View Full Version : Fuel Combustion Modifier.....
Marauderjack
10-20-2004, 11:28 AM
Hey y'all....
Over the years we have all bought products we believed would help the performance, longevity and economy of our prized vehicles!! :cool:
I have recently entered into a "Non-Disclosure" agreement with a company that has invented thousands of products over the years and become very successful in many business segments!! :)
Having nothing to lose I added 1/2 ounce of their "Combustion Modifier" to a full tank of 93 octane in my Marauder and proceeded to travel one of my usual routes today. My car has consistantly given me 22-22.5 MPG at 75-80 MPH on the highway!! :beer: I actually got 23.3 yesterday going to Charlotte and attribute this to cooler air?? :confused:
Today on the return trip and filling up at the same places I got 26.2 MPG and of course felt the additional power that I wanted too.....really surprised me!!! :alone:
The recommended usage level is 1 ounce to 40 gallons for at least two tanks and then 1 ounce to 80 gallons!! :cool4: It's hard as Hell to measure such small quantities so the concentrate should be diluted for ease of handling!! :rolleyes: BTW....I have independent test lab reports that show 8%-21% improvement in power and fuel economy in diesels and up to 20% in gasoline vehicles. The product is currently being sold in the Phillipines and other third world countries for much improved emissions and fuel economy.
If any of you would like to try this product and report back....I'll be glad to supply you enough for several tanks of gas. Oh yes...it doesn't significantly increase octane but by modifying the combustion process significantly reduces detonation potential, increases power and reduces emissions......I have test data supporting all of this as well!!
I have my "FLAME SUIT" on and I'm ready!!! Let it fly....and STAY TUNED for updates!! :bandit:
Marauderjack :)
GordonB
10-20-2004, 11:31 AM
I'm game and I have 2 MMs to try this product on/in. :)
GordonB
merc406
10-20-2004, 11:45 AM
Gordon let us know if it work's, sound's like a cowchip solution in a can, ie
3rd world, but if it work's I got one bigass gas hog to try it on :lol: :rasta:
valkyrie
10-20-2004, 12:06 PM
Hey y'all....
Over the years we have all bought products we believed would help the performance, longevity and economy of our prized vehicles!! :cool:
I have recently entered into a "Non-Disclosure" agreement with a company that has invented thousands of products over the years and become very successful in many business segments!! :)
Having nothing to lose I added 1/2 ounce of their "Combustion Modifier" to a full tank of 93 octane in my Marauder and proceeded to travel one of my usual routes today. My car has consistantly given me 22-22.5 MPG at 75-80 MPH on the highway!! :beer: I actually got 23.3 yesterday going to Charlotte and attribute this to cooler air?? :confused:
Today on the return trip and filling up at the same places I got 26.2 MPG and of course felt the additional power that I wanted too.....really surprised me!!! :alone:
The recommended usage level is 1 ounce to 40 gallons for at least two tanks and then 1 ounce to 80 gallons!! :cool4: It's hard as Hell to measure such small quantities so the concentrate should be diluted for ease of handling!! :rolleyes: BTW....I have independent test lab reports that show 8%-21% improvement in power and fuel economy in diesels and up to 20% in gasoline vehicles. The product is currently being sold in the Phillipines and other third world countries for much improved emissions and fuel economy.
If any of you would like to try this product and report back....I'll be glad to supply you enough for several tanks of gas. Oh yes...it doesn't significantly increase octane but by modifying the combustion process significantly reduces detonation potential, increases power and reduces emissions......I have test data supporting all of this as well!!
I have my "FLAME SUIT" on and I'm ready!!! Let it fly....and STAY TUNED for updates!! :bandit:
Marauderjack :)
I would be interested. How do I sign up?
Marauderjack
10-20-2004, 12:25 PM
merc406...
The reason for the 3rd world activity is their governments embrace products that reduce emissions and IMPROVE FUEL ECONOMY!!! Especially in the "piss ant" Japanese and Korean diesel cars they have??
This product was initially aimed at Diesel trucks here in the US but for some reason an extra mile per gallon didn't interest them initially!! Now with fuel over $2.00 per gallon...all of a sudden BIG INTEREST!! :o
All of the testing in gasoline engines has proven promising and is ongoing.
