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Donny Carlson
10-17-2004, 11:00 AM
I have been entrusted with a massive amount of photos from the unveiling of Legal Knevil, and of the Marauder dyno day at Team Ford. It was a great couple of days, steeped in cars, friends, good food, and fun.

I will be uploading photos to the gallery, but in this thread I will post a few selected shots to share for discussion.

I'll start with Legal Knevil's engine bay, a true thing of beauty as, as somebody put it this weekend "sounds like war" when it's running.

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01421.JPG

Engine is a 4.6L cast iron block custom built by Steve Petty Racing. The internals have been beefed up (refer to www.legalknevil.com (http://www.legalknevil.com/) for more details). Engine has been painted black, and the upper and lower intake, front engine cover, alternator cover, alternator bracket have been powdercoated black. The supercharger is a Procharger F1, ducting is all custom and ceramic metallic coated. Intercooler is custom made. All hoses except for the radiator hoses have been replaced with braided hoses. The Meziere water pump has a polished idler puller, the alternator pulley is custom, polished billet aluminum. All the OEM fasteners have been replaced with aircraft quality allen head fasteners. Resevoir tanks have polished cap covers.

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01424.JPG

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Donny Carlson
10-17-2004, 11:10 AM
The NOS bottle is made out of carbon fiber and is amazingly light. The tank circulates ice chlled water up to the intercooler. Notice the amazing wiring job Jason Adams did, installing a new relay box. Looks factory.

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The NOS pressure gauge is wired so that when you raise the trunk lid, the light on the gauge comes on.
http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01361.JPG

The trunk, and entire passenger compartment, is Dynomatted.

Jason does excellent work.

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01353.JPG

Petrograde
10-17-2004, 11:22 AM
Hey Donny,.... that's www.legalknevil.com ....

Donny Carlson
10-17-2004, 11:24 AM
Hey Donny,.... that's www.legalknevil.com (http://www.legalknevil.com/) ....
Oops. Fixed it!

Must be because that car is so bad....it's EEE-VILLE!

Donny Carlson
10-17-2004, 11:29 AM
The underside of LK has been painted gloss black. The headers and exhaust are a one-off custom design by Buster Smith of Grand Mufflers, all ceramic metallic coated. The Ford Racing tranny pan, rear end assembly, Ford Racing stud cover,
control arms and watts link are powdercoated black. Fuel lines have been snaked into the frame.

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TAF
10-17-2004, 11:48 AM
Thanks Donny. Not only are you being a HUGE help now....but for all you did as a member of the Project Team for the last 6 months....everyone knows...YOU ARE THE MAN!!! I'm dead tired 'specially after this weekend (and the last several weeks) so keep the pics coming and I'll chime in with some details...including the build sheet that I'm finalizing.....

SouLRioT
10-17-2004, 11:53 AM
Todd are you going to go and a have a long needed vaction? And thank you Donny for posting the pics for all of us who were unable to go.

Glenn
10-17-2004, 11:56 AM
Thanks for the pictures Donnie. Cann't wait to see the rest. I see you got Steve Babcock, Marauder Project Manager - FoMoCo, in one picture looking at the underside of the "work of art". This MM must be seen and heard. It is truly an unbelievable and beautiful car. The detailed workmanship is incredible.

I would also like to express my thanks to Todd for his Project Manager and coordinating efforts to put all this togther and to Marty for his commitment and resources to make this "badest of the bad" MM Super LK Car.

Glenn

Donny Carlson
10-17-2004, 11:56 AM
Legal Knevil has a complete custom interior with extensive upholstery work. The headliner has been replaced with a light grey suede material, as has the rear shelf. Suede inserts the same color are in the seats, with the Mercury head embossing moved to the headrest. A carbon-fiber appearance leather panel has been added to the seats. The center console has been wrapped in leather with a custom emroidered logo, also done to the air bag cover on the dash. The dash underpanels, all pillars have been wrapped in leather. The roll cage has been padded and leather wrapped (zippered so the leather can be removed). The OEM seat belts have been replaced with Simpson 5-point harnesses (and the seats modified for the belts to remove the old OEM openings and accomodate the crotch belt on the Simpsons). The OEM carpeting has been replaced with a deaper ply carpet. A custom embroidered Mercury head logo is on the sliding cover for the sun roof. A triple gauge pillar (with Autometer Carbon Fiber gauges) is also leader wrapped with french stitiching. The lower gauge pod has been modified to put in a third gauge and the cigarettle lighter relocated. Switches have been added to the center console for the rear end lockup, NOS, etc. and a NOS purge button added next to the cup holders.

Custom Floor mats by Charles Barfield
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Suede headliner, also applied to the visors. Note the embroidered logo on the sun roof cover. The overhead console is a 2004 part, which itself is out of the Town Car.
http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01357.JPG

This shot was taken while work was in progress, so you see a panel off. This shows the rear view of the leather wrapped roll cage.

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Triple gauge pod.

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This picture shows off the relocated embossing, carbon fiber leather and suede panels.
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And the good counselor himself at the helm of LK, aka Hell Boy.

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TAF
10-17-2004, 11:58 AM
SHORT BLOCK:

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Manley Billet “I” beam rods<o:p></o:p>

CP 9CC dished pistons<o:p></o:p>

ModMax pro billet crank<o:p></o:p>

ModMax moly piston rings<o:p></o:p>

Ford Motorsports Racing Products rod bearings<o:p></o:p>

Ford Motorsports Racing Products main bearings<o:p></o:p>

ARP head studs<o:p></o:p>

ARP main studs<o:p></o:p>

Ford Motorsports Racing Products oil pump<o:p></o:p>

VP Race Engines billet oil pump gears<o:p></o:p>

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HEADS:<o:p></o:p>

Chris Howe porting and polishing (Chris Howe ports the heads for John Force)<o:p></o:p>

Ferera stainless steel valves (37 mm intake/30 mm exhaust)<o:p></o:p>

Crower titanium spring kit<o:p></o:p>

CamMotion custom billet camshaft<o:p></o:p>

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All bottom-end machining performed by Steve Petty Racing….BTW, Steve also built the motor in Tim Lynch’s car…don’t know who he is? Well…in Orlando this weekend….Tim Lynch/Steve Petty qualified #1 in Street Outlaw at the World Street Car Finals in Orlando today with a 7.11@203. This was out of an 87 car field. Congrats to the whole crew.<o:p></o:p>

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The actual BUILD/ASSEMBLY of the motor was performed by our own Aric Carrian of Injected Engineering….yeah THAT Aric that some of you got the opportunity to tune your car yesterday. He will also be finishing all the tuning on the Legal Knevil.http://www.legalknevil.com/albums/Marauder/acl.jpg

http://www.legalknevil.com/albums/Marauder/adf.jpg

Petrograde
10-17-2004, 12:02 PM
simply freakin' amazing!

TAF
10-17-2004, 12:04 PM
Here is a listing of just some of the Suppliers/Sponsors.....I'm still adding some of our Partners...

