Stolen XXA 796 Blue Marauder

[ahess77]

My RARE Blue Marauder was stolen yesterday. :bigcry:

Keep your eyes peeled for a Blue Marauder, Michigan license plate XXA 796. It is completely stock exterior, there is an A-pillar dual gauge pod which can be seen from the outside. If anyone sees it please let me know. I can't go into detail as I am contacting a lawyer, but my local delaler, Varsity Lincoln Mercury, reported it stolen today.

Thanks,

[Zack]

That sucks man.
I think this is a first on this board for a stolen Marauder.

[Krytin]

Holy Crap!!! This stinks! Stolen off of the dealers lot?!! I hope they find it man. Sorry for you!

[duhtroll]

If anyone can find it, we can. We have eyes just about everywhere. A blue MM would turn my head instantly since I've never seen one in person.

Good luck. May you be given 5 minutes with the thief and your trusty taser someday.

-A

[Bluerauder]

My RARE Blue Marauder was stolen yesterday. :bigcry:
Yes, that truly sucks like Zack ^^^^ said. :mad2:

I hope that the local LEOs can recover it without any damage or problems. The bastiges deserve the full pressure of the law on their scurvy butts. :depress:

Any distinguishing features 'cause I suspect those license plates are history. Blue should be easy to spot .....

[FiveO]

Any blue Marauders in my area will catch my eye as stated before.

I'll even shoot out the tires...very carefully mind you...if its moving and I see it!


Sorry for your loss...lets hope its recovered in one piece....!

[Tallboy]

a blue marauder with a dual guage pod will be easily spotted. i hope you get it back soon. i had my mustang stolen. i got it back, and still have it. many stolen cars leave this country through the port of miami.

eyes wide open in south florida...

[2003 MIB]

Awful stuff. I'm sorry for your loss. I don't know if it's appropriate but should you post the VIN too? In case it turns up in another state with different plates.

[Patrick]

That Bites, Hope they find it soon.

[TechHeavy]

My RARE Blue Marauder was stolen yesterday. :bigcry:

Keep your eyes peeled for a Blue Marauder, Michigan license plate XXA 796. It is completely stock exterior, there is an A-pillar dual gauge pod which can be seen from the outside. If anyone sees it please let me know. I can't go into detail as I am contacting a lawyer, but my local delaler, Varsity Lincoln Mercury, reported it stolen today.

Thanks,
Ahess77, I'm in West Michigan. I've written down your plate # on a memo tablet that I keep with me everyday while I'm on the road, (UPS driver). I'll keep a close eye out for it.
Good luck bro, and God bless.

[Rep12]

My RARE Blue Marauder was stolen yesterday. :bigcry:

Keep your eyes peeled for a Blue Marauder, Michigan license plate XXA 796. It is completely stock exterior, there is an A-pillar dual gauge pod which can be seen from the outside. If anyone sees it please let me know. I can't go into detail as I am contacting a lawyer, but my local delaler, Varsity Lincoln Mercury, reported it stolen today.

Thanks,

Hey, that's really a shame. Sorry for your loss.

Keeping your, ours, the worlds eye's peeled probabaly won't help too much. Thieves brazen enough to take it from a dealer's lot are more than likely pros, and it's gone. (Get a favorable estimate for the cars worth and get ready for a fight from the insurance company.) Either chopped or getting ready for a repaint and shipped overseas.The blue MM was on the hit list - it got tagged and bagged.

Contact all the lawyers you want - they won't help. What, do you expect to sue the dealership? Signs are posted - "We are not esponsible for articles, blah,blah,blah. Don't waste your time or money with that route.

Except what happened and look for a new 04.

Again, sorry for your loss, but I know the drill, it's happened to me.

Dave

[CRUZTAKER]

That totally sucks.....totally...:mad2:

I was all over the Livonia and Midland area today. No spottings.

If this car was truley stolen, in a conventional sorta way, not a carjacking,....someone had a key.
And since it happened at the dealership, they had the keys. What do you want to bet they left the keys in the car.

Fry them ahess....*****ing fry them!:bs:

[Petrograde]

^^^what Barry said!^^^

Sorry to hear that man. I hope everything works out in your favor!

[jgc61sr2002]

That's a bummer. :( Hope your Marauder is recovered.

[NAVCHAP]

Sorry about this, the chaplain will be praying for the safe return of your special 1 out of 328. Heartbroken for you and hoping for the best. -kjs-

[MERCMAN]

Guess the PATS key didn't work

[CRUZTAKER]

Guess the PATS key didn't work
Listen....a key was used to steal this car. AHESS's key I bet. That's obviously why he has a lawer and cannot elaborate. I have jumped the shat out of my dealership for leaving the keys in the ignition, with the car unattended in their back lot.