All I would like is a few of you who have a good handle on what fuel mileage your car is giving to give it a whirl and report back to me!!
BTW....without packaging,transportation, advertising and all of the costs involved in retailing a product.....this stuff only costs about 25 cents to treat a 20 gallon tank of fuel!!! :beer: By the time you add all the other costs it should still less than 50 cents per tank??
Marauderjack :D
GordonB
10-20-2004, 12:30 PM
Marauderjack,
Pls just re-assure us that the contents of this product will NOT damage our dual cats, etc. Some of the third world products improve performance but at a cost where emissions are NOT as stringent as ours in North America.
Thanks,
GordonB
merc406
10-20-2004, 12:31 PM
If it works it works, jack, by the way got a name from the cans your sellin
so we can do our own research? :D ;) :D
Racerx88
10-20-2004, 12:58 PM
If you only got "22-22.5 MPG at 75-80 MPH" then there's something wrong with your car or the product. I think you'll find that most of the stock MM's on this board get at least 24-25 mpg doing that on the highway. At least mine sure does. I've even gotten over 26 mpg a couple times.
Stephen Soulsby
10-20-2004, 05:09 PM
If you only got "22-22.5 MPG at 75-80 MPH" then there's something wrong with your car or the product. I think you'll find that most of the stock MM's on this board get at least 24-25 mpg doing that on the highway. At least mine sure does. I've even gotten over 26 mpg a couple times.
I know that sure doen't describe my car. I consistently get 20-21mpg doing my mix of city and highway. On the highway doing 75-80mph, I get 22-23mpg. Once I got 24mpg, but that was only once. Oddly enough, my LS gets the exact same fuel economy when I drive it.
I'm definetly a purist. I don't put anything in my car unless the factory says so (except for the very rare use of 3M fuel system cleaner). I don't use oil treatments (STP, Lucas, Prolong, or any of that other money robbing stuff), just Mobil1 5w-30 and Amoco/BP 93 octane.
However, I'm game. I'll be happy to try it out in either of my cars. If you can convince me, you can convince anybody.
Liars can figure, but figures don't lie.
cyclone03
10-20-2004, 06:54 PM
As long as it will not hurt the CATS. I'd like to try it too.
I've tracked MPG from every tank from 3 miles on the ODO to the current 32k +.
A low of 12.3 to a high of 25.8.
Back and forth to work,no freeway 16.5 to 17.9.
hdwrench
10-20-2004, 07:19 PM
anyone interested in some snake oil elixir?
:)
David Morton
10-20-2004, 09:55 PM
I ask the same question on the 'turburetor' air swirly device and the 'snot 50' slick 'em up oil goop. How come the manufacturer's don't use it?
I won't ask the corresponding question here; Why aren't the oil companies adding it to their gas? Everybody knows the answer to that one.
How do I sign up?
I hope it clogs up my cats, give me a good excuse to pull 'em and "unclog" them, which is a $25,000 fine if someone pays me to do it to their cats, but which I can do to my car with impunity. Perfectly legal for me to repair my cars clogged cats by "unclogging" them, if you get my meaning.
Oh my, does that make me insensitive? Or just greedy for power? :coolman:
Marauderjack
10-21-2004, 04:19 AM
OK Folks....
I have enough of you to run the testing!! :beer:
I will get the stuff out to those of you that emailed me and we will see what the outcome is!!
I am as skeptical as any of you and expected no gain or possibly a slight gain within calculation error (between the ears??).....The company says to "Double Treat" (1/2 ounce per 20 gallons) for two tanks and drop back to 1/4 ounce per 20 gallons after that.......Optimum power and fuel economy will then be realized.....as well as greatly reduced emissions?? WILL NOT HARM CATS......HELPS THEM IF ANYTHING!! :banana:
All of you getting 25-26 MPG now either have remarkable cars or are not filling up on level ground......every CV I've owned with 3:55 gears has gotten exactly what I'm getting with my Marauder!! We still have a 98 CV with 2:73 gears (I think??) and it will consistantly get 28+ MPG on the highway....Gonna test it next!! :confused:
Thanks for all the replys!!
Stay tuned!! :cool4:
Marauderjack :bandit:
metroplex
10-21-2004, 04:30 AM
My 2000 Crown Vic with 3.55s gets 21-22 mpg on the highway consistently... ranging from 65 mph to 95+ mph cruising using 93 octane and 94 octane.