Donny Carlson
10-17-2004, 12:37 PM
http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/showphoto.php/photo/5714

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/showphoto.php/photo/5715


Better to download it and watch it, though on my computer you can click and view it - the first time is crappy, but subsquent views are okay.

jgc61sr2002
10-17-2004, 12:59 PM
Marty - Congrats. :D You definitely have the badest Marauder around. :2thumbs: :bows: When are you bringing it home, can't wait to see it. :woohoo:

Paul T. Casey
10-17-2004, 01:05 PM
Many thanks to Donny for this thread. There is a reason they call him "The Man."

BillyGman
10-17-2004, 01:21 PM
Todd, and Marty, this looks like it was quite a massive project. I give you guys a lot of credit and a big CONGRATULATIONS for what you've accomplished here w/this car. :up:

woaface
10-17-2004, 01:51 PM
I really hope this car makes a front page MM&FF apperance. Maybe even Car and Driver! (Wishful thinking after all is...wishfull!)

Patrick
10-17-2004, 02:21 PM
Great vids Donny!! Any plans of posting the video of Todd in the Toreno???

Donny Carlson
10-17-2004, 02:48 PM
Great vids Donny!! Any plans of posting the video of Todd in the Toreno???
Yes, but it exeeds the maximum upload limit. I have asked Logan for dispensation.

Patrick
10-17-2004, 03:00 PM
Yes, but it exeeds the maximum upload limit. I have asked Logan for dispensation.

Great, That is a cool vid!!!!!!!

TAF
10-17-2004, 04:20 PM
Great vids Donny!! Any plans of posting the video of Todd in the Toreno???
Todd in the Torino wasn't all that cool....but that TORINO was VERY cool...me and Huggybear takin it for a spin... :lol:

captJ696
10-17-2004, 04:59 PM
Great pictures, incredible video, doggone astounding!

..ehh Marty, just wait an show the video to the "guys" at work! They`ll surely be callin ya "Legal Knevil" for sho!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

Marauderman
10-17-2004, 05:50 PM
[QUOTE=TAF] Aric Carrian of Injected Engineering….yeah THAT Aric that some of you got the opportunity to tune your car yesterday. He will also be finishing all the tuning on the Legal Knevil

.....and HE will re-tune mine on the 5th --(after a return trip to fix a problem....looking to inprove it's eariler #'s--..huh...nice 4's)..can't wait!!!!...Tom

Donny Carlson
10-17-2004, 08:28 PM
Todd in the Torino wasn't all that cool....but that TORINO was VERY cool...me and Huggybear takin it for a spin... :lol:
If you all want to see the WAY cool video of Toddsky and Huggy Bear taking the Torino out for a spin around the block, let the Mods know, because it's too large to upload under MM.NET limits.

Dan
10-17-2004, 08:37 PM
Impress me.

Show me a time slip.

Share the cost.

Before we all get realy frothy let's get a does of reality, shall we? :)

Dan

bigslim
10-17-2004, 08:58 PM
Like I have always said "the difference between men and boys are the price of their toyz". Right now I feel like a 9yr old. Great work on the car. Love the wheels and that engine looks great. I hope it runs as good as it looks. Donny, thanks for the pictures and the videos. Car sounds sweet. :bows:

BillyGman
10-17-2004, 09:14 PM
I originally missed the links to those vids. I like the second one better even though that was just a tease. But man-O-man does that car sound radical!!!!! Boy do I want to see that thang!!!!! :woohoo:

torinodanswife
10-17-2004, 09:27 PM
So you had fun playing Starsky and Hutch did we? But wait nevermind Toddsky and Huggybear?

But what about Marty playing in reverse with the Torino? Thats a good video.


If you all want to see the WAY cool video of Toddsky and Huggy Bear taking the Torino out for a spin around the block, let the Mods know, because it's too large to upload under MM.NET limits.

martyo
10-17-2004, 09:32 PM
But what about Marty playing in reverse with the Torino? Thats a good video.

Ouch!!! Be sure to watch the video carefully, 'cuz Dan put it in gear for me. Reverse gear that is......

:lol:

martyo
10-17-2004, 09:41 PM
Impress me.

Show me a time slip.

Ummmm, you don't mind if I get it tuned first, would do you? Rest assured though, I do plan on posting my time slips, good bad or indifferent.


Impress me.

Share the cost.


Sure just feel free to share some of your personal financial information with me first.

Frankly, why is cost relevant? Do you ask folks what their houses cost? I will say this, the project was outrageously expensive. In fact, it was more than you could possibly imagine. And, most people wouldn't or couldn't pay what I did. And, it wouldn't have been even more expensive if I did not have my very resourceful friend Todd helping me out, but I did so I will may be able to make next month's mortgage payment. Maybe. I will let you know if I can or not.

Okay?

Dan
10-18-2004, 04:12 AM
I am looking forward to the time slip. I bet that thing will be real fast.

As for asking cost, we all routinely share what we have done with our cars and the cost of those upgrades. I don't see it as being anything close to asking for personal financial but I will say that I have never once had a person not tell me what they paid for a house, which is also publicly available information.

I wasn't trying to ask for anything that I didn't think would be out of line. I just think it would be interesting and impressive to know how much went into it. If you don't wish to share that detail of the secret project that is ok but I don't think that anyone should start thinking that asking for cost is an out of line question.

That's about it. My post was not intended to be anything more than an inquiry. Maybe I should have said, "Impress me MORE." :)

Dan

Smokie
10-18-2004, 04:27 AM
Marty it was very exciting to see your car and dream, the way little boys sometimes do.... more important was meeting you and your lovely lady, my wife really enjoyed the time spent with her and I hope next time you are less busy and we can spend a little time shooting the bull. About the cost, here is my viewpoint....none of my bid'ness...life is short, if you got it...spend it while you can.:D

2003 MIB
10-18-2004, 04:34 AM
As for asking cost, we all routinely share what we have done with our cars and the cost of those upgrades. I don't see it as being anything close to asking for personal financial but I will say that I have never once had a person not tell me what they paid for a house, which is also publicly available information.

I wasn't trying to ask for anything that I didn't think would be out of line. I just think it would be interesting and impressive to know how much went into it. If you don't wish to share that detail of the secret project that is ok but I don't think that anyone should start thinking that asking for cost is an out of line question.
Down here we say, "Never ask a man the size of his spread" but I know that may be a local thing but, here's my thinking:
When so many people contributed parts/labor to the completion of the car coughing up a dollar value somehow detracts from non-paid efforts of good sponsers and good friends- that's priceless. My .02
-the other Dan

TAF
10-18-2004, 04:37 AM
Maybe I should have said, "Impress me MORE." :)

Dan
Yep...we set out on this Project to do one thing, and one thing only Dan...to "impress" you...Dan from Connecticut. :lol:

Anyway...I thought you were gone, 'cause the KB site wouldn't work for ya.:flamer:

As for asking the financial stuff....I was raised in the South...were it's nothing but rude to ask such questions. You're not asking "how much did it cost to change your oil"....you're asking about something that you would never have the resources or collection of talent to do. And I think Marty answered it.:P

torinodan
10-18-2004, 05:35 AM
um, i would never do that ;) ok ok, i guess i did. busted!! it was still funny, oh BTW. your old marty Megs are now on the Torino, that thing sounds sooooooo much better. Thanks!!:banana2: In fact it sounds so much better that Alisha took it from me and wont let me drive it this week. Oh well, I get the Marauder all to my self!!! :burnout:



Ouch!!! Be sure to watch the video carefully, 'cuz Dan put it in gear for me. Reverse gear that is......

