Underbody Security Lighting Part #

[Agent M79]

Ray (TheDealer) was kind enough to get me the part number for the Underbody Security Lighting. Frdwrnch was kind enough to track down the 2 remaining dealers that had the part. I have made contact and arranged for payment of the part ... but ...

I need the part number again so that when I send the check to the dealership I can include the part number as part of the purchase order. I have since misplaced said part number. Yeesh.

I know this is a holiday weekend. Normally I'd just PM Ray again but I need to get this order turned around 1st thing tomorrow morning. So I thought I'd increase my chances and post openly hoping for the soonest reply.

[MarauderMark]

Ray (TheDealer) was kind enough to get me the part number for the Underbody Security Lighting. Frdwrnch was kind enough to track down the 2 remaining dealers that had the part. I have made contact and arranged for payment of the part ... but ...

I need the part number again so that when I send the check to the dealership I can include the part number as part of the purchase order. I have since misplaced said part number. Yeesh.

I know this is a holiday weekend. Normally I'd just PM Ray again but I need to get this order turned around 1st thing tomorrow morning. So I thought I'd increase my chances and post openly hoping for the soonest reply.


What is the part for?

[Agent M79]

It's lighting that goes under the body right at the driver and passenger front doors. When you unlock the car with the fob or open a door, they light up.

I liked the idea and got to see it on Donny's car in Atlanta and decided to get it. I knew it was discontinued but didn't realize there was only 2 left in the channel until I inquired yesterday.

[martyo]

Send a PM to Todd. He should have a couple of sets of these sitting up at his house. I will try to reach him by phone if I get up the nerve to call his house on Thanksgiving (his wife just adores my thousands of calls, so....).

[TAF]

Ford Accessories Part #
XW7Z-13707-AA
VALEX/SECURITY LIGHTING

Buy them through Ray...he'll give you a GREAT deal!

Here's Donny's installed...

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/2/1136DSC00335.JPG

[martyo]

^^^There ya go. And I didn't even have to endure the wrath of Mrs. Todd.

[TAF]

^^^There ya go. And I didn't even have to endure the wrath of Mrs. Todd.
Don't worry...she still hates you....

[martyo]

Don't worry...she still hates you....

That's why I took a pass on the Thanksgiving Dinner invite. I did not want her to use that knife on me!! :eek:

[CRUZTAKER]

Last two kits ehh?

I assume you mean in the country? Or just at Ray's shop?

I looked at those back when it was first mentioned. I suppose there is an easy way to rig up tube lights to the wire for the interior lights just the same, but OEM is really nice.

Is Tod planning on selling these extra kits? Or is Marty just ribbing him again?:rolleyes:

[valleyman]

You know, those look kinda nice and functional. Where/Who/How can I get them?

[BruteForce]

You know, those look kinda nice and functional. Where/Who/How can I get them?

I just ordered from fordparts.com ($128). We'll see if they can deliver.

[valleyman]

BruteForce - thank you.

[Donny Carlson]

You know, those look kinda nice and functional. Where/Who/How can I get them?
Yeah, they are nice. I get a lot of comments from people who see it at night.

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/2/1136DSC00338.JPG

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/2/1136DSC00349.JPG
http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/2/1136DSC00350.JPG

[Agent M79]

TAF:
Ray didn't have them and couldn't order any more.
Thanks for the part # !

Cruztaker:
Last 2 sets on the dealer's shelves I guess is what I am being told.

Bruteforce:
Do let me know if they come through or not. The 4-5 days to ship time frame typically means 3rd party source or drop shipping. The dealership I am planning on getting them from is charging list for them.

[martyo]

Last two kits ehh?

I assume you mean in the country? Or just at Ray's shop?

I looked at those back when it was first mentioned. I suppose there is an easy way to rig up tube lights to the wire for the interior lights just the same, but OEM is really nice.

Is Tod planning on selling these extra kits? Or is Marty just ribbing him again?:rolleyes:


Barry: We bought them a while back from Ray (The Dealer, The Man, The Legend!) for Legal Knevil and Mini Me. We just haven't gotten them installed yet. I am not planning on selling them and Todd better not be either.

I do not believe that Ford is making the kits anymore.