I also get 21-22 mpg with my 2003 E-250 (5.4L SOHC V8, 3.73s) using 89 octane.
I can't see my Vic getting HIGHER than the EPA rated gas mileage for highway (16/21 for 00 Police Interceptors, 18/25 for non-PIs) I use the PI gas mileage rating because powertrain/drivetrain-wise, I have the same vehicle (11.25" TC, 3.55:1 RAR, dual exhaust, etc...) whereas that 18/25 figure is for a non-PI (12" TC, 2.73:1 RAR, single exhaust).
RF Overlord
10-21-2004, 07:10 AM
OK. No disrespect intended at all, but is there any PROOF of the following statements you made...?
Optimum power and fuel economy will then be realized.....as well as greatly reduced emissions?? What certified testing, conducted using recognised procedures, has been done to show emissions are actually reduced?
WILL NOT HARM CATS......HELPS THEM IF ANYTHING!! There are any number of products I can think of that could be dumped in the tank that might SEEM harmless, for a while. What long-term certified testing has been performed to back up this claim?
Again, no dis to you, jack...but I think we all need some PROOF that this product isn't just another can of repackaged Z-MAX, or some other scam.
Signing up to watch this thread carefully. I consistently get 20-21 MPG highway, so another mile or two for each gallon interests me.
Marauderjack
10-22-2004, 04:48 AM
RF....
All documented (both diesel ansd gasoline)...I have all data and WOULD NOT put any "snake oil" in any of my cars!!
Truth is most products you buy not only don't harm anything...THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING!! Combinations of diesel fuel and maybe xylene for very slight octane boost 2-3 TENTHS of a point)!!??
I know the inventer well and he is very reliable and credible!!
I am not selling anything here but merely asking a few of you to see what if any gains you may get??
I have enough participants and will send enough concentrate to treat 600 gallons!!
I (we) will report our findings.....STAY TUNED!! :beer:
Thanks to all who requested samples....offer closed for now!! :)
Marauderjack :bandit:
hbarrett
10-22-2004, 09:11 AM
Your product sounds encouraging with lots of potential market if its true capability match the claims. More than once you mention the test results as proof of the products enhancements in MPG, and whatever else. How about posting a link to this readily available technical data so we can take a look at it? If you have already signed a non-disclosure, then you should not have to worry that anyone here would try to preemp you in the deal you are pursuing, and I'm sure that we would all enjoy ready the technical details. Thanks,
Howard
Hey y'all....
Over the years we have all bought products we believed would help the performance, longevity and economy of our prized vehicles!! :cool:
I have recently entered into a "Non-Disclosure" agreement with a company that has invented thousands of products over the years and become very successful in many business segments!! :)
Having nothing to lose I added 1/2 ounce of their "Combustion Modifier" to a full tank of 93 octane in my Marauder and proceeded to travel one of my usual routes today. My car has consistantly given me 22-22.5 MPG at 75-80 MPH on the highway!! :beer: I actually got 23.3 yesterday going to Charlotte and attribute this to cooler air?? :confused:
Today on the return trip and filling up at the same places I got 26.2 MPG and of course felt the additional power that I wanted too.....really surprised me!!! :alone:
The recommended usage level is 1 ounce to 40 gallons for at least two tanks and then 1 ounce to 80 gallons!! :cool4: It's hard as Hell to measure such small quantities so the concentrate should be diluted for ease of handling!! :rolleyes: BTW....I have independent test lab reports that show 8%-21% improvement in power and fuel economy in diesels and up to 20% in gasoline vehicles. The product is currently being sold in the Phillipines and other third world countries for much improved emissions and fuel economy.
If any of you would like to try this product and report back....I'll be glad to supply you enough for several tanks of gas. Oh yes...it doesn't significantly increase octane but by modifying the combustion process significantly reduces detonation potential, increases power and reduces emissions......I have test data supporting all of this as well!!
I have my "FLAME SUIT" on and I'm ready!!! Let it fly....and STAY TUNED for updates!! :bandit:
Marauderjack :)
Marauderjack
10-26-2004, 04:39 AM
Well.....
Tank #2 was pretty much all "town" driving and I really haven't checked a predominantly town tank but the worst I previously got was 17-18 MPG with about 50/50 town and highway!!
