (see the green light) Either his car was broken or the phote has been chopped!!
Or.....
He got 4:10's or higher and didnt do a speedo calibration!!!!
FrankPlease, please, go easy on the "bs".

A Marauder with stock gears and stock rear tires will do 140 mph at 5865 rpm's.

...in 3rd gear, this is a fact. If you wish to not believe the facts that is ok by me, I will not attempt to prove anything.
Let's try to check the facts before accussing a senior member of this forum with "bs".

[TripleTransAm]

I call bs on this pic!!! :soap: No marauder can be at 140mph at 6k rpm with overdrive off. (see the green light) Either his car was broken or the phote has been chopped!!
Or.....
He got 4:10's or higher and didnt do a speedo calibration!!!!
Frank


I don't quite get the math, Frank.

I just got in from running errands, and had I known about this post I would have paid more attention to the RPM at highway speeds. Anyway, from memory, I think I am nudging 2100 or so at 68-70 mph (my speedo is metric). Someone correct my numbers if I'm wrong.

So, 2100 at 68 in OD works out to about 30-31 RPM per MPH. That's in OD, with a gear ratio of 0.70-ish:1, right? So if OD is locked out, in 3rd (1:1) we should see 31/.70 = about 44 RPM per MPH. So 140 MPH should work out to about 6100-6200 RPM.

Now, taking into account all the sloppiness in the above numbers (all the rounding I did and all the guessing), 6100-6200 RPM looks very similar to the indicated RPM in that photo. Consider also the possible sloppiness in the actual tachometer as well... anyone who's ever handled an instrument panel with their own hands will understand the flimsy feel of a tachometer (or any other dash gage) so all it takes is the smallest of tension difference in the needle to show a 200-300 RPM difference, especially with longer needles like the one on the MM.


I don't know why everyone got their panties in a bunch over that photo... it could have easily been taken on a dyno.

[stevengerard]

back on track -sort of - on a private track my SHO hit 142 under 7000 rpm and that was bone stock - not even a K&N. OK so its not even the same comparision but most everything else in this thread is farther off anyway.

[BUCKWHEAT]

If the MM can run 140 MPH...and you can find a road that will support it...and the Highway Patrol is on it...you can bet that 140 MPH MM will end up in the Impound Lot (to be auctioned later for bail)...and YOU will be the reluctant guest at the Gray Bar hotel for a period deemed appropriate by a local magistrate that drives a 1998 Ford Taurus!!

In Missouri, $PEED costs!!
How much $$$$ can YOU afford??

Au contraire, deerejoe, all you need to do is become a member of the Missouri General Assembly. Then, by law, you can go WOT to Jeff City for the sessions and the MHP can only assist your efforts. Or so it was.
John

[SergntMac]

Well, this has certainly become a :hijack:, hasn't it? -Dan
And I apologize for that. My .02c post expressing caution drew things off the track for a while, yes. But honestly, I didn't expect this reaction here.

I am responsible, and I apologize to y'all. I suppose "my .02c" isn't just that anymore, and I'll have to find more change to toss in. Maybe we all do?

Every day, I manage a staff of 281 employees, both sworn police officers and civilian scientific/lab technicians, and I hear a lot of *****. But, every day, I hear complaints about "getting credit" for the work they accomplished the day before. Whether it was done right or not, or had to be redone, or, it was done "nearly" on time and needed to be finished up after they go home doesn't matter...They want their "credit where credit is due," and I get that now.

So...-Dan. Allow me to acknowledge your credit where credit is due. I may have steered things off track here, but you and Donny pushed real hard behind the derailment. Even now, the sub-topic of my pic is off track too. Donny..."You da man," the master engineering all this. Indeed. I cannot overlook your effort and participation.

This mess has me rethinking everything about this here site.

Rethinking my effort in helping others.
Rethink my effort to restore sensible thought, as I feel it's needed.
Redirect content towards an orderly and sensible path.
Also has me rethinking my use of our pic gallery, and how simply storing a pic here leads to controversy, and now, judgement, about that specific pic.

Makes me wonder what Ford Warranty could do with pics, considering what they have done with posts...But, I digress. BTW...I've deleted both of my pics, y'all should review your storage too, and clean up as you see fit. You can never predict when someone with access can use a supposedly harmless pic against you, and until y'all learn that, continue with caution, eh? Wish I had...

