2003 Cobra S/C Question

[Marauder]

What would be involved to put a 2003 Bobra blower on a Marauder Motor and would it be worth it? I know it is not easy but is it reasonably possible? I might be able to get my hands on one.

[tmac1337]

The Procharger kit coming out soon uses parts from a 01 Cobra kit, but the P1SC is a Prochargers popular blower used for awhile now. What make of Blower are you referring to?

[stevengerard]

What would be involved to put a 2003 Bobra blower on a Marauder Motor and would it be worth it? I know it is not easy but is it reasonably possible? I might be able to get my hands on one.

uh oh, I see another reply from BillyGman coming soon.

[Eric91Z]

The '03/'04 Cobra blowers are a Trilogy style blower (Eaton), except they have the inlet on the opposite side as the Marauder.

[CRUZTAKER]

:dunno:

But my take on this is:
Had they fit in the first place, folks would have been buying them three years ago and Jerry B. wouldn't have sunk so much time in R&D on his kit.

[SergntMac]

It's been done. PHP's "Street Stalker has a complete '03 Cobra power train. Rather than cut up the OEM hood, Paul fabricated new motor mounts to lower the engine further into the bay and correct the driveline misalignment. I won't lie to you, there are a lot of details in such a project, details which are likely to make you nuts. Nonetheless, it is very possible, and could be the least expensive of S/C paths, depending on where you get your parts.

[cyclone03]

The Trilogy and stock Cobra have different length input "snouts".The blowers are not the same.
One of the issues Pauls had with the Cobra Motor transplant was the blower hitting the fire wall(I think) so they had to redo the engine mounts to move the engine forward.

[MikesMerc]

I'll just sit this one out....I promise
:popcorn:

[BillyGman]

:dunno:

But my take on this is:
Had they fit in the first place, folks would have been buying them three years ago and Jerry B. wouldn't have sunk so much time in R&D on his kit.
Barry has it correct.

[BillyGman]

uh oh, I see another reply from BillyGman coming soon. Yep, you know me well..........

here we go.......

Cobra blower= shorter blower snout, intake piece on wrong side, and lacking many things you'll need that will drive you, and the person attempting to install the thing for you NUTS. (including lack of the Kenne Belle "boost-A-Pump" fuel pump amplifier that the Trilogy kit has, the special alternator bracket needed for relocating the alternator that the Trilogy kit has, the special coolant resovior tank and mounting bracket for the intercooler that the Trilogy kit has,which is different than the Cobra one, etc, etc....)

..it's your car, but for your sake, please allow me to state that you really shouldn't overlook the importance of having a complete S/Cer kit that's been designed specifically for the car in question. The Cobra has a number of different things than a Marauder engine. More specifically, things that are mounted in different places than that of the Marauder. Such as accessories like the alternator, battery, and perhaps other things that I'm overlooking too.

[SergntMac]

Barry has it correct.
No he doesn't, and this is why.

it's your car, but for your sake, please allow me to state that you really shouldn't overlook the importance of having a complete S/Cer kit that's been designed specifically for the car in question. The Cobra has a number of different things than a Marauder engine. More specifically, things that are mounted in different places than that of the Marauder. Such as accessories like the alternator, battery, and perhaps other things that I'm overlooking too.
What you overlooked, is the original question. I cannot disagree that the trology kit comes complete with everything need to supercharge a Marauder with a roots style blower, but that's not what Marauder asked.

What would be involved to put a 2003 Bobra blower on a Marauder Motor and would it be worth it? I know it is not easy but is it reasonably possible? I might be able to get my hands on one.
"Will it work" is his question and the answer is yes. Yes, it can be done and it has been done, and with remarkable performance results to boot. While I agree that it will take some work, and there are details to attend too, and once you add up the costs of those details, buying a kit may make better "cents" of it all, but this too, is not what he asked.