I filled the tank to the brim at the usual Enmark pump and it took 14.5 gallons for 301 miles....20.76 MPG with no constant highway driving and my usual spirited stoplight to stoplight shenanegans (sp?)!!?? :cool:
I am going to do some interstate driving today and possibly tomorrow....I will report back on the 3rd tank!! ;)
Maybe some of the folks I sent samples to will begin reporting their results as well?? :beer:
Stay Tuned!! :bows:
Marauderjack :D
I received my sample in the mail last night. I will fill up today and add the additive according to Jack's instructions. Will report when I have one or two tankfuls behind me.
DirtyDog
10-26-2004, 08:13 PM
My first fill up will be tomorrow on the way home from work. It sure smells bad, it must be good stuff.
Dave
stevengerard
10-26-2004, 08:25 PM
didn't see this thread before, I have tracked every mile and gallon my car has gone/used. I average 16 mpg. i could use something like this, though in all indifference if I cared that much about mpg, I'd be riding my bicycle more.
GordonB
10-27-2004, 06:19 AM
I filled up last note and added the requisite 1/2 oz.
Pls tell me what you all used to dump in 1/2 oz. and how to get the remainder of the stuff out of the paper cup or whatever. I don't like splashing gas everywhere. Tips?
Thanks,
GordonB
Marauderjack
10-27-2004, 06:42 AM
Gordon,
Just pour it directly from the measuring portion of the bottle I sent you and eliminate the cups. A little extra won't hurt anything!!
The final product will probably be diluted for ease of measuring since 1/4 ounce per 20 gallons is a little hard to measure. :(
I look forward to your findings!! :beer:
Marauderjack :D
GordonB
10-27-2004, 10:02 AM
MarauderJack,
Sorry I was making it so hard -- used a small waxed paper cup and was wondering how to get `rest' of 1/2 oz. out of the cup. Now I know -- don't use the cup!!! Use the bottle thingy directly. OK. I have now seen the light!!! I should have findings to post by next Wed. after 2 more tankfuls.
GordonB
Mike Poore
10-27-2004, 02:21 PM
I should have findings to post by next Wed. after 2 more tankfuls. GordonB
I have a bad feeling about this stuff. Um, wonder if Gordon put it in the Dark Pearl Blue (hers), or the DTR, (his)? ;)
GordonB
10-27-2004, 02:34 PM
Mike,
I put 1/2 oz in DTR last nite. Ran today with no problems.
Do you have worries?
GordonB :confused:
Marauderjack
10-27-2004, 03:22 PM
I'm on my 4th tank and NO PROBLEMO!!! :rolleyes: It is totally compatible with any fuel and the components of the fuel system. It is not toxic or flammable....only modifying the combustion rate of fuel.
I have sent a sample to an independant additive lab for their evaluation as well.
FYI...This product was brought out about 8 years ago and went up against one that does nothing but has the financial backing to go into retail outlets with a bunch of advertising hype!! :( As a result it was shelved and may be re-introduced through a big player if I can make a few connections?? :confused:
Anyway, I will have it for anyone who wants it but only after several of us quantify the results!!! ;)
As I said before....Stay Tuned!!
Oh yes....It is called a "Burn-Rate Modifier"......Combustion Rate Modifier was my idea?? :cool4:
Marauderjack :bandit:
Marauderjack
11-04-2004, 05:52 AM
Update....
After four tanks of predominantly highway driving I have gotten the following:
26.2 MPG
26.05 MPG
24.5 MPG
25.3 MPG
Average: 25.5 MPG (for the past year I have averaged 21-22 MPG)
After two tanks of predominantly town driving:
20.76 MPG
19.4 MPG
Average: 20.08 MPG (average for town/highway has been around 17-19 MPG)
Conclusion so far is it seems to work and improve mileage on my car 15% to 20%. Now with gas at $2.00+ per gallon if I effectively get 2-3 additional gallons per tank full for $.50 of product per tank then I effectively save $3.50 to $5.50 every tank!! Two tanks per month will effectively save you between $84.00 and $132.00 a year......Not gonna change your life style but why throw it out the exhaust??
Works for me!! :beer:
How are the rest of you "Guinea Pigs" doing with your cars?? :cool:
Marauderjack :D
PS: Any of you want to try it on the dyno to see if there is and power gain?? Let me know and I'll send you enough to test.