Many dealers do it, and it has to stopped, or the dealership pays the price.

In this case, a blue Marauder is soon to be irreplacable.

[GordonB]

Paging MartyO,
We need your suggestions bro! Where is a good lawyer when you need one?
GordonB

[Mike Poore]

My RARE Blue Marauder was stolen yesterday. :bigcry: Keep your eyes peeled for a Blue Marauder, Michigan license plate XXA 796.
Thanks,
We'll be taking a r oad trip to northcentral PA over the holiday, and we'll be watching for it. It could end up on I-80 headed East towards one of those ports.:mad:

[bigslim]

I don't live far from there. I will keep an eye out for it. Sorry about that loss.

[TAF]

If they try to head South with it...we'll find it down here. VERY sorry to hear this AHESS, but...better at the dealer than in your driveway. :mad:

Good luck with the attorney...find ya a real blood-sucking one...shouldn't be hard...like shootin' fish in a barrel.

[Bigdogjim]

I agree with the genrral feeling:mad: SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG TIME

Marauders are rare blue even more so!

If it's out their we'll find it!

[MI2QWK4U]

My RARE Blue Marauder was stolen yesterday. :bigcry:

Keep your eyes peeled for a Blue Marauder, Michigan license plate XXA 796. It is completely stock exterior, there is an A-pillar dual gauge pod which can be seen from the outside. If anyone sees it please let me know. I can't go into detail as I am contacting a lawyer, but my local delaler, Varsity Lincoln Mercury, reported it stolen today.

Thanks,


Rest assured that some of Michigan's finest are keeping their eyes open for your ride. I informed my guys how rare that blue color is, thanks for the plate info. Macomb county is covered!

[TAF]

...find ya a real blood-sucking one...shouldn't be hard...like shootin' fish in a barrel.
Paging MartyO,
Exactly what I was talkin' about! :lol:

[bigjon]

i hope you get her back in one piece... that is truly awful!

[teamrope]

I think it's time for a Hangin'....:mad2: Getta rope Boys.

I hope you get her back in one piece.

[RF Overlord]

This sucks eggs...I have exactly ZERO tolerance for people who steal...I hope the cops find whoever did this before we do...

[Blue03]

Oh Man that's a bad deal!!! :mad2: Off the lot almost sounds like an inside job? I'm routin for quick but not too painful recovery... and full time :uzi: for the ones who done it!!!

[ahess77]

Thanks for all the support. Hopefully the detective will be able to get on the case today, but I don't know how much time they'll spend on a stolen vehicle.

I'll let you know more details about what happened later.

Thanks for all the empathy, you are all a great group of Marauderers. :coolman:

Ahess77

[04MEMA]

That's awful! I had my car there for several days a week or so ago - yikes! I will keep my eyes out for your car. Good luck, and hang in there. I know I'd be hurt'n if somebody stole my baby.

Jeff

[Matt In Detroit]

Saw a Blue in Dearborn yesterday, didnt get a plate or get a good chance to look it over but it is a rarity to see one. Passed me goin east on Oakwood Bvld, unfortunately if it was your car thats towards downtown...:(

[studio460]

. . . If this car was truley stolen, in a conventional sorta way, not a carjacking,....someone had a key. And since it happened at the dealership, they had the keys.Sorry for your loss, ahess77. That really sucks. But now I'm curious . . . did they DEFEAT the PATS system?

[GordonB]

ahess77,
Any updates yet?
Those of us with Blue MMs got to stick together -- not too many of us around!!!!
Pls keep us as updated as you can. We hope you get your baby back and get it back in good shape!
GordonB

[gpfarrell]

Stolen? That makes me sick.

I doubt it's in Pittsburgh, but if I see another one here you'll be one of the first to know!

Dealerships have idiots & insurance; good luck in dealing with representatives of each!

[MM2004]

New to the site, and sorry to hear about your MM. Will be looking hard in Louisville.

[Zim Hosein]

Thanks for all the support. Hopefully the detective will be able to get on the case today, but I don't know how much time they'll spend on a stolen vehicle.

I'll let you know more details about what happened later.

Thanks for all the empathy, you are all a great group of Marauderers. :coolman:

Ahess77Sorry to hear about your hopefully "temporary" loss ahess77! :(

I hope you get your baby back! :(

[Marauderman]

New to the site, and sorry to hear about your MM. Will be looking hard in Louisville.
Welcome to the site MM2004--and yes--we are all pixxxed off about this ....