[CRUZTAKER]

I just ordered from fordparts.com ($128). We'll see if they can deliver.
I found a set as well. And the same goes here....we'll see if they deliver. Let ya know tomorrow.:)

[BruteForce]

I just ordered from fordparts.com ($128). We'll see if they can deliver.

No good. Got an email that the order was cancelled. :bigcry:

[TheDealer]

Ok, I didn't want to get involved in the sale of these because if I buy them from another dealer, I have to pay a higher price plus shipping to me and then to you. I thought it best for you guys to deal direct and save some money. Here's a list of all the dealers on the Ford Parts Locators that show them in stock.

DONNELL FORD OH.
888-265-3673

WALLACE L/M OH.
877-909-6547

CAPITAL L/M NC.
919-859-7000

SPARTAN L/M GA.
770-968-1245
EXT. 2886

JOHN WIESE FORD MN.
320-352-6561

COUNTRY FORD OK.
405-282-2727

NORTH HILLS L/M TX.
866-784-6456

AER TX.
800-292-0559

Happy hunting!!! Ray :banana:

[martyo]

^^^^Now that's a fair businessman!

A tip of the lynch lid to you Ray!!

[TheDealer]

I'm not all about money [since I have very little]. I'm hear to help people with their hobby. If I turn a little profit too, that's great. RAY :beer:

[TechHeavy]

Yeah, they are nice. I get a lot of comments from people who see it at night.
You guys don't laugh, but has anyone used this OEM security light set-up with neons like the Ricers have? I'm thinking bright blue neon with a shiny black MM would look awesome... I guess I need to do a search for any lighting mods...

[BruteForce]

Thanks Ray. Ordered one from Donnell Ford.

[Agent M79]

If'n y'all wouldn't mind, the set at North Hill L/M is the one I've sent a check off for. Looks like there may be a few more than 2 left tho!

[CRUZTAKER]

Thank you Ray!

This one is officially gone:

WALLACE L/M OH.
877-909-6547

I bought two cars from these folks, they are in Barberton, Ohio, and only had one left. I haven't been down to their dealership since I bought the Marauder. The are itching to see and drive one of the badass N/A Marauders in the country!

BTW: They sold it to me at cost! Nice!

[BruteForce]

BTW: They sold it to me at cost! Nice!

Mine was definitely not at cost. In fact it was $40 more then the fordparts.com shipped price. [grumble grumble]

It'll be worth it though for the :cool: factor.

[stevengerard]

II'd like one and even my wife said, "I don't like it but if you want it get it." I did get the DRLs installed but am thinking I rather save the money for Kook's from Dennis

[TechHeavy]

Ok, I didn't want to get involved in the sale of these because if I buy them from another dealer, I have to pay a higher price plus shipping to me and then to you. I thought it best for you guys to deal direct and save some money. Here's a list of all the dealers on the Ford Parts Locators that show them in stock.
Happy hunting!!! Ray :banana:
Ray, thanks for the great info! That was beyond the call of duty and greatly appreciated!

This one is now gone, (just ordered it today).

DONNELL FORD OH.
888-265-3673

He only had one in stock.

[BruteForce]

Ray, thanks for the great info! That was beyond the call of duty and greatly appreciated!

This one is now gone, (just ordered it today).

DONNELL FORD OH.
888-265-3673

He only had one in stock.

Must have had at least 2 as of yesterday 'cause I ordered one from them as well. Did you have to fax over your CC info?

[TechHeavy]

Must have had at least 2 as of yesterday 'cause I ordered one from them as well. Did you have to fax over your CC info?
No, he's sending it UPS C.O.D. Did you pay $167.20, (plus tax/shipping) as well? Darn that was steep, but I gotta have this! Way cool! :)

[BruteForce]

No, he's sending it UPS C.O.D. Did you pay $167.20, (plus tax/shipping) as well? Darn that was steep, but I gotta have this! Way cool! :)
177.20 total shipped to Washington. :(

[TheDealer]

Hey, I'm always glad to help. This is why I didn't want to get them for you. I would have had to charge you over $200.00 with shipping. Glad you guys are getting them. Ray :banana2: :beer:

[Agent M79]

With so many people getting them everyone will think they are standard equipment. :cool:

[Embassy]

I never had heard of this kit/option.