I have run two tanks, but (as posted in a different thread) I have discovered problems with one of my catalytic converters which I am about to change out. I didn't know if this cat issue could affect my mileage or performance, so I didn't think it was fair to post my results until I could get the cat changed and eliminate a possible variable which might affect my results. Hopefully Dennis will have my new cat to me by early next week, I can get it installed right away, and resume my testing!
DirtyDog
11-04-2004, 07:18 PM
Good timing on this, I just got home from work and filled my tank.
My mileage went down two miles per gallon. Thats all city driving. This is the first tank. I'm hoping for better results on this next tank.
Dave
rayjay
11-04-2004, 07:56 PM
I have run two tanks, but (as posted in a different thread) I have discovered problems with one of my catalytic converters which I am about to change out. I didn't know if this cat issue could affect my mileage or performance, so I didn't think it was fair to post my results until I could get the cat changed and eliminate a possible variable which might affect my results. Hopefully Dennis will have my new cat to me by early next week, I can get it installed right away, and resume my testing!
A partially plugged converter will effect both mileage and performance.
DirtyDog
11-15-2004, 09:10 PM
Here is my second tank up date.
First tank mileage went down 1.892 miles per gallon.
Second tank mileage is still down but getting better, down .852 miles per gallon
The fill up today get the 1/4 oz.
Dave
rayjay
11-16-2004, 05:10 AM
Here is my second tank up date.
First tank mileage went down 1.892 miles per gallon.
Second tank mileage is still down but getting better, down .852 miles per gallon
The fill up today get the 1/4 oz.
DaveDo the gas companies switch to a "winter formula" in your area? They do here and everyones fuel economy suffers.
Still waiting to get my replacement catalytic converter from DR so I can put it on and resume test.
DirtyDog
11-16-2004, 07:36 PM
Do the gas companies switch to a "winter formula" in your area? They do here and everyones fuel economy suffers.
No, I'm not aware of any change for winter.
Dave
GordonB
11-16-2004, 07:59 PM
My understanding is that the Oil Companies do re-formulate their gas for winter time up north. They oxygenate it or something and mileage does go down when cold weather hits.
Remember, as the temps drop, check your tire air pressure -- you will have to add air until the temps bottom out for the winter -- remember the gas laws from High School Chemisrty/Physics classes?
GordonB :) :beer:
valleyman
11-16-2004, 08:05 PM
:rolleyes: I don't remember anything from high school chemistry except Darlene Flannigan.
Mike Poore
11-17-2004, 12:22 PM
:rolleyes: I don't remember anything from high school chemistry except Darlene Flannigan.
What!!! You knew Darlene????:rofl:
Bluerauder
11-17-2004, 12:33 PM
-- you will have to add air until the temps bottom out for the winter -- remember the gas laws from High School Chemisrty/Physics classes?
GordonB :) :beer:
Yep, its almost time to put the winter air in the tires. :D
DirtyDog
11-23-2004, 08:43 PM
Here is my second tank up date.
First tank mileage went down 1.892 miles per gallon.
Second tank mileage is still down but getting better, down .852 miles per gallon
The fill up today get the 1/4 oz.
Dave
Now the third tank: down 1.262 miles per gallon
I don't understand what is happening, but I am not getting any better gas mileage. Who else is doing this test. I'd sure like to see what they are getting.
Dave
GordonB
11-23-2004, 09:11 PM
OK good folks,
This weekend I'll try to tank up Ol' Red and report some tankfuls (6-8). I have also put it in Ol Blue but don't have sufficient fillups yet.
As with any mileage testing, I believe that we need to report 300 to 1000 miles BEFORE and AFTER. This does assume that you did not sit in a 3 hour snowstorm or hurricane evac traffic jam.
GordonB
Joe Walsh
11-23-2004, 09:18 PM
My understanding is that the Oil Companies do re-formulate their gas for winter time up north. They oxygenate it or something and mileage does go down when cold weather hits.
Remember, as the temps drop, check your tire air pressure -- you will have to add air until the temps bottom out for the winter -- remember the gas laws from High School Chemisrty/Physics classes?