[Patrick]

Welcome to MM!!! Hope Blue Beuaty comes home soon!!

[RoyLPita]

Welcome aboard, MM2004.

[CBT]

Ouch, maybe I should put mine in the garage. Or paint it black...Hope you find it and the thief.

[wesman]

This is a really disgusting feeling I know from experience. Why spend a dollar on mods if they are going to steal it? I put a tracking system in mine the first week it was home.

[jgc61sr2002]

CBT - Welcome to the MM site. :welcome: The best on the net, good info and nice folks. :D

[mcb26]

This maybe BS,,but I was told thru a friend of a friend the most MM's are equiped with a GPS that is not activated and all it needs is activated. Have no idea how to activate. As I said this was not a reliable source.

[ahess77]

ahess77,
Any updates yet?
Those of us with Blue MMs got to stick together -- not too many of us around!!!!
Pls keep us as updated as you can. We hope you get your baby back and get it back in good shape!
GordonB

No news yet, apparently the detective is just waiting until the vehicle is found, most likely stripped and/or wrecked in Detroit somewhere.

Insurance has told me to submit all my receipts, but of course in the matter of doing mods over the past few months I don't have nearly all of them. And likely will not be remibursed for the many hours I spent installing them.

The lawyers say I have a case and will be happy to assist at $175/hour.

And no, the dealer doesn't have the key to hand to me, eventhough they're sure the technician put the key in the garage when they left my car parked right outside the door, in plain view, during the day.

[klmore]

No news yet, apparently the detective is just waiting until the vehicle is found, most likely stripped and/or wrecked in Detroit somewhere.

Insurance has told me to submit all my receipts, but of course in the matter of doing mods over the past few months I don't have nearly all of them. And likely will not be remibursed for the many hours I spent installing them.

The lawyers say I have a case and will be happy to assist at $175/hour.

And no, the dealer doesn't have the key to hand to me, eventhough they're sure the technician put the key in the garage when they left my car parked right outside the door, in plain view, during the day.
Keep us updated. Maybe it will be found. As far as the receipts go maybe the shops where you bought the car have copies. I know I keep things for several years.

[CRUZTAKER]

And no, the dealer doesn't have the key to hand to me, eventhough they're sure the technician put the key in the garage when they left my car parked right outside the door, in plain view, during the day.
That's because they left the key in the car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marauder]

You know, I saw a Blue Marauder on a flat bed on Monday here in Garden City, NY but it had no plate and I couldn't get a good enough look inside to see the pillar. Either way, seeing any Marauders around here is very rare...and on a flat bed, more rare...and a blue one on a flat bed??? I'll still keep my eyes WIDE open.

[merc406]

That's because they left the key in the car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Inside "job", I'll lay bets on it. I have not seen any blue one's except for Jerry's, but if I do I'll follow it for sure.

[ahess77]

I've gotten word today that after many prayers my Blue Marauder was found. :)
Someone was pulled-over while driving it down Fenkel in Detroit.
My next problem is getting it released by the detective. Detroit also has some laws wherein I may never get my car back if it was used for certain crimes.

I have no idea what condition it is in, but if it was being driven I assume it's at least got 4 wheels. I'll take some pictures if I ever get it released. The ordeal continues. . . .

Thanks to everyone who was looking for me.

[Bradley G]

Hey ahess 77, That is a start!Now If they can get 'er back to you in

one piece that would be lusious:banana2:
Bradlet G

[CRUZTAKER]

Very good to hear. I have checked this thread daily waitng for this reply.;)

Keep us informed on the procedings.

BTW: The detective should be able to tell you if the keys were in the car, obviously they were, but you need to have it in the report. Let us know about that ok?

[Bluerauder]

I've gotten word today that after many prayers my Blue Marauder was found. :)
Someone was pulled-over while driving it down Fenkel in Detroit.
My next problem is getting it released by the detective. Detroit also has some laws wherein I may never get my car back if it was used for certain crimes.

I have no idea what condition it is in, but if it was being driven I assume it's at least got 4 wheels. I'll take some pictures if I ever get it released. The ordeal continues. . . .

Thanks to everyone who was looking for me.

Here's hoping for the best and that your Blue MM is release soon in "A1" condition. Would be really nice if the thief did a Zaino treatment for you. :D

[Kramer]

As compensation for the dealer's carelessness, make them pay for a complete Lo-jack system install.