Where under the body do the lights mount? Anyone have any pics of the actual lights?

Do the kits come with instructions?

Thank you in advance.

[the_pack_rat]

Funny,

This was something I remember seeing posted WAAAAY back that I told myself I'd want to do when I got a MM.

Oddly enough I did NOT snatch any of these up at the time ... as I often do with things that may not be around forever - something for something that I KNOW I will eventually have - etc etc(a packrat is what a packrat does ya' know :P ).

So here it is yesterday(Fri) @ 5:20 PM & I see this post about how FEW there are of these.

Now I'm ANXIOUS.

Knowing I was pretty much SOL calling any of the dealers on the East Coast till Monday ... I tried all the dealers out west that Ray listed, that would have still been open.

North Hills LM in TX had already sold theirs. I got thru to both John Wiese Ford in MN as well as Country Ford in OK.

I snatched up not one - but BOTH(hey - what if the wife ever wants a MM or my set up should get damaged ?).

Like I REALLY needed to spend $167.20 x 2 PLUS shipping & handling.

Eric < --- makes note to hide these from the wife when they get here

:lol:

[Donny Carlson]

I never had heard of this kit/option.

Where under the body do the lights mount? Anyone have any pics of the actual lights?

Do the kits come with instructions?

Thank you in advance. I had my car up on the lift Friday, but didn't think to snap off any pics.

So, I went out and rolled by fat arse on the ground and snapped these off of the passenger side light:

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01474.JPG

This is the mounting plate under the door sill, sorry about my fugly face. I include this to show how well made the bracket and hardware is, and hot it looks practically new even after running on my car since April '04 as a daily driver, parked outside.
http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01466.JPG

The backet curves around to hold the lamp assembly, which is angled slightly to point the light out under the door instead of directly down at the ground. The lens is colored white and has a diffuser pattern. A rubber seal surrounds the lens to keep water out.

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01467.JPG

Sorry about the focus here.
http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01479.JPG

Close up of the bracket holding the light assembly. Again, note how it looks great even after months of use and all the rain I drove in this week.

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/1136DSC01476.JPG

This close up shows the manufacturer of the light kit.

[CRUZTAKER]

A big thanks to Wallace L/M in Akron, Ohio.

Sold me the kit for $106 out the door. Very nice kit. I am impressed with the amount of hardware that comes with it.

Bigger pic in the gallery.

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/503/627MM_004_Large_-med.jpg

[Agent M79]

Is that $106... as in ONE OH! SIX? :eek:

As my hero Dr. Smith would say: "Oh the pain! THE PAIN!"

http://www.uss-rangerguy.com/eags/Drmmith_a.jpg (http://www.uss-rangerguy.com/drsmithinsults.htm)





A big thanks to Wallace L/M in Akron, Ohio.

Sold me the kit for $106 out the door. Very nice kit. I am impressed with the amount of hardware that comes with it.

Bigger pic in the gallery.

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/503/627MM_004_Large_-med.jpg

[TechHeavy]

A big thanks to Wallace L/M in Akron, Ohio.

Sold me the kit for $106 out the door. Very nice kit. I am impressed with the amount of hardware that comes with it.
You got a great deal Barry! Thanks for the pic of the kit... answers some questions for me. The guy at the dealership wouldn't open up the box and tell me what was in it.
Mine should be here in a couple days.

[TechHeavy]

I had my car up on the lift Friday, but didn't think to snap off any pics.

So, I went out and rolled by fat arse on the ground and snapped these off of the passenger side light:
Thanks for the new pics Donny! Great! I now have a good idea of what's involved with the install, (not too much!) and where it will go. :)

[GarageMahal]

A big thanks to Wallace L/M in Akron, Ohio.

Sold me the kit for $106 out the door. Very nice kit. I am impressed with the amount of hardware that comes with it.



Does this plug into some existing connectors or do you need to splice into the stock wiring somewhere?

I think I probably missed the boat on these but I really like what they look like installed.

jta

[jgc61sr2002]

Does this plug into some existing connectors or do you need to splice into the stock wiring somewhere?

I think I probably missed the boat on these but I really like what they look like installed.

jta

Good question. I was wondering the same.