:lol:

Dan
10-18-2004, 05:43 AM
Gee,

In motorsports the cost of entry into a certain class is always divulged. It is what I have heard called "refinement of the breed." If a person wants to go to a certain level the others before him have always helped out by letting him know the costs to go that level.

Example, a UROC class rock crawling buggy which will finish in the top 5 will cost one 80-100K. No secret there. A Formula 1 car and team will cost X millions of dollars. I don't know the number but I could find it out because the people who are serious about cars aren't scared to share it.

They WANT others to be in their class. I suspect that if they tried to keep it secret they would be considered either egotistical or elitist.

If I make my car go faster with a jet engine folks here will want to know how much it cost and where I got it, especially if they want to go the same route. Sure, a jet engine is going to be ridiculously expensive but why would I want to hide that info unless I was embarassed by it. I will gladly tell them because I want to help them.

Why am I exlpainng this on a car site? Don't you guys already know these basics?

This is not about asking someone what they make in a year or what their net worth is. This is about car guys helping other car guys make their cars better which, the last time I checked, is what this site is about.

If Marty has made himself an 8 - or any other - second Marauder there should be no embarassment in telling us what that cost him because speed costs money.

As for that KB comment, did it really bother you that much to be ignored? :lol: Let it go, man, let it go. :P

Dan

Marauder
10-18-2004, 05:48 AM
I really hope this car makes a front page MM&FF apperance. Maybe even Car and Driver! (Wishful thinking after all is...wishfull!)

Ditto!!! This car is 110% worthy of being a cover car. :banana2:

Patrick
10-18-2004, 05:52 AM
um, i would never do that ;) ok ok, i guess i did. busted!! it was still funny, oh BTW. your old marty Megs are now on the Torino, that thing sounds sooooooo much better. Thanks!!:banana2: In fact it sounds so much better that Alisha took it from me and wont let me drive it this week. Oh well, I get the Marauder all to my self!!! :burnout:

Glad the megs came out ok!! At least you dont have to drive around in 3rd gear all week!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

David Morton
10-18-2004, 06:15 AM
...If I make my car go faster with a jet engine folks here will want to know how much it cost and where I got it, especially if they want to go the same route. Sure, a jet engine is going to be ridiculously expensive but why would I want to hide that info unless I was embarassed by it. I will gladly tell them because I want to help them. ... -DanBusted man! You didn't even tell us if we have to sacrifice the center console for that jet engine, let alone how much it cost! :coolman:

Marty, I think I get it. You're supposed to be like Powerblock on Spike TV and give us all the details, manufacturers, prices and stuff like that. Your production looks kinda shoestring compared to those guys. After all the least you could've done is complete the "show" before you posted these teasers, you know, tell us what your budget was and how much you ran over or under(?), give us a few pics of you putting in a screw, strapping her on the dyno, and run her down to the track for some times and then a breakdown of dollars per HP, etc. that kind of thing.

And to think after all we have done for you and you treat us like this. :mad:

:D

Awesome car!

Patrick
10-18-2004, 06:26 AM
Share the cost.

Dan

You might be able to put some $$ amount on the car. But the personall effort of Todd and Team Ford, and all involved can not have a price tag!!!Am I jealous of "Legal Knevil"?? Dam skippy!!! Who wouldnt!!! This car is on the extreme ends of mods!!!! Marty had the resourses and great friends to do this and to SHARE it with us.
:2thumbs:

I didnt get to ride in it, one day!!! But when I heard it run around, :nworthy: :nworthy:

P.S. After looking at the car, I have a few mods I think I will be making. The chrome shifter, the bottom part is on my list.

stevengerard
10-18-2004, 03:43 PM
Once again, awesome car and I appreciate anyone who puts this much effort and money into a car they like. Many people would say why'd he do that, for the same amount he could've had a CTS V or an M5 which would have been faster. It is not about what he could have had its what Marty wanted so good for him. :nworthy: :bows:

On another note I don't need to know what Marty spent on it but I accept Dan asking, it would be interesting to know, we all ask about the price of new items, super chargers etc. It is what allows us to dream, to plan on what to do next. I take more offense at someone telling Dan he couldn't afford it than him asking, who's to say whether he could or couldn't. With 4 kids my priorities are different than probably most on this list, what I could afford to do and choose to do is two different things. I turned forty this year, my college roommate treated himself to his and my dream car a 98 Viper GTS. I chose something much less fun a lot more work but better for my financial future (hopefully or I'm screwed) Anyway lets not hang Dan for asking or throw darts at his financial being whatever that may be.

Rant mode off, gee sometimes I feel like a dad. :beer:

gonzo50
10-18-2004, 04:31 PM
I really hope this car makes a front page MM&FF apperance. Maybe even Car and Driver! (Wishful thinking after all is...wishfull!)
It should'nt have any problems making any front covers of any magazine from what I saw, awesome piece of auto art work.

You might be able to put some $$ amount on the car. But the personall effort of Todd and Team Ford, and all involved can not have a price tag!!!Am I jealous of "Legal Knevil"?? Dam skippy!!! Who wouldnt!!! This car is on the extreme ends of mods!!!! Marty had the resourses and great friends to do this and to SHARE it with us.
:2thumbs:
All involved in this project, you get two, :up: up. Team Ford is the ****nit. :bows:

MARAUDER S/C #5
10-18-2004, 04:42 PM
Nice job Marty,Todd,Don and everyone else involved!

Marty,are you running the widened rims on all 4 corners or just the rear?
What size Nitto's on the front?
And where can I get some of those awesome floormats? Thanks.

MARAUDER S/C #5
10-18-2004, 04:48 PM
All involved in this project, you get two, :up: up.
:rolleyes: :hmmm: :thinker: = :2thumbs:

TAF
10-18-2004, 04:50 PM
Nice job Marty,Todd,Don and everyone else involved!

Marty,are you running the widened rims on all 4 corners or just the rear?
What size Nitto's on the front?
And where can I get some of those awesome floormats? Thanks.
Thanks Rick, actually...we just have the widened rims on the rears, although (good eye!) the fronts are 255/45/18 Nitto's so the stance on this car is AWESOME.

The mats were custom made/stitched by the folks over at Marietta Auto Trim who did the complete interior work.

MARAUDER S/C #5
10-18-2004, 04:54 PM
Thanks Todd ;)

martyo
10-18-2004, 05:19 PM
Nice job Marty,Todd,Don and everyone else involved!