GordonB :) :beer:
Gordon you're right..... in most, if not all areas of the U.S., the gasoline gets 'oxygenated' in the winter months. The 'oxygenated' fuel results in lower MPG. One thing I never understood is WHY do they 'oxygenate' gasoline????
Isn't that why engines pull in AIR?? (80% Nitrogen/20% Oxygen ...DUHHH!)
Isn't that why our engines have a MAF sensor, Computer, and Temperature sensor so that the correct AIR/FUEL ratio can be determined and applied to the combustion process???
Does anyone know why this is done? Other than to lower everyone's MPG AND raise the cost of gasoline during the winter months.
LOL! Too funny! Keep them coming.
anyone interested in some snake oil elixir?
:)
Joe Walsh
11-23-2004, 09:20 PM
Yep, its almost time to put the winter air in the tires. :D
I checked my tire pressures one morning about a week ago when it was cold...All the tires were down 3 psi!
Marauderjack
11-24-2004, 03:00 AM
Hmmm......
Mine is getting better mileage all around but the biggest surprise is around town......Has not been below 20 MPG in town for two tanks!! ;) (90% stop and go).
On the highway the best has been 26+ and worst has been 23+.....Maybe there is something to having the wrong air in winter tires....er, summer tires with winter air.....er, winter gas in summer tank....er, gas companies selling "smaller gallons"??? :mad2: Possibly "winter mix"?? :banned:
I guess maybe "DirtyDog" could try a tank without to see if it goes down some?? :confused:
Any of the others I sent it to have any input??
Marauderjack :bandit:
valkyrie
11-24-2004, 11:27 AM
If you only got "22-22.5 MPG at 75-80 MPH" then there's something wrong with your car or the product. I think you'll find that most of the stock MM's on this board get at least 24-25 mpg doing that on the highway. At least mine sure does. I've even gotten over 26 mpg a couple times.
I am only getting about 19 Highway.
valkyrie
11-24-2004, 11:30 AM
Hmmm......
Mine is getting better mileage all around but the biggest surprise is around town......Has not been below 20 MPG in town for two tanks!! ;) (90% stop and go).
On the highway the best has been 26+ and worst has been 23+.....Maybe there is something to having the wrong air in winter tires....er, summer tires with winter air.....er, winter gas in summer tank....er, gas companies selling "smaller gallons"??? :mad2: Possibly "winter mix"?? :banned:
I guess maybe "DirtyDog" could try a tank without to see if it goes down some?? :confused:
Any of the others I sent it to have any input??
Marauderjack :bandit:
I am actually getting horrible mileage with and without the solution.
After using for 1 tank I am getting about 15 city. I will use it again when I fill up today. I think I need another tune.
purelux
11-30-2004, 10:07 AM
Epa ratings are also taken without the ac or compresor running as well. Plus either way even if you get less mpg tha others here your mpg went up so so should theirs. One thing i wonder is if this would start the gas breaking down faster. So if the car were to sit for a while the gas may go bad faster but thats just a guess.
metroplex
11-30-2004, 10:46 AM
Use the lowest octane that won't ping in your vehicle.
After tuning the timing for my Vic, I was getting great gas mileage using 89 octane around town but as soon as I got on the highway, it was ping city.
So I started using 93 octane, bumped up the low end timing and slightly tweaked the high end timing - no more ping on the highway and I've been getting close to the EPA rated figures.
Marauderjack
12-02-2004, 06:30 AM
Last week I met with the President/CEO of Radiator Specialty (Gunk/Solder Seal) and he was very interested in the product!! :)
Running lab tests and asked that I call back today or tomorrow.....Stay tuned and I'll report....GOOD or bad??!! :o
BTW....I have a friend with an older F-150 4.6L and he got a big gain in MPG from a gas gauge point of view....He runs from Walterboro, SC to Asheville, NC every weekend and it takes 3/4 tank every time!! He didn't think the stuff would work so he didn't write mileage down BUT when he got to Asheville last weekend he had used less than 1/2 tank!!! :banana:
Not scientific but he said he rode around all weekend and finally filled up on the return trip when the gauge reached 1/4 tank!!
I'd guess that truck would get 18 MPG highway?? Don't know??