[CRUZTAKER]

There will be some splicing involved.;)

[dansenander]

Can anyone tell us what cars this came on as a stock item or part of a package?

I think they would be junk yard abundant since they are hidden under the frame and not well known of.

Maybe I can make it to the yard before the snow gets too deep to crawl under a hundred fords. I imagine they wouldn't charge more than 10 bucks.

If I find more than one decent set up, I will offer then up to you folks.

[Agent M79]

I beleive it has always been a DIO (not Ronnie James, but a Dealer Installed Option).


Can anyone tell us what cars this came on as a stock item or part of a package?

I think they would be junk yard abundant since they are hidden under the frame and not well known of.

Maybe I can make it to the yard before the snow gets too deep to crawl under a hundred fords. I imagine they wouldn't charge more than 10 bucks.

If I find more than one decent set up, I will offer then up to you folks.

[TechHeavy]

Must have had at least 2 as of yesterday 'cause I ordered one from them as well. Did you have to fax over your CC info?
Frickin', Frackin', AHHHHHH!!!!!! :mad2:

I was told I had the part on Saturday and was called today to inform me that it had already been sold... Now it's too late!!! No more in stock... ANYWHERE!!! :mad2:

BruteForce must have gotten the one I thought I had!

Good luck guys, but I was told there are none left available in the country! If anyone has an extra one of these... ok, now I'm just pathetically desperate...

Oh well...

[fastblackmerc]

Frickin', Frackin', AHHHHHH!!!!!! :mad2:

I was told I had the part on Saturday and was called today to inform me that it had already been sold... Now it's too late!!! No more in stock... ANYWHERE!!! :mad2:

BruteForce must have gotten the one I thought I had!

Good luck guys, but I was told there are none left available in the country! If anyone has an extra one of these... ok, now I'm just pathetically desperate...

Oh well...

The one at Capital L/M in N.C. is spoken for..... Going to pick it up now...

[TechHeavy]

The one at Capital L/M in N.C. is spoken for..... Going to pick it up now...
Yeah, I know. Go ahead and rub it in! :bigcry: I have already called all remaining listed dealerships, (from the thread) and my own new updated list from a dealership today, (totalling about a dozen) and there appears to be no more available.

[Embassy]

Donny, thank you for taking the time to go out and get dirty to snap some pics.

Cruz, thank you as well.

The pics are a big help. :beer:

If any more Ford kits are found please let us know.

I wonder if you can purchase the kit directly from the maunfacturer (Quick-Lite)?

[CRUZTAKER]

Now it's too late!!! No more in stock... ANYWHERE!!! :mad2:


Hey man, I am home recooping and losing my mind watching Jerry Springer everyday for the next month or so....

I'll call around and see what I can drudge up. :up:

[Embassy]

If no other kits can be located, one could substitute the external lamps used on semis.

Then, some kind soul, who owns a Ford kit, could post the wiring instructions and parts lists.

The bracket should not be too difficult to duplicate.

[TechHeavy]

Hey man, I am home recooping and losing my mind watching Jerry Springer everyday for the next month or so....

I'll call around and see what I can drudge up. :up:
Thanks Barry. You're a pal. Hey, I suggest you watch Springer only every other day, that way you have a full day of reality before watching it again, (and time for braincells to recoop)! :D

Let me know if you find anything... I had a cool mod in store with this kit... :(

[CRUZTAKER]

I actually watch it with the sound off....while listening to old King Crimson LP's.:P

[TechHeavy]

I actually watch it with the sound off....while listening to old King Crimson LP's.:P
Yeah!! :banana:

[valleyman]

Can anyone tell us what cars this came on as a stock item or part of a package?

I think they would be junk yard abundant since they are hidden under the frame and not well known of.

Maybe I can make it to the yard before the snow gets too deep to crawl under a hundred fords. I imagine they wouldn't charge more than 10 bucks.

If I find more than one decent set up, I will offer then up to you folks.

When I bought mine I asked the parts guy what car(s) he thought these were installed on. I don't recall if he indicated they were stock or a dealer installed option but I do recall him saying "1999 and 2000 Town Cars."

