Frank Hawley's Drag Racing School

[jspradii]

OK, folks. I have committed myself to getting a SuperGas competition license from Frank Hawley's NHRA school sometime next year. When I was fortunate to have dinner with Maury (CRUZER) in Dallas last week when I was there attending a seminar, he suggested that I float the idea of having MM owners participate in a Frank Hawley course either at a MMV III, or in regional club sponsored events. When I talked to him, I hadn't communicated with Hawley about the particulars: i.e. numbers, locations, etc. I contacted the folks at Hawley's, and they said that they have a couple of programs that would likely be of interest to us as MM owners: The "Bring Your Own Car" program and their "Reaction Time Clinic". I won't go into detail here (since there's too much to go into), but these programs can be reviewed at www.frankhawley.com (http://www.frankhawley.com/).
What I have been told is that, since the "Bring Your Own Car" program and "Reaction Time Clinic" would not require Frank to provide cars, mechanics, etc. it would be more like a seminar activity, and obviously much less expensive. Obviously, if we do it at Gainesville or Pomona, we'd be at tracks that Frank is already at. On the other hand, if we want to build an MMV III around it (it's a two day program), it would have to be somewhere reasonably accessible by all who would want to participate. On the other hand again, he's willing to do regional clinics at Gainesville, Pomona and at regional tracks in the northeast (ATCO, maybe) and someplace in Washington or Idaho, so that the largest number of folks could participate. Obviously, it would be best if the regional clubs got together on these; then anyone across the country could participate, but the events themselves would be sponsored by regional groups.
My point of this post is to poll the membership and find out three things: 1) Is there interest in this kind of event; 2) Would you prefer a MMV III event be planned around it, or a Regional Event; and 3) If national, where, and if regional where? I know this is very general, but as a trial balloon, I need to focus on what the group might want to do and where, and then narrow it from there.

Let me add, that anyone who successfully completes these clinics, will receive their NHRA competition license sign-off by Frank. If we are going to do something like this, the planning has to start now, so please, let me know what your thoughts are.

- Jim:banana2: :banana2: :banana2:

Poll:

Would you be interested in an event that includes Frank Hawley's Drag Racing and Reaction Time Clinics?

Would you like it to be in conjunction with MMV III?

Would you like it to be sponsored regionally?

If national, where and when?

If regional, where and when?

[jspradii]

OK, folks. I have committed myself to getting a SuperGas competition license from Frank Hawley's NHRA school sometime next year. When I was fortunate to have dinner with Maury (CRUZER) in Dallas last week when I was there attending a seminar, he suggested that I float the idea of having MM owners participate in a Frank Hawley course either at a MMV III, or in regional club sponsored events. When I talked to him, I hadn't communicated with Hawley about the particulars: i.e. numbers, locations, etc. I contacted the folks at Hawley's, and they said that they have a couple of programs that would likely be of interest to us as MM owners: The "Bring Your Own Car" program and their "Reaction Time Clinic". I won't go into detail here (since there's too much to go into), but these programs can be reviewed at www.frankhawley.com (http://www.frankhawley.com/).
What I have been told is that, since the "Bring Your Own Car" program and "Reaction Time Clinic" would not require Frank to provide cars, mechanics, etc. it would be more like a seminar activity, and obviously much less expensive. Obviously, if we do it at Gainesville or Pomona, we'd be at tracks that Frank is already at. On the other hand, if we want to build an MMV III around it (it's a two day program), it would have to be somewhere reasonably accessible by all who would want to participate. On the other hand again, he's willing to do regional clinics at Gainesville, Pomona and at regional tracks in the northeast (ATCO, maybe) and someplace in Washington or Idaho, so that the largest number of folks could participate. Obviously, it would be best if the regional clubs got together on these; then anyone across the country could participate, but the events themselves would be sponsored by regional groups.
My point of this post is to poll the membership and find out three things: 1) Is there interest in this kind of event; 2) Would you prefer a MMV III event be planned around it, or a Regional Event; and 3) If national, where, and if regional where? I know this is very general, but as a trial balloon, I need to focus on what the group might want to do and where, and then narrow it from there.

Let me add, that anyone who successfully completes these clinics, will receive their NHRA competition license sign-off by Frank. If we are going to do something like this, the planning has to start now, so please, let me know what your thoughts are.

- Jim:banana2: :banana2: :banana2:

Poll:

Would you be interested in an event that includes Frank Hawley's Drag Racing and Reaction Time Clinics?

Would you like it to be in conjunction with MMV III?

Would you like it to be sponsored regionally?

If national, where and when?

If regional, where and when?
Folks, don't just answer the poll. I'm having trouble getting the rest of the questions on a poll, so I do need your input, until I can figure the rest of this out. Thanks!

Jim

[jspradii]

By the way, I'm prepared to discuss WHY Frank Hawley's training is important, for those who take their racing seriously.


_ Jim:banana2: :banana2:

[martyo]

Poll:

Would you be interested in an event that includes Frank Hawley's Drag Racing and Reaction Time Clinics?

Yes.

Would you like it to be in conjunction with MMV III?

Yes.

Would you like it to be sponsored regionally?

Yes.

If national, where and when?

Atlanta before Legal Knevil heads back to New York

If regional, where and when?

Atlanta before Legal Knevil heads back to New York or at Englishtown after Legal Knevil comes back to New York



My answers are in red.