With Lojack, your car would have been found within the hour.

Was thinking about it for my car...I am sure its a 700-800 add-on.

Get a contingency lawyer and sue for emotional distress. After all it is a blue MM, who wouldn't be distressed!

[Petrograde]

:woohoo: Glad to hear it!

I hope you get her back soon!

[04MEMA]

Glad they found your baby! Good luck with the new issues.

:banana:
Jeff

[teamrope]

Great news! I hpoe the dill wad that stole it didn't use it in one of the crimes that you mentioned.

I think the lo jack would be a good issue to pursue with the service department. :)

[Bigdogjim]

Thanks to everyone who was looking for me.

Glad to read this news:up:

Now lets hope the bone head that took it gets justice!

Sounds like a joy rider?

I really hope the Marauder is OK!

Keep us posted.

Best to start a new thread?

[Tallboy]

as i said earlier in this thread, i had a car stolen. when i got mine back, it was totaled. [i still have it.] i am thrilled your car is apparently in one piece! :banana:

[SHERIFF]

This subject raises a good question in my mind..... even when law enforcement agencies broadcast a lookout on this car.... I wonder how many cops even know what a Marauder is? Will they know what to be on the lookout for? :confused:

[MENINBLK]

This subject raises a good question in my mind..... even when law enforcement agencies broadcast a lookout on this car.... I wonder how many cops even know what a Marauder is? Will they know what to be on the lookout for? :confused:

Oh the Police here in Westchester know what a Marauder is, for sure...

And the idea of having the Lo-Jack installed is a good one.
I'm thinking of asking my dealer tomorrow how much $$$ it would set me back...
And I have to ask my Auto Insurance Agent, how much of a discount I would get if I had it installed !!!

[teamrope]

This subject raises a good question in my mind..... even when law enforcement agencies broadcast a lookout on this car.... I wonder how many cops even know what a Marauder is? Will they know what to be on the lookout for? :confused:
WSP in the Pudget Sound do, and most of them love it. I even had one trooper ask me if I wanted to swap rims with him. ;)

[merc406]

I've gotten word today that after many prayers my Blue Marauder was found. :)
Someone was pulled-over while driving it down Fenkel in Detroit.
My next problem is getting it released by the detective. Detroit also has some laws wherein I may never get my car back if it was used for certain crimes.

I have no idea what condition it is in, but if it was being driven I assume it's at least got 4 wheels. I'll take some pictures if I ever get it released. The ordeal continues. . . .

Thanks to everyone who was looking for me.





Thank heavens, get down their quik like, I've seen what happens in their holding yards....... :burnout:

[jgc61sr2002]

I've gotten word today that after many prayers my Blue Marauder was found. :)
Someone was pulled-over while driving it down Fenkel in Detroit.
My next problem is getting it released by the detective. Detroit also has some laws wherein I may never get my car back if it was used for certain crimes.

I have no idea what condition it is in, but if it was being driven I assume it's at least got 4 wheels. I'll take some pictures if I ever get it released. The ordeal continues. . . .

Thanks to everyone who was looking for me.

That sure is good news. Your Martauder should be released because you had nothing to do with any crimes that may or may not have been committed. You are a victim. Good Luck.

[gpfarrell]

I've gotten word today that after many prayers my Blue Marauder was found. :)
Someone was pulled-over while driving it down Fenkel in Detroit.
My next problem is getting it released by the detective. Detroit also has some laws wherein I may never get my car back if it was used for certain crimes.

I have no idea what condition it is in, but if it was being driven I assume it's at least got 4 wheels. I'll take some pictures if I ever get it released. The ordeal continues. . . .

Thanks to everyone who was looking for me.

HIP-HIP-HOORAY!

Let's hope the perp gets "community service" as a speedbump on the dragstrip at the next Marauderville!

[Mike Poore]

I've gotten word today that after many prayers my Blue Marauder was found. :)
Thanks to everyone who was looking for me.
Man, you are one lucky dude! Punishment for the perp? Make him clean it up. Then run over the bastage.;)

[ahess77]

OK, I got the car released by the detective and got it back yesterday. :banana:
The only damage appears to be that both exterior mirrors are broken. Of course there's trash everywhere and cigarette ashes inside (since there's no ash tray apparently the thief decided to use the cup holders).
I do now have a nice collection of rap music CDs that were left in the car as well as some clothes (going to Goodwill). There is a lot of trash, but nothing like dirty diapers or anything.
It has about 1000 more miles than when I had it last, but mechanically appears fine. I found receipts from Big Rapids, MI so I assume it went there.