Marty,are you running the widened rims on all 4 corners or just the rear?
What size Nitto's on the front?
And where can I get some of those awesome floormats? Thanks.

I can not for the life of me recall the size of the front tires. 305's are in teh rear. I will get back to you on the fronts.

The awesome floor mats are simply not available. I made sure of that! Some things have to be unique on this car and can not be shared. Sorry!!

MARAUDER S/C #5
10-18-2004, 05:29 PM
Thanks Marty.:up: 255/45/18 on the fronts per Todd

rayjay
10-18-2004, 05:50 PM
Amazing, simply amazing :bows: :bows: :bows: Marty, please tell me you're NOT going to drive that beauty in the city...

FiveO
10-18-2004, 06:03 PM
Custom floor mats are available from various places on the net.

I wouldn't even start to guess where Marty had these made....


Lets leave this one alone!


Very sharp looking Marty...very sharp.


Mark...

FordNut
10-18-2004, 06:50 PM
Amazing, simply amazing :bows: :bows: :bows: Marty, please tell me you're NOT going to drive that beauty in the city...
From what I heard, he's gonna leave blackmarks all over NYC!

Patrick
10-18-2004, 11:20 PM
From what I heard, he's gonna leave blackmarks all over NYC!

He did make referance to somehting about his driveway!!!! I wouldnt want to be his neighbors!!!!

MARAUDER S/C #5
10-19-2004, 02:56 AM
Custom floor mats are available from various places on the net.

I wouldn't even start to guess where Marty had these made....

Marietta Auto Trim :cool:

fairlane347
10-19-2004, 05:35 AM
WOW!!! Thats all I can say. Very impressive. :burnout:

Deebar
10-19-2004, 06:28 AM
Marty, I uh..... just want to say uh....I mean what you've done here is simply uh....F#!$k IT!! :bows: :bows:

stumpy
10-19-2004, 10:09 AM
:eek:



:beer:

LCpl Retired
10-19-2004, 12:00 PM
All involved did an incredible job on that car...what a masterpiece...


Someone mentioned the cost...
I don't know about the rest of you, but I think that it certainly qualifys as a "supercar/superexotic" now. I have no idea...but am also guessing that in the category that "Hellboy" is now in, it is also probably the CHEAPEST one in the category..and looking at the buildup that was done, probably one of the most reliable and practical as well. Add in the exclusivity and the "you just can't buy it" coolness of having something that ferocious still being able to carry you and 3 friends (and maybe even their golf clubs..)) around and a little bit of the anti-pretentiousness (is that a word?..is now) of the whole marauder thing and you have absolute bargain....

Plus the New York plates are perfect..."Eye got your friggin Aston/Lambo/S55/X50 right heah.......

can it sit in traffic??

LightningVic
10-19-2004, 12:44 PM
I don't suppose you are going to the Southern Super Heavy Shootout 4 are you? I am going with my heads cams 2v (i wont be finished with the SC kit till dec). I would love to see this car in person!!!!! simply spectacular

TAF
10-19-2004, 12:47 PM
I don't suppose you are going to the Southern Super Heavy Shootout 4 are you? I am going with my heads cams 2v (i wont be finished with the SC kit till dec). I would love to see this car in person!!!!! simply spectacular
It will be there...and it will be running...

John F. Russo
10-19-2004, 01:48 PM
Congratualations Marty!

You've made a tremendous leap. I was wondering why you didn't have a supercharger. You were just waiting for the really big one!

I was thinking about just what you just made.

Were the performance stats with or without the nitrous oxide (how much)?

martyo
10-19-2004, 02:45 PM
Were the performance stats with or without the nitrous oxide (how much)?

Nope, no spray yet. And, the motor hasn't even been turned up and fully tuned yet. Predictions (and I strees that they are just predictions) is that we will see north of 700 hp.

jparrie
10-19-2004, 03:46 PM
As for asking the financial stuff....I was raised in the South...were it's nothing but rude to ask such questions. You're not asking "how much did it cost to change your oil"....you're asking about something that you would never have the resources or collection of talent to do. And I think Marty answered it.:P

I was raised in the West .... where it's considered nothing but arrogant to assume you know what others capabilities or resources are, and foolish to publicly state it.

If Marty does not care to disclose such information that is certainly his choice, but I see no disrespect in anyone asking the question.

TAF
10-19-2004, 04:03 PM
I was raised in the West .... where it's considered nothing but arrogant to assume you know what others capabilities or resources are, and foolish to publicly state it.

If Marty does not care to disclose such information that is certainly his choice, but I see no disrespect in anyone asking the question.
Certainly entitled to your opinion...but, do me a favor and read the thread again...he asked in Post #25...(in a smarta$$ way I might add which is still rude in my book...I guess not on the left coast) Marty answered that he wouldn't answer the question in Post#30...then Dan comes back in Post#31 and is a smarta$$ again.

Do that for me, read those posts again....then if you still feel the same way...oh well...whatever....we'll just agree that I'm right.

duhtroll
10-19-2004, 04:16 PM
Why all the fuss about money?

Where I'm coming from:

My salary is published in the local paper for everyone to see.

Every year.

Then there can be no mistakes about what I can afford to spend. :rolleyes:

So, I obviously have a different perspective on asking how much things cost. No harm in asking IMO; certainly OK to keep private if you are lucky enough to be able. That's a luxury I don't have and envy those of you that can.

Anyway, who cares what it cost? It's gonna be (to quote Herbert Kornfeld) the "Stone Col Bizook-kizeepin Muthaf***kin Bada** Supastar" Marauder on the planet.

I just want to see it run. How much does *that* cost? :)

-A

Tallboy
10-19-2004, 04:25 PM
where i come from [connecticut] if you have to ask, you can't afford it. i do think however, that if you're going to ask that question, it is better done in person/private than on an open forum. here's an example:

location:secret project home base.
time:7pm
tallboy and martyo drinking a cold one, looking at the car

tallboy: man-o-man, that thing is gorgeous, marty!!
martyo: thanks, chuck.
tallboy: so, can i ask how much you put into it?

at this point martyo can either divulge the price, or make a comment like "i'm afraid to add it all up".

either way, question answered.

[this was a purely hypothetical situation, as i have never met marty, this is just how i would do it.]:)

TAF
10-19-2004, 04:27 PM
Well said Chuck

martyo
10-19-2004, 04:28 PM
"i'm afraid to add it all up".

Let me put this to rest once and for all: The above about sums it up.

Marauderman
10-19-2004, 04:29 PM
If there had been a plan on Marty's project car of what was to be done and when and how and with what type application , then it would be fair to say an estimate of a projected amount on the project could have been there in the begining--with Marty saying--.....hey all I'm planning on doing this and I have thought out these steps in getting there with these applications and suppliers--what do you think--But instead, he choose to not do this , and that was the correct decision cause so many of you have jumped this way and the other way so many times --it would not have been making any sence..so it became a Secret--- so

The whole "thing" was suppose to be nothing more than a --how about we do something really different--like this and this--hummm ok --and maybe this..which eventually transformed into more and more stuff ..as Carlin would say---anyway...it ended up with no plan at all for the most part but more a .."lets do this ..whatda ya say"..thing--...

yes...money was trackted along asurdly, as would anyone in such a project, but, the real fun was the adventure of going from one place/level to the unknown other ...so money became more of a new deminision in parts reality.