Y'all...It was just a pic, about which nothing has been stated, claimed, or, posted by the owner of the car involved, or the person(s) taking the pic, or even the "when, where, how" of it all. It's was just a pic stored here under my screen name, parked and minding it's own business until our "pic police" got sworn in. Now it's deemed phony, bogus, "the car's broken, or" OR? Go on...Please. I need more drama on this pic. More drama, please...

I feel like someone has gone through my pockets while I'm still wearing my pants...Gawd.

Hey, gotta run. I hear someone whistling "I wish I was an Oscar Mayer Weiner," and I'm not waiting around for the strip search...LOL!

[BruteForce]

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[Donny Carlson]

I don't know why everyone got their panties in a bunch over that photo... it could have easily been taken on a dyno.
This is true, it could be a dyno picture, though there is nothing in the description that says (now "said" since the pic has been deleted) it's a dyno pic.

[SergntMac]

This is true, it could be a dyno picture, though there is nothing in the description that says (now "said" since the pic has been deleted) it's a dyno pic.
Gawd...Another quick "Im outta here." Y'all are so soft...

[MM03MOK]

To Mac's point, why would one want to brag about breaking the law? It happens here all too often. :eek:

I seem to recall a post that said a Marauder did over 160 at indy? I would think the banking would make the car handle sweet at high speed.

JeffBack on track....it was Michigan International Speedway, 7/3/04

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8969

[Donny Carlson]

Gawd...Another quick "Im outta here." Y'all are so soft...Any time you post a photo on a public web site, it can be appropriated by anyone who surfs in. Anyone.

Those pics that illustrate various posts? Some are private photos uploaded here, others are actually on other servers with the pointer to that pic put here. Just a part of life on the information superhighway that pics posted may be seen by everyone. Nobody looked through your pockets to find that photo, Mac, you posted it up in public for all to see.

In my case, I'm >supposed< to look at new pics on here. The pic in question I had no problem with. It was a conversation starter. And interesting.

I am sorry that you got your feelings hurt, Mac, but I only referred to the photo in a one sentence reply. I left it up to those who had seen it (or made the effort to find it) to understand the point of the reply. I was tweaking you about what I saw as an inconsistency in the message you were giving, and the uploaded photo. That's all. I really have no agenda to give you grief.

RE: centerfolds

Some have centerfolds, others take Salsa lessons.

[TAF]

http://talk.thebabycorner.com/images/smilies/violin.gif
yep...........

[deerejoe]

Au contraire, deerejoe, all you need to do is become a member of the Missouri General Assembly. Then, by law, you can go WOT to Jeff City for the sessions and the MHP can only assist your efforts. Or so it was.
John





I have never thought of running for public office. :drive:

[teamrope]

We need to race ON the salt flats, not near them!

John
I'm thinking for a possible future Marauderville site. :burnout: :woohoo:

[Paul T. Casey]

I was there (Bonneville) on the "burnouts" tour. They are awesome. I've been researching for a trip out there to "see what it'll do." I suggest all interested go to scta-bni.org. That's the official site for the Southern California Timing Association, the dudes who run the show there. You're going to have the compliant safety equipment, but a two way run in the Marauder would be cool.

[Dan]

To Mac's point, why would one want to brag about breaking the law? It happens here all too often. :eek:

I don't think that people are bragging about breaking the law. They are simply letting others know about the top speed that they have driven their car to.

I do, in fact, have access to the Lime Rock race track. Others here live in close proximity to the Salt Flats and other places to safely and legally test those limits. In fact, I have another race session planned for early October. It should be fun.

Should we be so quick to assume the worst in people or that they are bragging about breaking the law, even when it seems otherwise to our point of view? Should we even assume that everuone who is claiming to drive above the speed limit is being truthful? Truly, there are other conclusions that we can and should draw, aren't there?

Not all of ue are breaking the law. As we have seen here, even speedo photos showing 140 are not photos of someone driving 140. :) We are all just a bunch of folks on the net talking about things that we enjoy talking about. :) It should be just as easy to assume that folks are BS'ing us as it is to asume that they are breaking the law. :)

Or am I crazy? :lol:

-Dan

[MM03MOK]

Dan - too many assumptions and presumptions here. You assume I also meant closed track driving as well as OTR. You presume Mac's picture is not real. As you stated, we assume some folks are BS'ing. The fact is there aren't enough facts and too many vagaries. It's not worth getting tangled up in assumptions.

No flames.....just pointing out how easy it is for all of us to go astray.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think that I agree with you. :)

-Dan