The person driving it got pulled over and arrested Thursday morning driving in Detroit. The license plate was still on it! Real smart eh?

I had to pay $78 to get it out of impound. I asked Varsity Lincoln Mercury, where it was stolen, if they would take care of the mirrors, no answer for sure yet. So, overall I'm out about $200 total in personal effects and towing fees. Not bad considering my insurance decided that Denso plugs, bullet-proof transmission, and new rear gears are maintenance items and therefore not covered. I'd recommend that you ask your insurance what you're covered for if it's stolen or totaled.

What happened is that Varsity had it for service (front suspension squeak, binding passenger window, heated seat switch backlight inop, & driver's seat squeak). They took it out Tuesday for a test drive for the suspension and then left it parked outside their garage at about noon. They went back at 3:00 to get it and it was gone. They didn't notify me or Police until Wednesday afternoon. And they claim they have no liability for it being stolen. The contract that you always sign that states they're not liable for anything beyond their control, was in the car when it was stolen.

Anyway, thank-you everyone for your concern and looking out for my Marauder. Don't let yours get stolen.

[TripleTransAm]

The car was left outside the garage at noon and by 3pm it was gone...

How did the perp overcome the PATS system? How quick is it to overcome a PATS system, such that it can be done right outside the garage without anyone noticing?

And as Barry mentioned: did you get your keys back from the police?

I find it repulsive that the dealer would even d*ck around with you on fixing the mirrors because of their negligence. Even more repulsive is the thought that it was most likely an inside job.

Sounds like this dealer needs to be hung out to dry...

[Bluerauder]

The only damage appears to be that both exterior mirrors are broken.

Looks also like the passenger windshield wiper is bent. Glad to hear that your Blue MM was recovered without too much wrong. :D


I do now have a nice collection of rap music CDs that were left in the car

Unless you like rap ... maybe running a couple Frank Sinatra songs through it will reset the vocabulary on your unit. :rofl:


I asked Varsity Lincoln Mercury, where it was stolen, if they would take care of the mirrors, no answer for sure yet. Don't let yours get stolen.
The manager at Varsity should be bending over backwards to make this right for you. It was obviously their fault and the car, the keys, and the location were all completely under their control. They blew it regardless of the :bs: liability clause in their service agreement. I think any small claims court would rule in your favor in that a customer has a reasonable expectation that the service department would exercise due caution is securing your vehicle. I know that sounds like a hassle ... but if Varsity doesn't do the right thing on their own hook, gather the evidence, and take the bastages to court.

[merc406]

I agree with TTA, and *****likehell until u get what you need from this dealer, they will come around maybe atleast to pay your ins. deduct.

We had a breakin at the bodyshop back in the 70's, theives stole 12 cars of their wheels and tires, the people that had ins. were ok but the 3 that did not were out of luck until our manager stepped in and buried the cost of them.

[CRUZTAKER]

How did the perp overcome the PATS system?
ok....I'm at a loss here...why does everyone keep asking this question?:confused:

THE KEYS WERE IN THE CAR!!!! THE KEY IS WHAT OVERCOMES THE PATS!!!

You do it everytime you start your.

[CRUZTAKER]

....sorry....the PATS question is driving me crazy.

Anyway, you shouldn't even need a lawer to handle this one. If you were a tad closer, I could wrap this up in a few days. They left your keys in your car, unattended, and that was fully in their control and is not covered by their clauses.

You can do this, it's really easy. Call me if you like. The average Joe can wrap this one up with a little effort.

Call the BBB first and lodge a complaint. If they are a member, they MUST respond. If they do, you'll have a hearing, present your evidence, demand they pay for all repairs and cleaning of the vehicle. I mean EVERYTHING! Every cost you incurred while that car was out of their possession.

I've done this, and WON. The cost to handle it this way is zero. Just time, legwork, evidence retrieval, and some nicely written statements. Color glossys help too. I'm telling you dude, if this were me....I'd be all over this one. I'd have their asses for sure. Open and shut this case is.

DO IT! DO IT! DOOOOO IT!!! Call the BBB and get the ball rolling.

BTW: Don't clean it till you get pics of ALL the damage. Save your original dealer work report that shows when the car was left in their possesion. Get the police copies of statements and reports from the dealers original complaint/notification of the car missing. Get the officers report from when the vehicle was recovered and make sure the report notes the owners keys in the ignition. If it's not noted, go the the station and speak with the officer and/or his supervisor and have it put in the report. It would be helpfull to get a copy of the perps statement if he made one as well. Get pics of where the car was parked...in fact, park your car there and take the pics as well.

