NEW BFGoodrich G-Force New Tread design [Archive]

TAF

11-15-2004, 06:04 AM

More pics in the Gallery...

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/83IMG_1949-med.JPG (http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/showphoto.php/photo/6097/size/big/password/263233a0dd0b5fe0053e90d33d4b6b a0/sort/1/cat/last1)

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/83IMG_1946-med.JPG (http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/showphoto.php/photo/6094/size/big/password/263233a0dd0b5fe0053e90d33d4b6b a0/sort/1/cat/last1)

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/83IMG_1942-med.JPG (http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/showphoto.php/photo/6090/size/big/password/263233a0dd0b5fe0053e90d33d4b6b a0/sort/1/cat/last1)

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/83IMG_1945-med.JPG (http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/showphoto.php/photo/6093/size/big/password/263233a0dd0b5fe0053e90d33d4b6b a0/sort/1/cat/last1)

Marauderjack

11-15-2004, 06:10 AM

Are they noisey???? :confused: :confused:

Marauderjack :cool:

sailsmen

11-15-2004, 06:13 AM

What sizes?

TAF

11-15-2004, 06:19 AM

Are they noisey???? :confused: :confused:

Marauderjack :cool:No...but I might not be the best to ask this, as I recently had my complete passenger cabin (including headliner) "carpeted" with Dynamat. It's "whisper quiet" inside with just a low rumble from the exhaust.

What sizes?OEM 235/50/18s up front

NEW 255/55/18s on the rears

and BTW...these are specific directional tires....

sailsmen

11-15-2004, 06:39 AM

I need new rears, are they they KDW2, on stock rims, any clearance issues?

ADE 1000

11-15-2004, 07:12 AM

Are these the KDWS or KDW2? Do they feel better than the originals?

TAF

11-15-2004, 07:24 AM

I need new rears, are they they KDW2, on stock rims, any clearance issues?
Yes. Yes. And no problems with clearance, but keep in mind...I have these on the rear instead of the "fat & junky" Tokico OEMs...
http://www.legalknevil.com/albums/Marauder/akf.sized.jpg (http://www.legalknevil.com/gallery/Marauder/akf?full=1)

Are these the KDWS or KDW2? Do they feel better than the originals?
KDW2s...and they most certainly are better than the OEMs...

Click HERE to learn more about the NEW BFG's (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+T%2FA+KDW+2&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=555VR8GFTAKDW2RF&fromCompare1=yes)

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/bfg/bfg_gforce_ta_kdw2_ci2_l.jpght tp://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/bfg/bfg_gforce_ta_kdw2_ci1_l.jpght tp://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/bfg/bfg_gforce_ta_kdw2_ci3_l.jpg

duhtroll

11-15-2004, 07:46 AM

How's the ride in comparison to the OEMs? Smoother? Firmer?

Thx,
-A

TAF

11-15-2004, 07:48 AM

How's the ride in comparison to the OEMs? Smoother? Firmer?

Thx,
-A
I can't say just for the tires, as I had a complete new, custom QA1 front and rear system put in at the same time. Which BTW...made the ride MUCH better than stock in several ways...lowered, sporty, yet smooth as silk over large bumps. PLUS...it ALWAYS feels good to have fresh "meats" on! :up:

CRUZTAKER

11-15-2004, 09:22 AM

Click HERE to learn more about the NEW BFG's (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+T%2FA+KDW+2&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=555VR8GFTAKDW2RF&fromCompare1=yes)Good idea starting a new thread Tod, we kinda got off track talking tires in your 'coil-over' thread. Atleast I have enough faculties today to actually see your links.:P

I like your choice of sizes. Many of us, me included, took advantage of Tire Racks awesome sale on our OEM tires last month, therefore new tires are now 10-12,000 miles out again.

Perhaps in the coming months BFG will offer exact OEM sizes for those of us reluctant to alter sizes. Actually, I don't really care, I just look back and wished I had waited to buy. But $89 per tire was hard to resist.