[martyo]

By the way, I'm prepared to discuss WHY Frank Hawley's training is important, for those who take their racing seriously.


_ Jim:banana2: :banana2:

Discuss away Jim.....

[jspradii]

Glad you're on board. I think most guys would be willing to express interest. The suggestion of your first born is not acceptable. Huh?:beer:

[MM03MOK]

If national, where and when?

If regional, where and when?I added the national/regional questions to the poll. These ^^^ must be answered as a post.

BTW: "national" will most likely not be up for debate (MVIII.)

[jspradii]

Thank you Bunny, from this obviously challenged Internet guy!!!:beer:

[jspradii]

Discuss away Jim.....
You know, Marty, for a guy who lets someone else race his car before he does, I don't have to answert that!

[martyo]

You know, Marty, for a guy who lets someone else race his car before he does, I don't have to answert that!


Well, me making the first passes in my car would be like me allowing my clients to stand up in Court and argue their own cases.....it just won't happen! :D

[MM03MOK]

Reaction Time Clinic

Did you know?

The RT number you get is actually measuring three different things.
The RT number you get may not accurately measure your reaction as a driver.
Your own driver RT is only about 50% of the RT number you receive on your ET slip.
There are three separate elements of your own physical ability to react to the tree.
Your car has a RT just like you do. And, just like you, it can vary.
Frank Hawley's Drag Racing School, with use of the exclusive DRT equipment, has the ability to measure a driver's reaction time separate from the car's reaction time.
Interested in more? Read on (http://www.frankhawley.com/rtc2.php).

[jspradii]

Thanks for posting the link Bunny. Any comments? Ideas? Good idea or not?:banana2:

[jspradii]

If there's not enough interest club-wide, I'll ask you hard core guys to chime in and maybe we can arrange a training/licensing session just for us.:banana2:

[MM03MOK]

:bump: :up:

[martyo]

If there's not enough interest club-wide, I'll ask you hard core guys to chime in and maybe we can arrange a training/licensing session just for us.:banana2:


I would like to be involved either which way.

[valkyrie]

My answers are in red.


I would be interested anytime if it is at Englishtown.

[Paul T. Casey]

Although I voted no on the poll, I certianly think this is a great idea. The average member here can greatly benefit from such training. Without mentioning any names, I've seen r/t's in the .750's to the 1.000+ range at some of the events I have attended. I am fortunate enough to have a personal coach, and the time to spend at the local tracks when I'm on the road. Just like everything else one does, the name of the game is practice and training. A well run course, like the one offered by Frank Hawley and graciously suggested by jspradii, will do nothing except move the attendees beyond the first round, and save you money on the whole buy-back thing. Let the other guy have to fork over the buyback fee to keep racing. Even if you're just a casual racer (maybe only once or twice a year) this will enhance your racing experience. I talked with a few of my "hard-core" dragging buddies, and they recognize the name, and recommend his approach. BTW, those .750 -1.000 times are on a .5 bracket tree. If you plan on doing any "heads-up" racing, which often uses a pro-tree, plan on seeing closer to 1 and a half seconds. Sign up and do this, it will only help.

[jspradii]

Thanks Paul. My primary reason for suggesting this is that all of us could use not only personal RT counsel, but also have the opportunity to have our cars individually RT'd. For amateur drivers, this could really be important. For people wanting to compete professionally, it's a must. If we could do this in conjunction with MMV III or a couple of regional events, it would make us all better drivers (not just street racers), and LOWER the cost. I, for one, want to compete professionally, either in my car or super gas/comp or otherwise. This is a great opportunity for professional training at "group" rates. Like I said, we'll take this where the interest leads us. Thanks to everyone so far for their input!:banana2: - Jim

[RVT04]

I would like to be involved either which way.
seeing as how Linda beat me three times in a row @ indy and Logan made sure everyone that wasn't watching at the track friday knew about it at the breakfast sunday morning, I figger i need all the help I can git! LOL
count me in
sincerely, #2

[FordNut]

Jim,
Any plans for an organized Frank Hawley school get-together? Since Gainesville is one of their regular locations, we could probably combine a Reinhart visit and possibly dyno day with the drag racing school trip.

[jspradii]

Not as yet; I'm not receiving the numbers I was hoping for to tie it in to MMVIII, so it may be best to try and organize the few of us who are interested to do it in conjunction with a Dennis dyno visit in Gainesville. The guys on the west coast can arrange to take the training at Pomona. I'm going to wait and see what further responses I get through January, then we'll see what we can put together. Anyone else who may be interested should either post on this open thread or PM me and let me know of interest.


Jim

[Dennis Reinhart]

Jim,
Any plans for an organized Frank Hawley school get-together? Since Gainesville is one of their regular locations, we could probably combine a Reinhart visit and possibly dyno day with the drag racing school trip.

I would love this and I might be able to rent Gainesville

[FordNut]

I would love this and I might be able to rent Gainesville
That would be great!

We discussed a joint get-together for the Sunshine State Marauders, Southeastern Marauders, and Carolina Marauders awhile back. All the MM groups would certainly be welcome!

[jspradii]

With Dennis on board, I can finally take my car to him to get some work done on it. Gainesville would be outstanding, and it's Frank Hawley's backyard. Let's see what other comments we can generate, and then make a decision in the next month or so.

Jim