Hell....I'd stand across the street and hold a big azz sign that said " MY CAR WAS STOLEN FROM SO AND SO L/M CAUSE THEY LEFT THE KEYS IN IT WHILE IT WAS BEING SERVICED".
OMG I'd have so much fun on this one...:cool:

[Petrograde]

damn good advice Barry!

ahess77,.. dude,.. fight this $h!t!

[TripleTransAm]

ok....I'm at a loss here...why does everyone keep asking this question?:confused:

THE KEYS WERE IN THE CAR!!!! THE KEY IS WHAT OVERCOMES THE PATS!!!

You do it everytime you start your.


I KNOW! That's what I'm getting at... the keys must have been in the car, or in someone's hands that was involved.

[GordonB]

ahess77,
Time to get a lawyer and get grief & aggravation added to the total damages as well. BTW, the dealer IS LIABLE for any car left with them. This dealer is guilty of NEGLIGENCE at the very least.
Worst case, take them yourself to small claims court.
GordonB

[Brother Mike]

If you would like I can probably get you the name and phone # of the person at FoMoCo who handles Varsity. You might want to even email them a link to this post so they can see that their reputation is about to be shredded. DO NOT let them skate on this; they should pay 100% of all costs.

[grzellmer]

Use their contract against them You mentioned the contract says they are not response for "... anything outside of their control.". Somebody correct me if my logic is flawed but taking the keys out of the car and locking it IS WITHIN THEIR CONTROL!!

Very stupid on their part. A couple hundred for mirrors is cheap. Go to small claims court and ask for damages, compensation for time off work, etc... No judge is going to refuse you.

[CRUZTAKER]

I KNOW! That's what I'm getting at... the keys must have been in the car, or in someone's hands that was involved.
Sorry man...you got get vBcode savvy and put the [quote] between your posts.:rolleyes:
I'm thinking you are actually saying that....sorry....

This whole VARSITY thing has me really worked up....I'm thinking road trip....

[TripleTransAm]

Misunderstanding, Barry... I was taking the liberty of recapping the details of this escapade. ie. car disappeared in mid afternoon, right by the garage, would have had to defeat PATS if they didn't have easy access to the keys, etc...

In other words, like bloody h*ll they didn't leave the m*****f*****g keys in the car...

OR some dealer monkey wasn't in on some inside plot to get their hands on the car!

Either way, I think it would REALLY be in the dealer's best interest to make this MM owner a happy camper if they ever want to service another car ever again.

(just another reason why I NEVER leave my cars unattended if they ever have to be serviced, whether the dealer likes it or not)

[Vortex]

It seems to me that dealer would be bending over backwards to "make things right" after their screwup. Regardless of their claim of "no insurance" or whatever is printed on their tickets, you have a real, legitimate claim against them and I would for sure take em to small claims court. Just call their GM and tell them that and I bet they take care of things. Good luck.

[David Morton]

... maybe running a couple Frank Sinatra songs through it will reset the vocabulary on your unit....Sinatra would have loved this car. :cool4:

You've got 'em by the short hairs. Remember what Bob Haldeman used to say, "When you've got 'em by the b@lls, their hearts and minds will follow."

[Dan]

If I am not mistaken they allow you to sue for legal fees as part of a small claim.

That being the case, what do you care if the lawyer charges $175.00 an hour? Use it in your favor, hire the lawyer, have them write a letter with your demands.

Once that happens they will take notice.

If you are in possession of the contract that THEY should be in possession of that will further bolster you case when demonstrating their carelessness.

Dan

[Festus]

First off congratulations AHESS77 on the recovery of your Marauder. As a blue Marauder owner too I can relate.

Since it ended happily I have a funny story about a dealer screwup I witnessed once.

Mrs. Festus and I were at a dealership one time and there was a bit of a commotion going on. It turns out another couple had come in to look at cars and had stupidly left their keys in the car. Well the dealership was loading up a truck with used cars. As you can probably guess by now, the guys loading the truck mistook the couple's car for one of the ones they were loading, and so they loaded it.

By the time anyone realized what had happened the car and the truck it was parked on were well on their way to Florida. Did I mention this was Virginia? By the way this was before cell phones and they couldn't get the driver on CB. I never found out what happened in the end but as we were leaving the Sales Manager was heading south in his fastest car.

[gpfarrell]

Um, i think it would be great fun we to torturing their service department...

