View Full Version : No Speed Limitor (govenor) on 2004???
Directedby
11-15-2004, 03:10 PM
I was cruising back from Ojai, California and the next mile of road ahead was clear - so floored it.
I expected the car to be limited at 110 MPH, but took it to 122 MPH then backed off - could not tell how much more it could go.
One of the reasons I was going to reflash my chip was because of the 110 limit on the factory chip.
My 2004 is stock.
Anybody else here have any experience with this limitor - 2003 or 2004?
ADE 1000
11-15-2004, 03:15 PM
I thought the car was limited to 117 mph, although I have not verified it myself.
MARAUDER S/C #5
11-15-2004, 03:25 PM
I know a stock 03 will do 118 mph. (on a private track of course):D
I was cruising back from Ojai, California and the next mile of road ahead was clear - so floored it.
I expected the car to be limited at 110 MPH, but took it to 122 MPH then backed off - could not tell how much more it could go.
One of the reasons I was going to reflash my chip was because of the 110 limit on the factory chip.
My 2004 is stock.
Anybody else here have any experience with this limitor - 2003 or 2004?
Over the last 2 1/2 years I've heard the limit is anywhere from 116 - 124 MPH, wherever it falls exactly...it's there, believe me. I've watched bone-stock Marauders on a Dyno hit it...and have read the reports from those here that have hit the "envelope". And Paul...Ojai is not the route I'd thought I'd see a post like this from you. Now, coming back from Palm Springs...I can see that. :cool: ;)
Silver_04
11-15-2004, 04:24 PM
Before I got rid of mine it topped out at 124 on the dyno.
SergntMac
11-15-2004, 05:10 PM
Lacking real wind resistance and actual labor of moving 4500 pounds of automobile down two lane blacktop, dyno numbers can be decieving.
You can wind up an MM on any dyno, monitor gross RPM, calculate tranny and rear end gearing, and pencil in a top speed number with grade school math. But, that doesn't tell the whole story.
Neither does peeking at your MM speedo once you're into the triple digits. It's a digital/electronic signal sensed from sensors and sent to a dashboard that has been taught to act like an old school analogue speedometer. Moreover, your eyes have been taught to take a "snapshot" under this kind of real time pressure, and it's all very subjective in the aftermath of 100+ MPH drives. Both you and your MM speedo are more guessing than not. It's a lot like a crime witness/victim giving a cop a decent description of a criminal/offender. It never really matches, but it's close enough.
A Davis CarchipEX will record and download a permanent record of your top speed, and a whole lot of other neat OBDII stuff you can print out for later review. It's also very good for recording long road trips, and documenting vehicle use for business. Fleet managers (and worried parents) love them. www.davisindustries.com
If you want more instant, but not recorded data from your EEC, take a peek at the ScanGauge. It monitors and report live OBDII data, one of which is your actual speed as reported by wheel sensors to the EEC, and without the springy, bouncy stuff your speedo produces while you are trying to memorize that with both hands on the wheel, tunnel vision mode ON. One glimpse, it's stored in your brain, done deal. This gauge also monitors several more critical OBDII feeds and live too, you can program up to four at a time on your display. Trust me, it's easier to feed your brain this data, than it is to watch MM dash gauges. www.scangauge.com
One last recorder, is any GPS device. I've used the StreetPilot III for one season, and it has great travel log data capabilities, but doesn't record for download. Still, it's most accurate in actual speed, actual top speed, and a few other neat things you may want to know just about 3 non-stop hours behind the wheel. I'm sure any GPS can do this, and it's all free, you just have to buy the toy you like. www.gpscity.com
There are lots of ways to look at this 411, hope this helps you find the one that works for y'all.
Krytin
11-15-2004, 08:44 PM
Private track results on stock '03 - 130 to 135 as observed on the speedo. Held this speed for more than 5 minutes. I have no idea why I did not encounter any speed limiter and I will not be on that particular "track" again any time soon. I would not attempt that "stunt" again on any "tracks" in my locality!
Rollin'Thunder
11-15-2004, 10:06 PM
My '03 topped out at 120 mph. The Garmin 2620 GPS recorded 124 on the stock '04. :beer:
Rider90
11-16-2004, 03:58 AM
Just though I'd throw in another 124/125 MPH count for a stock 04 :burnout:
Sactown
11-16-2004, 09:16 AM
going over 120 is fun :) I-5 between Stockton and LA is a great place to experience it. Is it a private track if nobody is within sight?
shannon corkill
11-16-2004, 10:12 AM
Drove from Norman, Ok to San Diego, Ca -1400 miles in 16 1/2 hours in my stock 2003 mm. I went thru New Mexico in the middle of the night and hit 128 mph, the "track" was not that smooth to do more that 110 for extended periods. Never hit the limiter due to "track" conditions. Would not do it again though...A bear tracker, an Escort, cuban expresso, one blacked out MM, and pure luck made it happen..
GA-Marauder
11-16-2004, 11:13 AM
I was cruising back from Ojai, California and the next mile of road ahead was clear - so floored it.
I expected the car to be limited at 110 MPH, but took it to 122 MPH then backed off - could not tell how much more it could go.
One of the reasons I was going to reflash my chip was because of the 110 limit on the factory chip.
My 2004 is stock.
Anybody else here have any experience with this limitor - 2003 or 2004?
I have a stock (at least until this Saturday) 2004, and can verify something between 115 and 120 is it for mine and the limiter kicks in. Right before that, though, it still has plenty of pull. Testing done by a semi-professional at a secluded location...:coolman: :coolman: :coolman:
Ntmd8r
11-17-2004, 12:14 AM
I got clocked in conneticut doing 118 in my stock 2003...I tried arguing with the cop saying it couldn't be possible since my limiter shuts off power at 117mph....he hauled my ass to jail and left my car on the side of the road....:flamer:
Directedby
11-17-2004, 12:50 AM
I got clocked in conneticut doing 118 in my stock 2003...I tried arguing with the cop saying it couldn't be possible since my limiter shuts off power at 117mph....he hauled my ass to jail and left my car on the side of the road....:flamer:
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Sactown
11-17-2004, 09:46 PM
I got clocked in conneticut doing 118 in my stock 2003...I tried arguing with the cop saying it couldn't be possible since my limiter shuts off power at 117mph....he hauled my ass to jail and left my car on the side of the road....:flamer: LMAO! Are you serious? I guess at that point you are so screwed you might as well have fun with it.
MENINBLK
11-17-2004, 11:16 PM
I got clocked in conneticut doing 118 in my stock 2003...I tried arguing with the cop saying it couldn't be possible since my limiter shuts off power at 117mph....he hauled my ass to jail and left my car on the side of the road....:flamer:
So if your in jail, how did you write this post ?
B.C. Bake
11-17-2004, 11:31 PM
I was cruising back from Ojai, California and the next mile of road ahead was clear - so floored it.
I expected the car to be limited at 110 MPH, but took it to 122 MPH then backed off - could not tell how much more it could go.
One of the reasons I was going to reflash my chip was because of the 110 limit on the factory chip.
My 2004 is stock.
Anybody else here have any experience with this limitor - 2003 or 2004?
Hey from vegas, just wanted to say I saw in the 2004 marauder spects that the 2004 MM chip was governed at 120mph,later for now....bake........:burnout:
Scott Leininger
11-22-2004, 01:46 PM
THe CVPI has a cut off at 129 due to the drive shaft and speed rating of the tires. I have had my mm to 126 and my CVPI to 128. I had heard they had the same cut off at 129.
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