The g-Force T/A KDW-2 tires feature subtle black letter styling and will initially be available in selected sizes. Sizes will expand throughout the year to include 60-, 55-, 50-, 45-, 40-, and 35-series, V- and Z-speed rated sizes for 17" to 24" wheel diameters.
The link Tod posted above tells some of the story, I think I'll call and find out every size in 18 available at this time.

EDIT: Apparently there is a vast selection already available in 18".
Check THIS (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=BFGoodrich&model=g-Force+T%2FA+KDW+2&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&partnum=555VR8GFTAKDW2RF) out!

wesman

11-15-2004, 09:40 AM

Well I think I just found my new tires for the OE wheels. TAF you are blazing a path for all of us. The 255/55/18 rear tire is 29 inches tall !!! 24mpg here I come. Good max load rating too, 2271 lbs. Stock is 1929 lbs.

wesman

11-15-2004, 09:50 AM

TAF why is the center section of your brake rotor brown? Also what lugs are you using, are they lightweight?

sailsmen

11-15-2004, 09:53 AM

Thanks Todd, ordered the rears they were bald at 12K, will wait a little while to replace the fronts.

TAF

11-15-2004, 10:15 AM

TAF why is the center section of your brake rotor brown? Also what lugs are you using, are they lightweight?'Cause I just washed the car late yesterday and the wheel stuff I use puts "gunk" on the rotors until I take it out and drive it...then it goes away. I washed the car and put her to bed last night...just pulled it out for these pics.

Lugs...these are some special lugs that we found for Marty's car at a high-end wheel wholesaler here in Atlanta. They are SWEET! We got "keys" for them as well...I think they look MUCH better than having one lug like the McGard stuff...unless "carl Criminal" is totin' around an airgun and the correct allen-head key...he ain't gettin these off.

2005Marauder

11-15-2004, 11:17 AM

That design has been around for almost two years. What is new is the many more sizes that are now available. Thanks for the update as I'm nearing 14,000 miles with winter coming on.

jgc61sr2002

11-15-2004, 01:00 PM

IMO The new design looks like you will have greater traction and somewhat louder than the factory tires.

Marauder

11-15-2004, 01:29 PM

I'm really loving the tread design but am not crazy about the bigger size difference front to rear because of the 255/55-18. Either way, I was considering these becasue my rears are almost gone at 19k miles.

:D

TAF

11-15-2004, 01:32 PM

I'm really loving the tread design but am not crazy about the bigger size difference front to rear becasue of the 255/55-18. Either way, I was considering these becasue my rears are almost gone at 19k miles.

:D
It's less than 1/2" (.4 of an inch to be exact)....AND..you get that on each side in additional "contact-patch" as well. :up:

Marauder

11-15-2004, 01:47 PM

It's less than 1/2" (.4 of an inch to be exact)....AND..you get that on each side in additional "contact-patch" as well. :up:

That's true. :)

Marauder386

11-15-2004, 01:47 PM

UH OH ... I see what I want in my big, fat obnoxious stocking for Christmas !! :lovies2:

MMSuperFan

11-15-2004, 02:17 PM

No...but I might not be the best to ask this, as I recently had my complete passenger cabin (including headliner) "carpeted" with Dynamat. It's "whisper quiet" inside with just a low rumble from the exhaust.

OEM 235/50/18s up front

NEW 255/55/18s on the rears

and BTW...these are specific directional tires....

These are the same tires I bought in May of this year. Great traction and only neglible noise difference.

BTW, it is interesting the difference in reactions to TAF having done this and when I requested information about these tires before I purchased them. Not so many nay sayers for TAF. :rolleyes:

TAF

11-15-2004, 02:34 PM

These are the same tires I bought in May of this year. Great traction and only neglible noise difference.
So...are they wearing well for you? What PSI are you running? (I've got 35 PSI all the way around and it feels good)

BTW, it is interesting the difference in reactions to TAF having done this and when I requested information about these tires before I purchased them. Not so many nay sayers for TAF. :rolleyes:
I don't understand what exactly you mean by this^^^...I looked up your thread, HERE (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11149) saw you got some good comments from some folks, then you mentioned you'd purchased them and that was it.

"A picture paints a thousand words.... "

Smokie

11-15-2004, 06:55 PM

Todd those tires look great !!! Do the larger rears require adjustment to speedo ??? Is it still accurate ?