So , to inquiry about the significance of what kind of cost are we taking about here syndrome......is really a lost subject --and the subject has always been from Marty that it is about the car and what changes to the car all this will or will not do or make the car do---so we can get some idea from all of his forthright so we can get a better prespective of a much larger picture---so money is not and cannot be apart of the picture---

Like a friend once told me--if the picture isn't developed --you just can't see it.....enuf said................Tom

SergntMac
10-19-2004, 04:59 PM
If Marty does not care to disclose such information that is certainly his choice, but I see no disrespect in anyone asking the question.
I agree. I have a few "secret" investments in my MM, including what I paid for the "1x" supercharged Marauder. I fully respect MartyO's grip on privacy. What this project cost MartyO is no one's business. This presumes that in your heart, you're a club member, and what's good for one is good for all.

OTOH, this project is host to a number of improvements to the MM never accomplished before. While anyone can "guestimate" their way through the cost of this engine build once it's final performance is published, costs and resources for many many other mods in place are important figures for those of us here who may be traveling lateral paths. This too, presumes that in your heart, you're a club member, and what's good for one is good for all.

Sharing cost 411 is the sidecar to the honor of being "first," and it can outweigh one's desire for privacy. Who says so? Well, every performance article I've ever read in any magazine eventually tells me what ballpark we're playing in, yes?

Club Marauder...Eye patch...Pirate dude. Swashbuckler, big sword and "Aye, take all ricers to their knees!" While both sides of this cost question could have been a tad more diplomatic here, (just a tad mind you) diplomacy goes against the grain of Marauder, yes? Let it slide y'all. Somehow, I am sure its' no harm, no foul for either Marauderer.

Let's get back to Hell Boy, that I get.

Petrograde
10-19-2004, 05:02 PM
Well said Sarge.

Dan
10-19-2004, 05:16 PM
Plus it all makes it so much easier to avoid yechy questions.

For example, if the mods cost 30K and the car hits the 9's in the quarters people will say, "Well, why didn't you spend that much on a (make of car here) and go faster for the same dough?"

Or

The car goes X seconds and the cost was $X. Now the question becomes, "Wow. All that money spent and the car can only go that fast?"

Neither of these questions bring joy to the owner who might then find himself having to defend his investment by some measure that many hot rodders like to use. (Note that I am not stating that this is the case nor that I know what that measure is.)

As for wanting to know the investment, hey, if the guy doesn't wanna say that is fine with me. To me, that is the one thing that keeps me from jumping on the bandwagon. Sorry. It's just how I feel.

On the upside, this car will probably give me a new number to shoot for when I finally get around to building my car. :) And when I do, feel free to ask for copies of the receipts. :lol:

Marty, in spite of the fact that I haven't jumped on the band wagon I want you to know that I understand how cool finishing a project like yours can make you feel I am happy for you.I sincerely hope that you enjoy it for all it is worth.

Dan

Smokie
10-19-2004, 06:10 PM
Ok I'll play. I was there I saw the car. The performance potential of this car is beyond question but since I had 3 days to study the car, there are some things that I feel should be mentioned.

Some will look at this car when is completed and the numbers come out such as HP and 1/4 mile times and let's say Marty wanted to disclose the investment he made in the car and right away someone will take all those numbers to show that for that size investment there is not enough HP, or not fast enough at the track, or the old I know someone who spent 1/10 and his car is faster than yours.

It will happen because we do have in this forum people that live just for that moment. Marty spent his money to build a unique car, there is a large investment of money in things that have nothing to do with going fast. So you ask Marty what did you spend on it and he replies: "Billy Bob I got 50 large in it" and Billy Bob replies: "Marty my cousin's Mustang is faster than your car and he only spent 5k to make it fast"

It is human nature to wonder how much he put in it, maybe when someone ask's in a friendly polite manner he may wish to tell....and if he doesn't...life goes on.

martyo
10-19-2004, 06:18 PM
I agree. I have a few "secret" investments in my MM, including what I paid for the "1x" supercharged Marauder. I fully respect MartyO's grip on privacy. What this project cost MartyO is no one's business. This presumes that in your heart, you're a club member, and what's good for one is good for all.


Cost of the overall project is indeed a private a matter and I am glad that the majority of the folks get that. In any event, the last thing I want to do is justify this project to anyone. That just takes the fun away from it. I am glad that the majority of folks get this point.


OTOH, this project is host to a number of improvements to the MM never accomplished before. While anyone can "guestimate" their way through the cost of this engine build once it's final performance is published, costs and resources for many many other mods in place are important figures for those of us here who may be traveling lateral paths. This too, presumes that in your heart, you're a club member, and what's good for one is good for all.

This is very true. We have done a lot of learning from the Secret Project. Some of it falls into the category of "I would definitely do that again" and some falls into the category of "What were we thinking....." In any event the learning has been and will be shared. A number of publicly available components (and their prices) came from the Project that can be adopted by my friends and members here. And, Todd and I get to say, "Yep we were involved in the design and implementation of that." That's pretty cool to me. Kind of like the badges and the pins. I still smile when I see the other members with the badges on their cars or the pins on their jackets (Paul Casey made me smile this weekend with the pins on his leather jacket and I bet he didn't even realize it).


Sharing cost 411 is the sidecar to the honor of being "first," and it can outweigh one's desire for privacy. Who says so? Well, every performance article I've ever read in any magazine eventually tells me what ballpark we're playing in, yes?

I will answer that this way. The project cost me a lot. A lot more than I originally planned on spending, but the scope of the Project morphed along the way and took my wallet for a wild ride. On the other hand, when I step back and look at what we accomplished, I say to myself wow, we got a lot of bang for the buck(s).


Let's get back to Hell Boy, that I get.

I am glad. Does anyone want to know how many times I watched the video of my own car today? Hell, I even made a few of my staff members watch it. But then again, I pay them well to say that they like it....

FordNut
10-19-2004, 06:19 PM
Ok I'll play. I was there I saw the car. The performance potential of this car is beyond question but since I had 3 days to study the car, there are some things that I feel should be mentioned.

Some will look at this car when is completed and the numbers come out such as HP and 1/4 mile times and let's say Marty wanted to disclose the investment he made in the car and right away someone will take all those numbers to show that for that size investment there is not enough HP, or not fast enough at the track, or the old I know someone who spent 1/10 and his car is faster than yours.