[PolarBear]

I missed getting a set of these lights by an hour the other day. If anyone has an extra set that they are willing to part with for sale, please PM me. If not, chalk it up to poor timing on my part.

[Donny Carlson]

Back in January, 2004, I started the first thread on underbody security lights. The thread was a dud, too, only a couple of replies. I had found usl's on a Ford dealer's web site (forgot which one, and I didn't identify the dealer in the thread), and, at the time, they were in stock, available, and that particular Ford dealer would install them (parts and labor) for $162.50. My selling dealer didn't have them in stock, so I asked Ray (The Dealer) about them, what they would cost, install price, etc. Ray ordered in a set even before I actually gave him the order, though he did have to pay a higher price to another dealer because by that time they had been obsoleted in the parts system. It was that set provided by Ray and installed over at Team that caught Todd's attention.

Anywho, in that original post I put up a pic from the Ford web site that showed the usl's on a crown vic:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20 97

This is a bit misleading, because the light in the pic is not exacly diffused over as large an area in reality. Still, this was something you could get on 2003 models as a DIO on F-150's, Expeditions, CV's etc.

[Agent M79]

My set is on the way from North Hill Lincoln Mercury in Texas.

Funny... Ken told me that there was a sudden rush of calls for that same final remaining part not long after I spoke to him and he kindly held it for me until my check arrived.

Hmmmm... :coolman:

[update 12/02/04] ...and now I have them! :banana2:

[DirtyDog]

Here is a light kit that could work. The bottom one for $44.40. http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/subpages/warn_atv_lights.htm

Dave

[CRUZTAKER]

Out of luck folks....I called all of my secret resources and no body has one any longer.


Sorry, I tried.:o

[TechHeavy]

Out of luck folks....I called all of my secret resources and no body has one any longer.


Sorry, I tried.:o
Thanks Barry.

[DEFYANT]

I too looked into these, here is the response from my dealer today:

The part you have requested part#XW7Z.13707.AA has been discontinued and is no longer available. I put the part on our nationwide locator and no dealers show the part in their inventory either. Sorry for any inconvenience , we look forward to serving you in the future.

Bummer..

[TheDealer]

The company that made them, is Code Alarm, 950 e. Whitcomb Madison Hgts. Mi. 48071 214-583-9620.

[TechHeavy]

The company that made them, is Code Alarm, 950 e. Whitcomb Madison Hgts. Mi. 48071 214-583-9620.Thanks again for another great lead! You rock!

Update:
D'oh! That number above is out of service. I'll see if I can find another one for the company.

Update 2: The new location of Code Alarm Systems is in Troy, MI on Minnesota Dr. The number is 248-583-9621.

Update 3: Use the 800 # to order. It's 1-800-421-3209. It's automated, use option 2 to get a real person. :)

Update 4: Apparently some of the offices are still in Troy, but the person you'll get from the 800 # is in New York, (where the main office is). The salesman I spoke to said that he has never heard of this part and it is not one that they make. I explained the entire kit, but he was still drawing a blank. Sorry guys... I tried.

[TheDealer]

Figures, I got theat info right of Fords dealer web site. Figures it's outdated!!!! :help: :help: :help: :confused:

[DirtyDog]

Would one of you fortunate few who got a set of lights post a copy of the wiring diagram. I'd like to see where they are tapping into the power to switch on and off.

Thanks a lot,
Dave

[CRUZTAKER]

I'll do a PDF file tomorrow...it's really long though, like 10 pages.

This site doesn't support .pdf uploads, so I will have to email it to you.

[DirtyDog]

Thanks a lot, that'll be great.

Dave

[TechHeavy]

I'll do a PDF file tomorrow...it's really long though, like 10 pages.

This site doesn't support .pdf uploads, so I will have to email it to you.

EWWW EWWWW! (Horshack here!) I need that too Barry, please!

[martyo]

EWWW EWWWW! (Horshack here!) I need that too Barry, please!


Barry:

Do you want me to host it up on my site so folks can download it?

[valleyman]

Anybody who has installed (or watched somebody else install) the underbody lights, can you tell me is there already a hole in the frame rail to run the wire pigtail from the lights under the car up into the interior or do I have to drill my own hole? The instructions seem to indicate that there is a pre-existing hole around the front of the rocker panel but I didn't see it when I made a cursory inspection. So, before I really start crawling around under there looking for something I'd like to know if the thing I'm looking for even exists (kinda like hunting for Bigfoot). Otherwise I'll just drill away. Anybody know?

