Timeslip page for who?

[MarauderMark]

How many think in the timeslip page the top 10 (if not the whole thing)should be exclusively for the Mercury Marauders.I mean i have a friend that has a 7sec rail car(that not a Mercury Marauder) so i should tell him and all his friends to post it here so they can push the Mercury Marauder's out? Or can we have a page just for our Mercury Marauders.This is mercruymarauder.net ?the purpose of it is to show and tell what our cars can do?Maybe i am wrong and i am certainly not trying to flame anyone but just wondering if this is ok?Am i the only one that feels this way??

[Bluerauder]

How many think in the timeslip page the top 10 (if not the whole thing)should be exclusively for the Mercury Marauders.I mean i have a friend that has a 7sec rail car(that not a Mercury Marauder) so i should tell him and all his friends to post it here so they can push the Mercury Marauder's out? Or can we have a page just for our Mercury Marauders.This is mercruymarauder.net ?the purpose of it is to show and tell what our cars can do?Maybe i am wrong and i am certainly not trying to flame anyone but just wondering if this is ok?Am i the only one that feels this way??
Seems that a bunch of non-Panther cars have recently been posted on the timeslips page.

[mpearce]

The timeslip page has an upper right hand drop down box that I find very useful, and extremely addicting! You can sort 15, 14, 13, 12 second clubs, 60ft times, MPH in 1/4 or 1/8th, 1/8 mile ET, 1/4 mile ET...it's awesome!! I love it, and can spend 30 minutes analyzing ET's and everything else, especially after I post a new time, wondering how much more I have to do to catch the Marauder above me. I think it's great.

Because of certain posts though I can see why people would want to become Marauder exclusive. Instead of becoming completely Marauder exclusive and possibly offending people...why not add a "sort by" criteria to the drop down box for say..."Marauders Only?" (I suppose for it to work everyone would have to type the word "Marauder" under the "Ride" section or something) Anyway...

I think that would satisfy everyones urge to compare Marauder with Marauder while basically maintaining the peace, so to speak.

What does everyone think? Or better question...is that even possible?

-Mat

[MarauderMark]

The timeslip page has an upper right hand drop down box


Holy Moly! i saw that there but never clicked on it (doh) :rolleyes:

[MI2QWK4U]

This has been discussed before, with no results. This is a Marauder forum, so at the very least it should be restricted to panther platform cars only. I want to look at the database and compare marauders. Just my opinion, but I think a lot of us share it....

[SergntMac]

When the timeslip database was first introduced, it was with the intent to be a tool for members building and tuning their MMs. One could look at the performance, and mods, and decide (from an 1320/ET point of view) what mods build what performance. I agreed with that proposition.

We have already seen it abused to create a pecking order among us by brand, which IMHO was not the original intent, but is bound to happen, no big deal.

Allowing non-MM entries is, IMHO, moving even further away from the original intent, but I can agree to a limitation of Panther based vehicles only, for our likewise overweight CV friends. Seeing timeslips from other cars posted here is as relevant as seeing my timeslip posted at another site. What 411 does it provide to anyone here? Importing and storing data on cars not dealing with the same aerodynamics, traction, and power limitations the MM is encumbered with, serves no useful purpose to any members here. Nix it, 86 'em.

Furthermore, posting/not posting a timeslip for verification is not an issue with me, too easy to photochop anyway. Your word is enough, and if you're fibbing, you're the loser, not us.

[Captain Steve]

I like the other cars being listed. I have no problem with them posting their times as long as they a) are a member of this site that contributes and b) they list their mods in their profile.


Friendly competition from other auto enthusiasts is never a bad thing. I find it interesting to see where my car stacks up against other brands.

The only reason I would boot somebody would be if they were using the messageboard/timeslips as a tool to bash the Marauder or to stroke their own egos.

[jstevens]

If you want to see the timeslip from another/different platform than those should go to their respective websites.
On a MM website, I would say only panther platform should apply.

[FordNut]

the "sort by" suggestion sounds like the most practical solution. Maybe not a vehicle type "Marauder" but a platform "Panther" would give us better access to the information most significant to the majority of us. And make "Panther" the default setting when you go to the page! Maybe even add sort by vehicle weight so you could compare Panthers with Impalas. Timeslips for Mustangs, Grand Nationals, Dragsters, whatever are not relevant to most of us since they're not even in the same class we're in.

[CRUZTAKER]

I never said anything before...but I am gonna have to agree with the consensus.

I really wish there was a way to display the database for Marauders exclusively.:dunno:

[MikesMerc]

Timeslip page on MMnet should be for MM only. There are plenty of other places to go if one is looking for other timeslip info. MMnet is about the Marauder after all.

Second, I beleive the actual timeslips should be posted. It is a "timeslip" page...but we seem to lack the timeslips for many submissions :confused:

[MI2QWK4U]

Check out this poll, let the majority rule?

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13372

[mpearce]

I still think they should use the "sort-by" criteria. That way...everyone can be happy.