It will happen because we do have in this forum people that live just for that moment. Marty spent his money to build a unique car, there is a large investment of money in things that have nothing to do with going fast. So you ask Marty what did you spend on it and he replies: "Billy Bob I got 50 large in it" and Billy Bob replies: "Marty my cousin's Mustang is faster than your car and he only spent 5k to make it fast"

It is human nature to wonder how much he put in it, maybe when someone ask's in a friendly polite manner he may wish to tell....and if he doesn't...life goes on.
And we gotta remember, going fast wasn't the only criteria in building this car. If it was, we would not see leather-wrapped roll bars and door panels, suede headliner, several boxes of dynamat, etc, etc...

TripleTransAm
10-19-2004, 06:25 PM
...several boxes of dynamat, etc, etc...


Wow... you got Jimmie Walker involved as well????? :up:

FordNut
10-19-2004, 06:29 PM
Wow... you got Jimmie Walker involved as well????? :up:
Yep, just wait 'til he lights the fuse!

woaface
10-19-2004, 06:31 PM
I want to have a job like THAT someday! Although my mom does not think I'm capable of pulling it off. I do though...and God has some plans too...and I think I'll be in college for an extra couple of years after my batchlors. So there mother!

Oh...sorry...Damn that car is cool..:)


Hell, I even made a few of my staff members watch it. But then again, I pay them well to say that they like it....

merc406
10-19-2004, 06:38 PM
Tried to post on your site Marty, :confused: so here it is, :beer: Your Marauder is a work of art and I think I said "How Sweet It Is"!! :burnout: Having owned 4 different 63 Marauder's over 36 years now :D your's is the bomb!!!! :burnout: :burnout:
Any exterior mods in the making, cowl hood, tubbed rear end, 24" meats????

TripleTransAm
10-19-2004, 06:40 PM
Cost of the overall project is indeed a private a matter and I am glad that the majority of the folks get that. In any event, the last thing I want to do is justify this project to anyone. That just takes the fun away from it. I am glad that the majority of folks get this point.


This is an important point... a lot of posts have implied that Marty built this car for MercuryMarauder.net . There's the possibility that he did it for his own pleasure, and I don't believe he's obligated to disclose what it might have cost him. I haven't seen any evidence of any witholding of details on the car, so I believe anyone of us can pick up a phone and start calling around for prices.

Should Marty ever decide to sell the car, I assume the asking price will (and should) be validated by disclosure of what was dumped on the car and its mods but until then, it's his car and his finished project. I propose we treat this like any project... around my neighborhood, it's a real flurry of homeowners landscaping their new lots, and while there is a lot of guessing, no one's coming straight out and asking how much it's costing: face to face, over a beer, you *might* get around to discussing a ballpark figure, but otherwise it's best to sit back, congratulate the owner if you like the finished results, congratulate him anyway if you don't because it's polite...

merc406
10-19-2004, 06:47 PM
On the cost of having fun: It's no ones freggin business .........

TAF
10-19-2004, 06:58 PM
This is an important point... a lot of posts have implied that Marty built this car for MercuryMarauder.net . There's the possibility that he did it for his own pleasure, and I don't believe he's obligated to disclose what it might have cost him. I haven't seen any evidence of any witholding of details on the car, so I believe anyone of us can pick up a phone and start calling around for prices.Thank you /Steve....this car was not built for any "club"....this one or anyone elses "club"....and if folks will look at Post #12...you'll find a listing of most of the folks we worked with on this car. Pick up the phone and start dialing for dollars, folks...it's what I did. And...as a matter of fact, there are several products that have come out of this car that already have or soon will benefit the group here. What? You think some guy who knows some guy or related to some guy at Procharger is why there is 14 freakin threads about a Procharger "kit"? I've spent so much time on the phone with the TOP levels of Procharger over the past 3 1/2 months...and other than some guy (former) that owned some shop that all of a sudden (unbeknownst to Procharger) shows up in MM&FF with his Procharger (schlock) install....they had hardly heard or cared about a Mercury Marauder. Things have been shared, they're right under your noses....but some are to nosey to see them. We have another saying in the South when it comes to personal matters...."nunya" as in nunyad*mnbidnis. There's nothing being marketed here folks...nobody looking to take money out of your pockets....there will be no "MartyO Kit".....no donations have been taken or accepted from anyone here......no tax dollars used.....so there is no need for any justification of cost to anyone. It's a car that someone wanted built...and they knew just who could do the work....period.

bigslim
10-19-2004, 07:01 PM
I want to have a job like THAT someday! Although my mom does not think I'm capable of pulling it off. I do though...and God has some plans too...and I think I'll be in college for an extra couple of years after my batchlors. So there mother!

Oh...sorry...Damn that car is cool..:)
First thing you have learn how to do James is spell "Bachelor".

martyo
10-19-2004, 07:08 PM
First thing you have learn how to do James is spell "Bachelor".

The chicks dig James for something better than his spelling. :lol:

frdwrnch
10-19-2004, 07:45 PM
This is truly a "SuperMarauder". The creative planning, skillful execution and uniquness of this project are an inspiration to me personally. Many of us choose to change aspects of our cars to suit us from mild to wild. This is a glimpse of the high end of that spectrum. As a car collector I know that $ spent is not often proportional to value or performance and should not be used as a relative indicator (too many variables). I just sit back, look at my screen and think, Man, that's really cool!
I hope to see y'all at the heavyweight shootout. Somebody has to bring up the rear!

bigslim
10-19-2004, 11:36 PM
The chicks dig James for something better than his spelling. :lol:
You talking about our very own "mack-daddy" James???

FordNut
10-20-2004, 12:07 AM
I hope to see y'all at the heavyweight shootout. Somebody has to bring up the rear!
I'll be there!

martyo
10-20-2004, 03:44 AM
You talking about our very own "mack-daddy" James???


None other!

2003 MIB
10-20-2004, 04:09 AM
I pay them well to say that they like it....
Respectfully, I doubt that (not the pay part but the cool factor). In the 80's, Car & Driver ran a feature article about a guy that built a Caddy Seville with a NASCAR Drivetrain and full cage. He would take clients out for desert high-speed runs (180+ mph as I recall). Everyone who rode in the car loved it. Not everyone is into a mega-bucks dinner or a night at a "gentleman's club". Everyone can relate to speed. The idea that you have been so fast in a vehicle that's akin to sitting on the sofa is a universal thrill. Who couldn't dig a huge, streetable 10-second car? Art for the sake of art is just that- an expression of the owner's soul. People dig it- even folks who don't get "The Marauder Thing" have to get the wonderful absurdity. Could the cash have been spent going faster cheaper and easier? Sure but then it would just be another fast Mustang, Corvette or whatever...This is one of a kind that probably won't be duplicated. Works for me.

martyo
10-20-2004, 04:36 AM
Could the cash have been spent going faster cheaper and easier? Sure but then it would just be another fast Mustang, Corvette or whatever...This is one of a kind that probably won't be duplicated. Works for me.

Thanks Dan. That was the poiunt that kept coming up between me and Todd when the Project was conceived.