"Can i help you?"
"Yeah, how much to rotate the tires on my MM?"

or

"I need a sunroof switch for my 2003 MM... can you look that up for me?"

"I got an 85 Mark VII with that diesel... can you tell me the gap on the spark plugs...."

Do the have a toll-free number?

[SergntMac]

"Yeah, how much to rotate the tires on my MM?"
"I need a sunroof switch for my 2003 MM... can you look that up for me?"
"I got an 85 Mark VII with that diesel... can you tell me the gap on the spark plugs..."

Do the have a toll-free number?
Dude...You are mean!

[MI2QWK4U]

As compensation for the dealer's carelessness, make them pay for a complete Lo-jack system install.

With Lojack, your car would have been found within the hour.
Was thinking about it for my car...I am sure its a 700-800 add-on.

Get a contingency lawyer and sue for emotional distress. After all it is a blue MM, who wouldn't be distressed!

That statement is a pipe dream at best, and not true at all.
Not many, if any, departments even use lojack any more. Most of the departments in the tri county metro detroit area dont even have the lojack equipement in the cars anymore. It isnt a requirement for a police department to use lojack. It is voluntary, and a lot of departments got tired of having to take up valuable space in an over crowded scout car. Lojack doesnt pay the departments to use its equipment, to recover stolen cars that owners pay lojack to put in the car in the first place. So basically all these people pay lojack for the equipment, and the police recover the cars for them, basically the police work for lojack. We ditched our lojack equipement years ago like most of the smart departments around town. With the advent of laptops, radar units, in car cameras and its monitor, shotgun racks, the radios, lojack is out of luck.....
So buyer beware, lojack may not be as good a bargain as you think. I doubt detroit even uses lojack any more, if a detective is involved then it was probably involved in a major crime and it was recovered as a result of that, not by a lojack hit. If you cant tell, I think lojack is a huge waste of time or effort.

[MI2QWK4U]

This subject raises a good question in my mind..... even when law enforcement agencies broadcast a lookout on this car.... I wonder how many cops even know what a Marauder is? Will they know what to be on the lookout for? :confused:


This is the Motor City, and we know what the Marauder is. I can think of at least 2 bank robberies involving Marauders in the Metro Detroit and suburbs. Since this area of Michigan has the most Marauders sold as a market in the country, the officers know what it is. Dont kid yourself, I didnt need to tell my guys more than once what a Marauder was! Besides, color and Plate are what they key in on.

[jgc61sr2002]

I agree the dealer should be more than willing to restore your Marauder to the condition is was when you brought it there. IMO your insurance company should cover your loss. Good luck.

[Dan]

Um, i think it would be great fun we to torturing their service department...

"Can i help you?"
"Yeah, how much to rotate the tires on my MM?"

or

"I need a sunroof switch for my 2003 MM... can you look that up for me?"

"I got an 85 Mark VII with that diesel... can you tell me the gap on the spark plugs...."

Do the have a toll-free number?

Awesome idea. It would be fun.

[Dan]

That statement is a pipe dream at best, and not true at all.
Not many, if any, departments even use lojack any more. Most of the departments in the tri county metro detroit area dont even have the lojack equipement in the cars anymore. It isnt a requirement for a police department to use lojack. It is voluntary, and a lot of departments got tired of having to take up valuable space in an over crowded scout car. Lojack doesnt pay the departments to use its equipment, to recover stolen cars that owners pay lojack to put in the car in the first place. So basically all these people pay lojack for the equipment, and the police recover the cars for them, basically the police work for lojack. We ditched our lojack equipement years ago like most of the smart departments around town. With the advent of laptops, radar units, in car cameras and its monitor, shotgun racks, the radios, lojack is out of luck.....
So buyer beware, lojack may not be as good a bargain as you think. I doubt detroit even uses lojack any more, if a detective is involved then it was probably involved in a major crime and it was recovered as a result of that, not by a lojack hit. If you cant tell, I think lojack is a huge waste of time or effort.

This is a sad commentary. The lojack is a very good idea and would be better if more PDs used it.

Working for LoJack? Gimme a break. The PD worsks for taxpayers (or so they should be) and if the taxpayers want a solution that makes it easier for you to track their stolen car then any PD should be up for it.

I am sorry but when I read comments like this I get very frustrated. If my MM were stolen and it had LoJack I would want every cop car to have it in-car. Make room for it!

Dan

[MI2QWK4U]

This is a sad commentary. The lojack is a very good idea and would be better if more PDs used it.