Marauderjack :D
GordonB
12-02-2004, 09:13 PM
Marauderjack,
Here is the data from my '04 MM with 4800 miles on it now:
BEFORE:
Miles 2026 to 3300 (elapsed dist = 1274); used 62.73 gals. MPG = 20.3 This included one 200 mile highway RT run to Berkeley Springs WVA from Wash DC area.
AFTER:
Miles 3300 to 4772 (elapsed dist = 1472); used 73.93 gals. MPG = 20.9 This included one 400 mi. round trip to Williamsburg VA. Otherwise this is normal drive to work, run to the airport, etc.
Observation: 20.3 vs. 20.9 after is well within the expected range for better break-in effect on these motors IMHO. Pls don't get me wrong -- I can dig 0.6 mpg improvement, but I am not sure it can be proven to be the additive.
More results from the '03 MM will be posted later.
Petrograde
12-03-2004, 05:40 PM
Pls don't get me wrong -- I can dig 0.6 mpg improvement, but I am not sure it can be proven to be the additive.
Every 3000 miles I dump a can of Berryman's B-12 in my gas tank. It burns the crud out of the injectors very well.
I get over 26 mpg (highway) and I only have to dump one 3 dollar can in at every oil change. :)
DirtyDog
12-03-2004, 07:31 PM
Now the third tank: down 1.262 miles per gallon
I don't understand what is happening, but I am not getting any better gas mileage. Who else is doing this test. I'd sure like to see what they are getting.
Dave
Now tank number 4: My mileage is still down, I'm .962 miles per gallon less than before I started this test. I also brought my air pressure up to the correct amount. I think I'll go back to plain gas next fill up and see if it goes back up.
Dave
hdwrench
12-03-2004, 08:48 PM
anyone interested in some snake oil elixir?
:):whistle:
:D
DirtyDog
12-14-2004, 08:39 PM
Start of the Test 10/27/04
11/04/04 First tank mileage went down 1.892 miles per gallon.
11/15/04 Second tank mileage is still down but getting better, down .852 miles per gallon. The fill up today will get the 1/4 oz.
11/23/04 Now the third tank: down 1.262 miles per gallon
12/03/04 Now tank number 4: My mileage is still down, I'm .962 miles per gallon less than before I started this test. I also brought my air pressure up to the correct amount. I think I'll go back to plain gas next fill up and see if it goes back up.
12/14/04 Tank number Five: Mileage is still down. I got 1.412 miles per gallon less than before the test started. This fill up I did not add the additive. I will check the mileage for two tanks to see what happens.
Dave
:xtree:
Marauderjack
12-15-2004, 05:38 AM
Hmmmmm????
Strange?? :confused:
Maybe you guys doing the test should run a tank or two without now to see what you get that way?? It could be "Winter Gas" or maybe it doesn't work at all?? :confused:
Funny taht everyone around here is getting a significant improvement!!! :banana: Diesels are up to about a 20% improvement and gas about 12%-15% :o
Just keep feeding data and we'll see?? :rolleyes:
Marauderjack :D
BTW: My MM has not been below 19.5 MPG since I started the testing and the best so far was 26+ MPG.....Go Figure!! :(
merc406
12-15-2004, 09:27 AM
Every 3000 miles I dump a can of Berryman's B-12 in my gas tank. It burns the crud out of the injectors very well.
I get over 26 mpg (highway) and I only have to dump one 3 dollar can in at every oil change. :)
B-12? You feedin it vitamin's? :D
merc406
12-15-2004, 09:37 AM
Their are to many variables when trying to get mileage results, wind direction, outside temps, long run's, short run's, traffic, your own driving habits, actual fuel entered at time of fuel-up, fuel quality, winter fuel, motor tune, engine program, and more, so if your results aren't at least 1 mpg better right off the bat overall then it probably isn't working. IMO
STLThunder
12-15-2004, 09:47 AM
[QUOTE=Marauderjack]OK Folks....
WILL NOT HARM CATS
You gave this stuff to a Kitty Cat?
Petrograde
12-15-2004, 10:47 AM
B-12? You feedin it vitamin's? :D
I guess you could call it that! :P
btw- I dig your new avatar. :up: I went to a Dead show in '90. I had great seats,.. but I never made it out of the parking lot! LOL waaay more fun out there!
sorry,... I will now 'unhijack' this thread! :P
merc406
12-15-2004, 02:42 PM
It was an excellent time inside or outside for sure. :rasta: :rock:
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