JohnE
10-20-2004, 04:46 AM
Very nice project Martyo. It's a work of art in form and function. Not just any dyno will even be able to handle the rear wheel power from your car. And when you go out on joy rides, even the backseat riders are taken care of. Hope to hear you put many enjoyable miles on her.


John





P.S. Perhaps you need a "Beware of Blast" warning sticker on the rear now

woaface
10-20-2004, 05:04 AM
Well spelling was never my strongpoint. But after years of practice, and a lot of typing here (which has been immensly helpful) you guys would never be able to guess what my spelling used to look like!

Besides I knew it was spelled wrong...I was just in such a hury to get it typed before I was discovered being on the computer when I really should have been doing chemistry homework. I just have to check in occasionally you know?:D

stevengerard
10-20-2004, 06:48 AM
First thing you have learn how to do James is spell "Bachelor".

Secondly, learn how to write a complete sentence, don't follow Bigslim's example. He left out the word "to" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I can't spell or write well either. James, it may not seem it but you are very young yet. Don't let anyone tell you what you can or can't do. Observe, learn and work hard and you can do a lot. Neither of my parents had high hopes for me, it actually just drove me to work harder. I'm in a place I never dreamed of now. And remember, although there are a lot of folks on this site who deservingly spend a lot on their cars, success is measured in many ways. My wife and kids are my biggest success

OK, back on topic - case in point Marty's car - awesome. This is something he may have been dreaming of for years and the right car came a long at the right time when priorities, time and money all fit in. He did it, he deserves it. he has already changed my attitude about mods.

I was just going with DR's Vortech SC and the water pump. Now I'm adding the KVR brake kit, the Torque Converter, the 4.10s, reverse coolant kit, Mac and Zack control arms, and Sway bar. I can't help thinking about the new suspension parts on Marty's car. Those are next.

Marty I'm in New York Nov 1, you owe me dinner for putting me over the mod edge!

MAD-3R
10-20-2004, 06:51 AM
Ehh, I've seen better...

J/K!!
A totaly Awe instiring example of persuing one's dream. Is this what you had in mind when you herd my engine was fried? If so, I almost think I missed out.

bigslim
10-20-2004, 08:43 AM
Secondly, learn how to write a complete sentence, don't follow Bigslim's example. He left out the word "to" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I can't spell or write well either. James, it may not seem it but you are very young yet. Don't let anyone tell you what you can or can't do. Observe, learn and work hard and you can do a lot. Neither of my parents had high hopes for me, it actually just drove me to work harder. I'm in a place I never dreamed of now. And remember, although there are a lot of folks on this site who deservingly spend a lot on their cars, success is measured in many ways. My wife and kids are my biggest success

OK, back on topic - case in point Marty's car - awesome. This is something he may have been dreaming of for years and the right car came a long at the right time when priorities, time and money all fit in. He did it, he deserves it. he has already changed my attitude about mods.

I was just going with DR's Vortech SC and the water pump. Now I'm adding the KVR brake kit, the Torque Converter, the 4.10s, reverse coolant kit, Mac and Zack control arms, and Sway bar. I can't help thinking about the new suspension parts on Marty's car. Those are next.

Marty I'm in New York Nov 1, you owe me dinner for putting me over the mod edge!
I was in a hurry to type that. I didn't anyone to see me on the computer instead of doing my chemistry homework. "OOPS", James already used that one.

Shankin
10-20-2004, 09:29 AM
Who cares what it costs!!! Its Cool and thats all that matters!!!!!! Trust me we will be posting tuned dyno numbers and ets after we take it to the track!!!!! This is not just some pretty show car its one that will be used for what is was put together for MAX FUN!!

martyo
10-20-2004, 10:56 AM
Who cares what it costs!!! Its Cool and thats all that matters!!!!!! Trust me we will be posting tuned dyno numbers and ets after we take it to the track!!!!! This is not just some pretty show car its one that will be used for what is was put together for MAX FUN!!

Yeah, yeah, thansk for sharing your views. Now get yer azz back under my car and finish it up!!!! ;)

mdmarauder
10-20-2004, 11:16 AM
I think it's pretty simple. If you post it on the site expect questions. Otherwise keep it to yourself.

tbore007
10-20-2004, 11:26 AM
marty, congrats. your little boy has grown up....

Shankin
10-20-2004, 12:56 PM
marty, congrats. your little boy has grown up....

That aint no joke! :D Came in a boy and leaving out a MAN!

Ross
10-21-2004, 07:47 AM
Absolutely unbelievable! I thought I had seen some awesome mods on this board (and I have!) but this is the most awesome thing ever! Congrats to Marty and all involved. Yes, I am more jealous than ever!

As to cost, when I first saw all of the pics, I simply assumed that the mods cost more than the original price of the car, and since I can't count that high, I just let it go at that.

Tech question: Is the nitrous system a regular NOS, or is it just there to keep the intercooler cool? I may be a bit behind on the technology here, as usual.

Shankin
10-21-2004, 09:32 AM
Absolutely unbelievable! I thought I had seen some awesome mods on this board (and I have!) but this is the most awesome thing ever! Congrats to Marty and all involved. Yes, I am more jealous than ever!

As to cost, when I first saw all of the pics, I simply assumed that the mods cost more than the original price of the car, and since I can't count that high, I just let it go at that.

Tech question: Is the nitrous system a regular NOS, or is it just there to keep the intercooler cool? I may be a bit behind on the technology here, as usual.
Its a wet system for getting this tank moving!

TAF
10-21-2004, 10:07 AM
Tech question: Is the nitrous system a regular NOS, or is it just there to keep the intercooler cool? I may be a bit behind on the technology here, as usual.Ross as Shankin said, the Nitrous is "plumbed" to the intake (see pic showing intake tubing)....The 10 gallon black (painted) aluminum tank holds ice water which is plumbed to the custom intercooler via a marine system using an electric pump (90 PSI to 10 ft.) and marine, clear hose which is run within the frame rails.

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01346.JPG

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01352.JPG

duhtroll
10-21-2004, 10:33 AM
And the best part is you can *STILL* fit tons of stuff in that trunk!

Jerry Barnes
10-21-2004, 11:35 AM
MartyO,

WOW! This has to be the ultimate Marauder. No expense was spared. The work looks fantastic and I can't wait to see how it performs.

Congratulations on the completion of your ULTIMATE MARAUDER PROJECT!!!!

Please keep us posted on your initial driving experiences.

Jerry

Constable
10-21-2004, 12:23 PM
Congrats on the project, Marty. Looks like you'll be enjoying this for years to come.

P.S. - I still have the "mascots" if you need someone to sprawl across the hood during a photoshoot...

martyo
10-21-2004, 12:59 PM
P.S. - I still have the "mascots" if you need someone to sprawl across the hood during a photoshoot...

I'll take 'em!!! :P

martyo
10-21-2004, 01:00 PM
Its a wet system for getting this tank moving!

Are you saying my car is fat or phat????

rumble
10-21-2004, 06:48 PM
Marty, Todd,
Stunning, absolutely stunning project. Screw what
it costs, what I want to hear is how a Southern Gentleman from
Atlanta got teamed up with a Lawyer from New Yark City to build
the worlds fastest Marauder.