[John F. Russo]

When the timeslip database was first introduced, it was with the intent to be a tool for members building and tuning their MMs. One could look at the performance, and mods, and decide (from an 1320/ET point of view) what mods build what performance. I agreed with that proposition.

We have already seen it abused to create a pecking order among us by brand, which IMHO was not the original intent, but is bound to happen, no big deal.

Allowing non-MM entries is, IMHO, moving even further away from the original intent, but I can agree to a limitation of Panther based vehicles only, for our likewise overweight CV friends. Seeing timeslips from other cars posted here is as relevant as seeing my timeslip posted at another site. What 411 does it provide to anyone here? Importing and storing data on cars not dealing with the same aerodynamics, traction, and power limitations the MM is encumbered with, serves no useful purpose to any members here. Nix it, 86 'em.

Furthermore, posting/not posting a timeslip for verification is not an issue with me, too easy to photochop anyway. Your word is enough, and if you're fibbing, you're the loser, not us.

I agree!
As other may recall I pressed hard for a way for us to post the mods on each car so that we can compare which mods did the most on MM cars ONLY.

At least Logan has timeslips now. Maybe he'll expand this concept by just putting a spread sheet on the most critical factors that add hp. For example, one column would include S/C (yes or no), then boost pressure, engine displacement (CID), Muffler (Kooks or other),etc. This listing would be in order of decreasing effectiveness in adding hp fro left to right on the table.

[SergntMac]

Second, I beleive the actual timeslips should be posted. It is a "timeslip" page...but we seem to lack the timeslips for many submissions :confused:
You've made this point before, Mike, clearly, and I respect your position. However, I have pockets of time slips, and I do not own a scanner that will process a slip of paper this size. I've heard other suggest that a flat bed scanner is possible under 100 bucks, but I see no need to spend that coin, or, add that hardware/software to my computer just to address the desires of members here. I'm sure I am not the only member without a scanner, and I'm not buying one for this exclusive use. I've had dozens of them over the years, but I don't need or use one today.

I believe in our gentleman's honor among enthuiasts, the same honor that allows me to walk away from piles of tires and tools at the drag strip while I go race, or watch friends race. The same honor that allow me to toss my keys to any other MM owner, because I know he/she will respect my MM. Never have I had any reason to believe this honor does not remain present among us today, 'nuff said on it already. If there's a dispute on the data, a moderator can contact the poster and have him prove up, or, it will be pulled. That hasn't happened yet, so, why make slips necessary now?

IMHO, it's a performance database first, with a "timeslip" name. Change the name, and move on. Better yet, this topic has cost us so much in controversy at this time, I say rip it all down and forget it. It's not worth the trouble of policing these half dozen threads, and beating each other over the head in a juvenile pizzin contest that's now grown personal.

-86 it, end of story...

PS...Added after first post.

IMHO, a one-time low ET isn't as valuable as proven and long term performance. I've added up all my number over two years of ownership, and I am pleased with them as "seasonal average," how my KBMS-1x performs of the entire season, not a one time lucky shot. Your "best" is one thing, but your average is quite another and I'd like to see that database grow. I am sure others will not.

[BillyGman]

IMHO, a one-time low ET isn't as valuable as proven and long term performance. I've added up all my number over two years of ownership, and I am pleased with them as "seasonal average," how my KBMS-1x performs of the entire season, not a one time lucky shot. Your "best" is one thing, but your average is quite another and I'd like to see that database grow. I am sure others will not.

Yes, I agree MAC. That's why I've included TWO out of three of my latest timeslips on that page. And some people might find it easier to place two of them together in their scanner at once like I did. Maybe their scanner will copy them that way, I dunno. Mine did. Just a thought.

[MERCMAN]

I want to spend money on the MM, not on computer equipment. If someone doesn't "believe" your times, have them meet you at the track. The proof is in the pudding :)

[BillyGman]

I just find it hard to believe that atleast two thirds of the people who've bothered to put entries in the "TIMESLIPS" database do NOT have scanners, or that the scanners they have will NOT scan a timeslip. I'm sure there are some people who don't, but two thirds of them? Come on.....

[prchrman]

I like the system the way it is...what are we afraid of...people getting bent out of shape because SSs are posting, because temp not posted, because timeslip not posted, because what ever is not posted...go ahead post what you run and get over it...so much bickering over every little thing said on the site lately that it is just plain annoying to me...enjoy your ride and let others enjoy theirs...all this poor mouthing what gears, SCs, chips and such IMHO is not enough to get beet faced about...mod your car and be happy...willie

[BillyGman]

...mod your car and be happy...willie
Hey, I resemble that remark. ;)

[MERCMAN]

I just find it hard to believe that atleast two thirds of the people who've bothered to put entries in the "TIMESLIPS" database do NOT have scanners, or that the scanners they have will NOT scan a timeslip. I'm sure there are some people who don't, but two thirds of them? Come on.....

well lets just see I am starting a poll!!! :lol:

[BillyGman]

well lets just see I am starting a poll!!! :lol:
LOL!!!! Good one.......

[MERCMAN]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13400

There, this will settle that!! :lol: