Custom Ram Air

[klmore]

Ok as many of you know I had an accident in my car and I'm getting all new bumpers among many other things. (I'm actually considering just buying a new MM since they are so cheap, but that is another story.) ;)

Anyway, I have this front bumper cover with a very small rip that I can easily fix and I was considering cutting a inlet hole under the LH headlamp and making a custom ram air set up in the bumper. If I screw it up I'm not out a dollar. I was considering a turbo style inlet painted black. I would have to run a duct under it, which would require a notch in the bumper reinforcement, but it is possible with little to no adverse safety issues. I could also mould it in to the bumper, but I'm not sure how long it would last.

I have already shaved the front emblem and I plan on doing the deck lid as well. I may do some other custom paintwork if I can do it in a manor that is true to a MM.

Any and all input is appreciated.

[jspradii]

Ok as many of you know I had an accident in my car and I'm getting all new bumpers among many other things. (I'm actually considering just buying a new one since they are so cheap, but that is another story.) ;)
Anyway, I have this front bumper cover with a very small rip that I can easily fix and I was considering cutting a inlet hole under the LH headlamp and making a custom ram air set up in the bumper. If I screw it up I'm not out a dollar. I was considering a turbo style inlet painted black. I would have to run a duct under it, which would require a notch in the bumper reinforcement, but it is possible with little to no adverse safety issues. I could also mould it in to the bumper, but I'm not sure how long it would last. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com[img] /><o:p></o:p>




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OK. Just what the HE** are you exactly talking about??????</P></FONT>

[klmore]

OK. Just what the HE** are you exactly talking about??????
</FONT>I'm not some verbose attorney.;) I'll attempt to explain myself better.:P

Some of the turbo cars running at the track have the air inlet mounted in the front face of the bumper that feed air into the turbo. I was thinking some thing like that but smaller. I know some folks are removing the drivers headlamp to get air to the airbox and this would do the same thing.

I'll see if I can find a visual aid.:)

[studio460]

That sounds like a cool, fun project!

[Bradley G]

Hey klmore,

Great idea,Sounds like you have a perfect senario to start this mod.But If your idea of cheap is, $1300.00 (front bumper cover)Can I come work for you ???.................."I work real cheap:D "
Bradley G
please keep us posted on your progress:)

[mrogerc]

Just a note of caution,

You might want to consider whether you would risk sucking a big gulp of water into your engine if you hit a flooded road.

Hydrolock would ruin your whole day, and your whole engine!

(This from a guy who regularly abuses his supercharged engine and fantasizes about what he would replace it with if it gets fried.....)

[Mike Poore]

Hey klmore,

Great idea,Sounds like you have a perfect senario to start this mod.But If your idea of cheap is, $1300.00 (front bumper cover)Can I come work for you ???.................."I work real cheap:D "
Bradley G
please keep us posted on your progress:)It's my guess jspardii's talking about getting a spare MM (since they're so cheap) not another bumper cover. A good plan, in my view, since new MM's can be had for about $24K, these days ...while they last.

The only thing about a bumper mounted forced air inlet is the issue of separating out the stuff you don't want in your engine. There was a thread about hydro-lock and a destroyed motor because water got sucked into the manifold. It's a round-about way of suggesting you incorporate some sort of trap to isolate the bad stuff from the air, before it gets to the filter.:twocents:

[Bradley G]

Hey Mike, Yeah, now that I reread his post I see I misunderstood what he was saying! thank you.

Bradley G


It's my guess jspardii's talking about getting a spare MM (since they're so cheap) not another bumper cover. A good plan, in my view, since new MM's can be had for about $24K, these days ...while they last.

The only thing about a bumper mounted forced air inlet is the issue of separating out the stuff you don't want in your engine. There was a thread about hydro-lock and a destroyed motor because water got sucked into the manifold. It's a round-about way of suggesting you incorporate some sort of trap to isolate the bad stuff from the air, before it gets to the filter.:twocents:

[merc406]

Ok as many of you know I had an accident in my car and I'm getting all new bumpers among many other things. (I'm actually considering just buying a new one since they are so cheap, but that is another story.) ;)
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Anyway, I have this front bumper cover with a very small rip that I can easily fix and I was considering cutting a inlet hole under the LH headlamp and making a custom ram air set up in the bumper. If I screw it up I'm not out a dollar. I was considering a turbo style inlet painted black. I would have to run a duct under it, which would require a notch in the bumper reinforcement, but it is possible with little to no adverse safety issues. I could also mould it in to the bumper, but I'm not sure how long it would last. <o:p></o:p>

I have already shaved the front emblem and I plan on doing the deck lid as well. I may do some other custom paintwork if I can do it in a manor that is true to a MM.