If the the "Cobra motor and parts" are bought cheap enough, like maybe 1000 bucks, it could be done, and done cheaper than any kit anywhere, PITA as it may be for some details. However, if those parts add up to 5000 bucks, I'd suggest a kit too, but this still does not answer Marauder's question.

[martyo]

What would be involved to put a 2003 Bobra blower on a Marauder Motor .

Not to be a lawyer here, but re-read what Danny asked. He wants to know about the Bobra blower and you all are talking about the Cobra blower and entire motor swaps. These are two entirely different issues.

Read the question. Then re-read the question. Then, and only then start your rants. :blah:

Now if y'all don't mind, I am going back to read my flower thread which was derailed by /Steve who felt it necessary to tell Mary about his "Grande Organ".

[Marauder]

Not to be a lawyer here, but re-read what Danny asked. He wants to know about the Cobra blower and you all are talking about the Cobra blower and entire motor swaps. These are two entirely different issues.

Read the question. Then re-read the question. Then, and only then start your rants. :blah:

Now if y'all don't mind, I am going back to read my flower thread which was derailed by /Steve who felt it necessary to tell Mary about his "Grande Organ".

Yeah...I only needed the blower info...not the motor. Reason I asked becasue I can get my hands on the S/C pretty cheap.

Well, BillyG and Mac did somewhat answer my question.

I know others have much time and money in R&D for their kits but could it be that this part "NEW" is tooooo expensive from Ford?

[BillyGman]

No he doesn't, and this is why.

Yes, it can be done and it has been done, and with remarkable performance results to boot.
If the the "Cobra motor and parts" are bought cheap enough, like maybe 1000 bucks, it could be done, and done cheaper than any kit anywhere, PITA as it may be for some details. However, if those parts add up to 5000 bucks, I'd suggest a kit too, but this still does not answer Marauder's question.MAC, Ford doesn't even have all of the parts he would need to complete the installation. One being the alternator bracket which would have to be fabricated and custom made. The Cobra does NOT use the Allternator bracket that he would need since the alternators on the Cobras are in a different location than Marauders are. Futhermore, Ford does NOT make an intake piece that he would need either. The only one that sweeps to the driver's side like the one he needs must do, is the one on the Lightning, and that one is shaped rather differently than the one on the Supercharged Marauders are, and it looks to me much higher which would probably create hood clearence problems.

So you might want to mention who it is who has done what you're talking about, because I'd like to know how he did it w/out having some major hassles Like Effster indicated that he did when I wrote to him about the Kenne Belle Cobra blower installation that he performed to his Marauder. I don't see how you can list any final cost of making a kit yourself for the Marauder when all the parts needed aren't even available, and therefore some of them would have to be custom made.

[SergntMac]

Oh Billy...It's right ^ there. Go read from the top, please?

http://www.paulshp.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=13&password=&sort=1&cat=507&page=1

[duhtroll]

So does The Bobra blower fit or not?!!?!?!

;)

-A

Edit - Strange - I typed the above in all caps and it got rid of them for me, but capitalized every word. Logan, you been a tweakin' things?

[BillyGman]

Oh Billy...It's right ^ there. Go read from the top, please?

http://www.paulshp.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=13&password=&sort=1&cat=507&page=1MAC, the link you've provided lists info about a Marauder that's undergone a complete engine swap. Isn't that right? That car's Marauder engine was removed, and replaced with an entire Cobra engine, and NOT just the Cobra Supercharger, which is what the original question of this thread had to do with (just the Cobra S/Cer alone). Did it not? You previously implied that I had missed the point of the question of the first post, however you're speaking of an entirely different matter yourself here. The question was concerning a Cobra S/Cer installation on a Marauder engine. NOT the installation of an entire Cobra engine in a Marauder.

....."What we have here, is a failure to communicate" (I LUV that old movie!)

[SergntMac]

The question was "can it be done" and the answer is "yes."

End of story.

[BillyGman]

The question was "can it be done" and the answer is "yes."

End of story.Yes, Agreed........an easy, or inexpensive option? No way!!! Good luck. He's gonna need it.