[shakes_26]

:help: Please post the destructions, I might be able to source some parts to make a copy of this kit. SO I'd really appreciate the install info.

thanks


Barry:

Do you want me to host it up on my site so folks can download it?

[DirtyDog]

What he said. I'm still waiting. I found a set of lights that will work. I'd like to hook them up professional looking.

Thanks alot,

Dave

[valleyman]

Oh man, my techno-ignorance has caught up with me. I don't have a scanner, I don't have a digital camera, I am unworthy! :(

But I do have the instructions. So, the best I can so is to snail mail them to someone (just send 'em back) who does have the capacity to post them on this site -- or Marty's-- for the benefit of others. Sorry guys and gals, but what do you expect -- I just got indoor plumbing.

[BruteForce]

Hold the phone... I'll fire up the scanner and get this made for ya'll. BRB. :revenge:

[hitchhiker]

I'll do a PDF file tomorrow...it's really long though, like 10 pages.

This site doesn't support .pdf uploads, so I will have to email it to you.

Will you please email me a set of these PDF's too?

Thanks,

David

:)

[BruteForce]

I have a copy of the manual scanned into a PDF file (zipped). I have posted it on one of my company sites but cannot promise it will stay up there forever. Get it while you can.

Vehicle Lighting Manual (http://staging.interweb-tech.com/vehicle_Lighting_Manual.zip)

[CRUZTAKER]

Good job Bruteforce....I have no idea what happened, but I lost track of this thread and failed to get that file up.:depress:

Thanks for picking up the slack. The file looks great!

[merc406]

If ya can't find any go out and get some neon tubes.

[DirtyDog]

Bruteforce, thanks a lot. I could not figure out how they were keeping the lights from coming on more than needed. Now I see it.

Thanks again, it came out great and fast.

[BruteForce]

Bruteforce, thanks a lot. I could not figure out how they were keeping the lights from coming on more than needed. Now I see it.

Thanks again, it came out great and fast.

You're welcome. While scanning this, it occurred to me this was probably that thing you couldn't remember you wanted to ask me during your last visit. ;)

[valleyman]

Anybody who has installed (or watched somebody else install) the underbody lights, can you tell me is there already a hole in the frame rail to run the wire pigtail from the lights under the car up into the interior or do I have to drill my own hole? The instructions seem to indicate that there is a pre-existing hole around the front of the rocker panel but I didn't see it when I made a cursory inspection. So, before I really start crawling around under there looking for something I'd like to know if the thing I'm looking for even exists (kinda like hunting for Bigfoot). Otherwise I'll just drill away. Anybody know?


Never mind. Answered my own question now that I've jacked it up and gotten under there with a light. There's not one but two holes (at least on the passenger side which is all I've looked at so far) already there with watertight soft rubber plugs installed from the factory. The holes are in the floor pan. When you pull the door sill up to peel back the carpet the hole is about even with the forwardmost guide hole that that door sill was sitting in. Hole's about as big as a quarter, easy to find. And double check that once you mount it that the bracket for the light isn't rubbing against the fuel line on the passenger side. I can see big-time disaster happening if the installer was sloppy.

[DirtyDog]

Of you lucky few who were able to get the lighting kit would you please take a look when you have time and get me the part numbers for the two relays?
I would really appreciate it. I'm making my own home made set and have not been able to find one for the ignition.

Thanks a lot, :beer:

[Agent M79]

I am not sure which numbers are important, but here is what is on the relays:

BOSCH
12V 20/30A
0 332 209 150


088141
P2


Hope that helps.

[SouLRioT]

FYI Shakes_26 is at the finishing stages of producing his kit for the club.

[DirtyDog]

Thanks alot, are they both the same?

Dave


I am not sure which numbers are important, but here is what is on the relays:

BOSCH
12V 20/30A
0 332 209 150


088141
P2


Hope that helps.

[Agent M79]

Thanks alot, are they both the same?
Yes they are.

[DirtyDog]

Thanks, off to the store.




Yes they are.