Working for LoJack? Gimme a break. The PD worsks for taxpayers (or so they should be) and if the taxpayers want a solution that makes it easier for you to track their stolen car then any PD should be up for it.

I am sorry but when I read comments like this I get very frustrated. If my MM were stolen and it had LoJack I would want every cop car to have it in-car. Make room for it!

Dan

Don't be fustrated Dan, not much can be done about it. Lojack is a business selling a service to customers. They make use of police officers to acutally finish the job by finding these cars. Its a great idea for a business...they have no "overhead", just profit. I dont think its law enforcement's job to subsidise a private sector money making business by their using their product.
Have you seen the inside of a police car lately? the Lojack equipment takes up space both in the trunk (reciever unit) and the front seat (head unit). Like I said above, we need room for equipement vital to doing our primary job, and that is protecting life, property is a distant second.
I hate to burst anyones bubble on how accurate lojack is, but it isnt. I can recall 10 or so years ago when we had the lojack setup. On midnights we tried to lock in a signal on a stolen vehicle that we were close to. It was a quiet night and there werent any runs, so we tried to track this car down...according to the signal stregth we were within a half mile, and the target wasnt moving, but it kept giving off conflicting info. Bottom line... we tried for an hour to track it down...the target car was stolen all right, but it had been recovered stripped in detroit and was now sitting at the dealership body shop. We were never more than 6 or 7 blocks from the car, but it wouldnt lead us to it as advertised. I went to the training supplied by Lojack when it first came out, they claimed that you can track a moving subject car without a problem...not!
Now....something like Onstar works really well. We have had Onstar give us a location for a stolen vehicle and it be within 100 yards of where they tell us!

[Dan]

Thanks for your reply. Also, my apologies if my post sounded angry. I reread it this AM and it seemed that way to me.

I was unaware of the fallibility of the LoJack system.

Dan

[Macon Marauder]

One of our attorney members should weigh in here...

We had a car stolen from a transmission shop years ago. Same deal with the disclaimers. One of the cops told us that was BS. Turns out, the shop had insurance for just that sort of contingency. They paid for EVERYTHING! And since the car was taken on a wild ride through the woods, and the interior was attacked with a razor, they paid big!

The dealer IS responsible and IS liable!

[CBT]

Oh, thank you very much! Still new to this posting thing and checking replies....
CBT - Welcome to the MM site. :welcome: The best on the net, good info and nice folks. :D

[2003 MIB]

Oh, thank you very much! Still new to this posting thing and checking replies....
I think you're going to fit in just fine.

[tmac1337]

Don't be fustrated Dan, not much can be done about it. Lojack is a business selling a service to customers. They make use of police officers to acutally finish the job by finding these cars. Its a great idea for a business...they have no "overhead", just profit. I dont think its law enforcement's job to subsidise a private sector money making business by their using their product.
Have you seen the inside of a police car lately? the Lojack equipment takes up space both in the trunk (reciever unit) and the front seat (head unit). Like I said above, we need room for equipement vital to doing our primary job, and that is protecting life, property is a distant second.
I hate to burst anyones bubble on how accurate lojack is, but it isnt. I can recall 10 or so years ago when we had the lojack setup. On midnights we tried to lock in a signal on a stolen vehicle that we were close to. It was a quiet night and there werent any runs, so we tried to track this car down...according to the signal stregth we were within a half mile, and the target wasnt moving, but it kept giving off conflicting info. Bottom line... we tried for an hour to track it down...the target car was stolen all right, but it had been recovered stripped in detroit and was now sitting at the dealership body shop. We were never more than 6 or 7 blocks from the car, but it wouldnt lead us to it as advertised. I went to the training supplied by Lojack when it first came out, they claimed that you can track a moving subject car without a problem...not!
Now....something like Onstar works really well. We have had Onstar give us a location for a stolen vehicle and it be within 100 yards of where they tell us!


I have had the same experiences with lojack in the past. It is a bogus system that offers little chance of getting your car returned to you. The system is highly un-accurate, a noise beeping nuisance at best. I used to turn the volume off on my unit as it would be set off by numerous outside interference sources. The truth is Lojack only allots a very small number of units per departments that ask for it. I work for a 500 man/women dept. that has at the most 15 units, with lojack unwilling to supply more.....which is okay they are crap anyway and we mostly ignore the units we have.

If you want your car back, you have to go with a GPS system. Onstar will locate to an intersection, and will give speed and direction.

[MarkVI351]

well, what happend since then? did the dealer pay for damages and fees?