TAF

11-15-2004, 06:57 PM

Todd those tires look great !!! Do the larger rears require adjustment to speedo ??? Is it still accurate ?
Not that I know of....

Marauder

11-16-2004, 06:57 AM

Not that I know of....

I think your speedo is off by like 1mph at 60mph. I can live with that.

The more I look at your pictures, the more I'm considering them. Gimme a few more days and I'll be ordering a set...haha.

TAF

11-16-2004, 07:04 AM

I think your speedo is off by like 1mph at 60mph. I can live with that.

The more I look at your pictures, the more I'm considering them. Gimme a few more days and I'll be ordering a set...haha.
Just be sure you do what I did...and click on the TireRack ad on the home page here so the site gets credit for the sale. :up:

MMSuperFan

11-16-2004, 03:34 PM

So...are they wearing well for you? What PSI are you running? (I've got 35 PSI all the way around and it feels good)

I don't understand what exactly you mean by this^^^...I looked up your thread, HERE (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11149) saw you got some good comments from some folks, then you mentioned you'd purchased them and that was it.

"A picture paints a thousand words.... "

Yes the tires are wearing great, tremendous improvement over the KDWS, especially in the traction department. As far as the wear, I don't have a 6k baseline from my OEM's for a comparison so wouldn't help much to measure tread at this point.

The other comments were not meant for you, TAF. You would have to have been there I guess. :burnout:

Glenn

11-16-2004, 08:28 PM

TAF

11-16-2004, 09:12 PM

Can someone give me the width increase of the 285/60-18 over the OEM rear 245/55s. Also, what is the height difference between these two tires. What is the opinion of the new 285/60s as a replacement for the 245/55s?

Glenn
Glenn,

I'm certainly not a tire expert..but, I worked with SHANKIN to determine whether the 255/55/18s I went with would accomplish what I wanted to accomplish. CLICK HERE (http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/assets/pdf/gforce_ta_kdw.pdf) for a complete listing of the sizes/specs of these. You'll see the rim variances and the diameter measurements.

Hope this helps. If all else fails...do what I did and ask SHANKIN this Saturday after breakfast. :up:

Marauder

11-17-2004, 06:45 AM

I think 285/60-18 may be too tall to even fit in the rear fender well. The width works but the height almost 3" taller than the stock 245/55-18.

QWK SVT

11-17-2004, 06:51 PM

Can someone give me the width increase of the 285/60-18 over the OEM rear 245/55s. Also, what is the height difference between these two tires. What is the opinion of the new 285/60s as a replacement for the 245/55s?

Glenn
That's waaay too tall a tire! If you really want to go wide (keeping with the stock rim), why not try 285/40-18 out back, and 245/40-18 up front?

This combo keeps the original 1.05:1 ratio for tire height. It's actually a little more than an inch shorter, but that shouldn't be too noticeable, if at all. Also, it would impact your effective rearend ratio (stock gears would be like having 3.75's), but a tuner could easily compensate.

GarageMahal

11-22-2004, 10:39 PM

No...but I might not be the best to ask this, as I recently had my complete passenger cabin (including headliner) "carpeted" with Dynamat. It's "whisper quiet" inside with just a low rumble from the exhaust.

OEM 235/50/18s up front

NEW 255/55/18s on the rears

and BTW...these are specific directional tires....

Any report on how these do in the water? It rains here :o

I have been happy with the OEMs for summer driving but need a bit more traction after I get the 4:10 gears installed (soon I hope). I leave 20 feet of rubber on dry pavement now and am afraid what the gears will do to me and my tires :burn:

jta

sailsmen

11-23-2004, 05:15 AM

I have the rears and drove thru 4 fronts with hellacious rain on the Interstate, no probs.

BruteForce

11-25-2004, 11:28 AM

No...but I might not be the best to ask this, as I recently had my complete passenger cabin (including headliner) "carpeted" with Dynamat. It's "whisper quiet" inside with just a low rumble from the exhaust.

OEM 235/50/18s up front

NEW 255/55/18s on the rears

and BTW...these are specific directional tires....