Any and all input is appreciated.




No, it looks like klmore has a spare cover and will attempt to install ram air. I think it'll work fine, if its rectangle not circular. If he uses an S pipe for the water he'll have no problems with flood waters.

[423REED]

Ok as many of you know I had an accident in my car and I'm getting all new bumpers among many other things. (I'm actually considering just buying a new one since they are so cheap, but that is another story.) ;)
Anyway, I have this front bumper cover with a very small rip that I can easily fix and I was considering cutting a inlet hole under the LH headlamp and making a custom ram air set up in the bumper. If I screw it up I'm not out a dollar. I was considering a turbo style inlet painted black. I would have to run a duct under it, which would require a notch in the bumper reinforcement, but it is possible with little to no adverse safety issues. I could also mould it in to the bumper, but I'm not sure how long it would last.



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The best looking ram air set-up that I've seen was the 1987/88 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe hood. It was a functional ram air set up to the turbo intercooler. It had two hood scoops like the 1971-73 Mach I's. It looked awsome. If L-M had produced a supercharged 2005 Marauder, a hood ram air like this would've looked great.</P>

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[klmore]

Just a note of caution,

You might want to consider whether you would risk sucking a big gulp of water into your engine if you hit a flooded road.

Hydrolock would ruin your whole day, and your whole engine!

(This from a guy who regularly abuses his supercharged engine and fantasizes about what he would replace it with if it gets fried.....)This is biggest concern, but I was planning on an S pipe to keep the water away. Maybe I could make a cover to put over it on rainy days......hmmmm

[Mike Poore]

This is biggest concern, but I was planning on an S pipe to keep the water away. Maybe I could make a cover to put over it on rainy days......hmmmm
I think you're gonna need a box of some sort with a baffle, and an outlet tube at the top feeding into the filter box. The reason I'm so damn picky about this is; one of the guys smoked his engine by running through a big muther water puddle. It collapsed the air filter on the way in and destroyed his motor. I'll go looking for the thread, as it was a real eye opener. :eek:

[Mike Poore]

This was posted by Fishman in August. You can search under Hydro lock for the entire thread. :twocents:

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If anyone is interested, I was coming home late after a really really long work day during a huge thunderstorm that had flooded a wetllands area just a few blocks from home. The street was dark, it was raining hard, and it was 3:00a when I drove right into the flooded street stalling the car. Naturally, I tried to start it again - I'm only a few blocks from home. That's what probably did it.

I pulled the plugs today, cleaned everything up, and changed the oil. I was able to turn the engine over with a breaker bar today, which I couldn't do yesterday. So, there was a glimmer of hope...

Tried to start the car and heard that gut wrenching sound of internal metal parts grinding and banging around. There's no doubt anymore.

The intake was soaked and the air filter was so wet that the vacuum from the engine ripped a big hole in it.

This is not a warranty issue - there was no defect in the car. It's something that is covered by your comprehensive coverage of your automobile insurance. Now I just need to figure out whether I'll get dropped after making the claim.

[SouLRioT]

Ok as many of you know I had an accident in my car and I'm getting all new bumpers among many other things. (I'm actually considering just buying a new MM since they are so cheap, but that is another story.) ;)

Anyway, I have this front bumper cover with a very small rip that I can easily fix and I was considering cutting a inlet hole under the LH headlamp and making a custom ram air set up in the bumper. If I screw it up I'm not out a dollar. I was considering a turbo style inlet painted black. I would have to run a duct under it, which would require a notch in the bumper reinforcement, but it is possible with little to no adverse safety issues. I could also mould it in to the bumper, but I'm not sure how long it would last.

I have already shaved the front emblem and I plan on doing the deck lid as well. I may do some other custom paintwork if I can do it in a manor that is true to a MM.

Any and all input is appreciated.



One thing you have to consider is all of the safety insulation behind the bumper. Another thing is that you could do is use the fog light openings. Just a couple of more things to think about.

[klmore]

One thing you have to consider is all of the safety insulation behind the bumper. Another thing is that you could do is use the fog light openings. Just a couple of more things to think about.
I sent the bumper out to get repaired today and inspected the underside. The structual plastic is a big issue. I thought about the fog lamp recess, but I don't want to lose the lamps. So tomorrow I will be looking at some options. It has to be easy and functional with out making it look a**.

[MENINBLK]

You can alwasy design something around a hood that looks like this...

http://www.cervinis.com/images/149_300.jpg
It just to bad that Cervinis doesn't want to do it for us.
It would be very reasonable and done the right way.
http://www.cervinis.com