Yeah, that's what I want to hear.

Constable
10-21-2004, 10:36 PM
I'll take 'em!!! :P

BTW... one of them now has some aftermaket parts on her, too!!

drgnrdr33
10-21-2004, 11:53 PM
Enough with the cost already. What I need is more video clips. Being all the way across the country I doubt I'll see it in real life, so just take another clip like the first run down the parking lot, but this time at WOT the whole length. OK, OK, I'll wait for the proper tune and break in. Be sure and get the audio too.

To the funder and the talent, I say Well Done! :nworthy:

TripleTransAm
10-22-2004, 07:45 AM
Marty, Todd,
Stunning, absolutely stunning project. Screw what
it costs, what I want to hear is how a Southern Gentleman from
Atlanta got teamed up with a Lawyer from New Yark City to build
the worlds fastest Marauder.


Sounds like a promising sitcom...

Patrick
10-22-2004, 07:49 AM
Sounds like a promising sitcom...


:rofl: :rofl: But what will it be called???

Festus
10-22-2004, 08:33 AM
But what will it be called???

How about "The Mod Couple" ?
Or better yet "Marauder, Incorporated"

Eric

TripleTransAm
10-22-2004, 08:38 AM
How about "Marauder, He Wrote" ?

wesman
10-22-2004, 08:53 AM
It is a funny feeling to all of the sudden realize I've been wading around in the kiddie pool of marauder modifications. Humble is best. Thank you very much boys for creating a monster, and thank you even more for sharing.

martyo
10-23-2004, 12:02 PM
MartyO,

WOW! This has to be the ultimate Marauder. No expense was spared. The work looks fantastic and I can't wait to see how it performs.

Congratulations on the completion of your ULTIMATE MARAUDER PROJECT!!!!

Please keep us posted on your initial driving experiences.

Jerry

Thanks Jerry. Coming from one of the "ultimate" car guys like you, this means a lot. You may even get to see the car close to your home. Steve Babcock invited me to Detroit to show the car off to his own "Team" of engineers at Ford, so when I am in town I assume that you will let me take you out for dinner.

David Morton
10-23-2004, 12:39 PM
But what will it be called???How's about, "Marauder's the Envy of the Western World"

duhtroll
10-23-2004, 01:43 PM
There's some smack talking going on over at the bowtie NAISSO forums about the "next wonder of the modern world" (my name for Marty's beast).

Suffice to say - it would be REALLY nice to see those guys have to pay homage after they get trounced.

-A

martyo
10-23-2004, 02:07 PM
There's some smack talking going on over at the bowtie NAISSO forums about the "next wonder of the modern world" (my name for Marty's beast).

Suffice to say - it would be REALLY nice to see those guys have to pay homage after they get trounced.

-A

Alvin: Can ya post a linky linky?

Patrick
10-23-2004, 02:08 PM
How about "Marauder, He Wrote" ?


:2thumbs: :2thumbs:

duhtroll
10-24-2004, 01:40 PM
It's Artemis, er, Aphonse or whatever, and yes, I can:

http://www.impalasuperstore.com/naisso/forum2002/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24930

-A


Alvin: Can ya post a linky linky?

martyo
10-24-2004, 02:27 PM
It's Artemis, er, Aphonse or whatever, and yes, I can:

http://www.impalasuperstore.com/naisso/forum2002/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24930

-A

Thanks Alvin. They don't seem to like my car too much, but I didn;t build it for them. Then again they can't read either because they don't understand that 621hp/619 tq was on a base tune below 5,500 rpms.

We will see what they have to say after SSHS4 in a couple of weeks.

TAF
10-24-2004, 02:48 PM
It's Artemis, er, Aphonse or whatever, and yes, I can:

http://www.impalasuperstore.com/naisso/forum2002/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24930

-AThat's all pretty funny to read...oh well. Thanks for the link Andrew...and thanks to, to our friend Javier who was representin' in that silly thread. :up:

Festus
10-24-2004, 02:54 PM
But what will it be called???

I'm still partial to "Marauder, Inc." as a pun on "Murder, Inc." I expect Hell Boy is going to be a contract killer from New York.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder%2C_Inc.

Eric

Patrick
10-24-2004, 04:35 PM
Thanks Alvin. They don't seem to like my car too much, but I didn;t build it for them. Then again they can't read either because they don't understand that 621hp/619 tq was on a base tune below 5,500 rpms.

We will see what they have to say after SSHS4 in a couple of weeks.

Cant wait to see the numbers after full tune!! I cant wait till the 6th!!!

JerseyVics
10-25-2004, 12:24 PM
MARTY OWNS!

--Russ :banana2:

teamrope
10-25-2004, 09:58 PM
Thanks Alvin. They don't seem to like my car too much, but I didn;t build it for them. Then again they can't read either because they don't understand that 621hp/619 tq was on a base tune below 5,500 rpms.

We will see what they have to say after SSHS4 in a couple of weeks.I'de say it was mixed. Some of the SS guys seemed to like it.

I hope you get a chance to get her to the track before the shoot out for a "get acquainted" session.:D

martyo
10-26-2004, 03:42 AM
I hope you get a chance to get her to the track before the shoot out for a "get acquainted" session.:D

Down to ATL this weekend for a test and tune session at Dallas (Southeastern Dragway).

torinodan
10-26-2004, 04:08 AM
Stop by and pick me up on your way to Dallas, if you dont I should be able to hear it run from the front porch anyway.




Down to ATL this weekend for a test and tune session at Dallas (Southeastern Dragway).

martyo
10-26-2004, 04:10 AM
Stop by and pick me up on your way to Dallas, if you dont I should be able to hear it run from the front porch anyway.

I believe that I am riding up in Jeff's truck/trailer. But, if there is room, I will let you know.

FordNut
10-26-2004, 05:03 AM
Down to ATL this weekend for a test and tune session at Dallas (Southeastern Dragway).
When? Fri or Sat? What time? I could possibly make it. Maybe even get some practice on my own launches.

martyo
10-26-2004, 05:06 AM
When? Fri or Sat? What time? I could possibly make it. Maybe even get some practice on my own launches.

Saturday. I think at like 4:00 p.m. or something. Maybe Todd will post up some details since all I really know is that I am flying in at 11:30 a.m. on Saturday and leaving at 5:30 p.m. on Sunday.

jgc61sr2002
10-26-2004, 05:12 AM
Saturday. I think at like 4:00 p.m. or something. Maybe Todd will post up some details since all I really know is that I am flying in at 11:30 a.m. on Saturday and leaving at 5:30 p.m. on Sunday.


Marty - Have fun. :D We in NY will be thinking of you. Good luck. See you soon.

torinodan
10-26-2004, 06:09 PM
cool, if im not working i'll be around or allready there!! :burnout:




I believe that I am riding up in Jeff's truck/trailer. But, if there is room, I will let you know.