I just ordered a set. Anybody know why the fronts are more expensive then the rears (+$70 per)? It seems bass akwards to me. There's more material in the larger rears. :confused:

TAF

11-25-2004, 02:58 PM

I just ordered a set. Anybody know why the fronts are more expensive then the rears (+$70 per)? It seems bass akwards to me. There's more material in the larger rears. :confused:
Not unlike the OEM sizes, with the rears being much more expensive than the front. The front being a much more popular size they run more (seems to me it would be the other way, but that's what TireRack told me).

BTW...update...we had some "frog-stanglin' rain" for the last 3 days....I was out and about all day on Tuesday and these things are INCREDIBLE in the rain. I couldn't believe the size of puddles/running across the road water I was hitting with NO hydroplaning. I drove through stuff that wih the OEM tires...I just know I'd start to feel the front give-way. No problems with these things. :up:

BruteForce

11-25-2004, 03:05 PM

BTW...update...we had some "frog-stanglin' rain" for the last 3 days....I was out and about all day on Tuesday and these things are INCREDIBLE in the rain. I couldn't believe the size of puddles/running across the road water I was hitting with NO hydroplaning. I drove through stuff that wih the OEM tires...I just know I'd start to feel the front give-way. No problems with these things. :up:

Rain is one thing we have no shortage of up here. ;)

Looking forward to new shoes to go with my new lowered front rAKE

TAF

11-25-2004, 03:06 PM

Rain is one thing we have no shortage of up here. ;)

Looking forward to new shoes to go with my new lowered front rAKE
You are going to LOVE these with the QA1s :up:

And your front swaybar :up:

Hey..your car will handle just as good as mine... :cool:

BruteForce

11-25-2004, 03:08 PM

You are going to LOVE these with the QA1s :up:

And your front swaybar :up:

Hey..your car will handle just as good as mine... :cool:

we stand on the shoulders of giants. :D

GarageMahal

11-26-2004, 09:49 AM

I have the rears and drove thru 4 fronts with hellacious rain on the Interstate, no probs.

BTW...update...we had some "frog-stanglin' rain" for the last 3 days....I was out and about all day on Tuesday and these things are INCREDIBLE in the rain. I couldn't believe the size of puddles/running across the road water I was hitting with NO hydroplaning. I drove through stuff that wih the OEM tires...I just know I'd start to feel the front give-way. No problems with these things. :up:

Thanks for the updates, I will most likely get a set of these in the spring when I take the snows off. I like the OEM tires but need just a bit more grip in the summer.

jta

martyo

11-26-2004, 09:56 AM

we stand on the shoulders of giants. :D

In Todd's case that is truer than you realize!!!

:rofl:

BruteForce

12-02-2004, 11:31 PM

New KDW2s mounted today. They are a little noisier than stock but its hard to tell over the growl of my headers. It was rainy and wet so I couldn't give 'em a serious test though they did spin nicely leaving the installer's lot :burnout:

Anyone interested in a set of OEM BFGs with about 7K on 'em?

wesman

01-14-2005, 08:12 PM

How are these tires holding out Todd?

Donny Carlson

01-14-2005, 08:20 PM

How are these tires holding out Todd?
They are showing amazing lack of wear and great performance, especially parked at Team Collision the past two weeks.:o:o

martyo

01-14-2005, 09:48 PM

....especially parked at Team Collision the past two weeks.:o:o

:eek: :eek: :eek:

03SILVERSTREAK

01-14-2005, 10:33 PM

BruteForce

01-14-2005, 10:56 PM

$$$$ ???? :whistle:

PM sent. :whistle: :whistle:

TAF

01-16-2005, 05:11 PM

How are these tires holding out Todd?
They are the "Mac-Daddy" tire for those of us wanting to do more than go straight.....

.....You're going to LOVE these tires. I think they are the quintessential tire for the Marauder that wants to do more than 1320 ft in a straight line.

Now...for the FULL affect...get those fronts and you'll grip the dry road like never before, and in the rain...fagetaboutit....these things won't hydroplane if you try. They are phenomenal all around! Congrats! :up:

John F. Russo

01-17-2005, 12:18 PM