What's this?

[SergntMac]

What's this...More junk? Or, is it a real upgrade.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7939301351&category=33577

[TripleTransAm]

To intelligent car owners:
This looks like a big capacitor-like unit that stores energy and refeeds it into the system in moments when the voltage is below a certain level. The end result is a smoother and more steady voltage across the car's electrical system, free of variance and ripples. We already have such a device located in the exact same place in the electrical path: It's called a battery, and it's MUCH bigger than this little gizmo. You can draw your own conclusions from this.

To the ricers:
Damn! This thing is awesome and GUARANTEED to deliver at LEAST 18 extra horsepower, more if it's after dark. And it looks killer, which is going to make you choice with the ho's. Definitely a must-have.

[Directedby]

TTo the ricers:
Damn! This thing is awesome and GUARANTEED to deliver at LEAST 18 extra horsepower, more if it's after dark. And it looks killer, which is going to make you choice with the ho's. Definitely a must-have.

Now that's some funny ****z.

[Bradley G]

I read some where this device combined with a Turbonator(tm) , your well on your way to being Banned from most tracks;)
Bradley G

[duhtroll]

Holy :censor:

I almost crapped myself laughing at this one.

One thing though, TTA. No one would be able to read that at the ricer forums. It is spelled correctly and uses punctuation and capitalization.

Now if you had said "dayum man thiz thing iz awsum and ya gets 18 ponyz or more at nite it luks bichin and the hos be all up in yo ****z"

THEN they might get it. Or maybe not. I don't translate "dumbass" very well.

Thanks,
-A


To intelligent car owners:
This looks like a big capacitor-like unit that stores energy and refeeds it into the system in moments when the voltage is below a certain level. The end result is a smoother and more steady voltage across the car's electrical system, free of variance and ripples. We already have such a device located in the exact same place in the electrical path: It's called a battery, and it's MUCH bigger than this little gizmo. You can draw your own conclusions from this.

To the ricers:
Damn! This thing is awesome and GUARANTEED to deliver at LEAST 18 extra horsepower, more if it's after dark. And it looks killer, which is going to make you choice with the ho's. Definitely a must-have.

[Dr Caleb]

I read some where this device combined with a Turbonator(tm) , your well on your way to being Banned from most tracks;)
Bradley G

Yea, because then you're considered to be more likely to crash while staging due to a sudden stall in the muscle between your ears :lol:

[cyclone03]

Holy :censor:

I almost crapped myself laughing at this one.

One thing though, TTA. No one would be able to read that at the ricer forums. It is spelled correctly and uses punctuation and capitalization.

Now if you had said "dayum man thiz thing iz awsum and ya gets 18 ponyz or more at nite it luks bichin and the hos be all up in yo ****z"

THEN they might get it. Or maybe not. I don't translate "dumbass" very well.

Thanks,
-A

:D :D :bandit:

[CRUZTAKER]

We already have such a device located in the exact same place in the electrical path: It's called a battery, and it's MUCH bigger than this little gizmo. and it looks killer, which is going to make you choice with the ho's. Definitely a must-have.
Actually, if indeed this gizmo as you call it IS a capacitor, it's NOTHING like a battery. and no, we do not have one.

Back in the day when I installed monster stereo systems, the 20" subwoofers would draw more current than the battery could supply on demand. Many folks installed second batteries. But the real trick was huge capacitors.

I can turn on all my accessories and sit with the brakes on and watch my voltage drop as more current is in demand. The car's battery obviously cannot maintain a voltage or current supply 100% of the time or this wouldn't happen.

A capacitor can hold this extra voltage for long periods of time, even once disconnected from it's source.

This gizmo may, or may not help, it depends on the size and amount of capicitors in it's circuit design. One thing I do know however, the ones we used in stereo applications were a hell of alot bigger, and four times the cost of this one. Well over $200 each.

That alone is the only issue I have with this item.

[TechHeavy]

And it looks killer, which is going to make you choice with the ho's.
Wait a minute! You mean if I... uh, and under the hood... and show it to the, ummm... I need one of these! I could use some ho ho hoes this Christmas! :banana:

[Bradley G]

:rofl: Please stop!I read it again and can't stop:wflag: :tmi: :lol: Bradley G

[TripleTransAm]

Now if you had said "dayum man thiz thing iz awsum and ya gets 18 ponyz or more at nite it luks bichin and the hos be all up in yo ****z"

THEN they might get it. Or maybe not. I don't translate "dumbass" very well.



I laughed heartily and deeply at this comment, especially the part about "translating 'dumbass' ". :up:

And then the laughter faded, as I realized that this is pretty much the way our youth is currently communicating. :depress: Will I be watching some important event on TV (or whatever form of holographic entertainment tool) sometime 30 years from now and hear:
"Shuttle Mars-lander STS-75, peeps wanna be hearin' the ****z on the blink-blink, yo"
(pause)
(BEEP - then in a muffled radio voice)
"Houston, word. Homies gonna put the m00vs on the rEd pLAneT, Yo"

(shudder)

Egads, I've become my father...

[Bluerauder]

I don't translate "dumbass" very well.

Thanks,
-A
I thought that you did rather well. :D

[TripleTransAm]

Actually, if indeed this gizmo as you call it IS a capacitor, it's NOTHING like a battery. and no, we do not have one.

I agree with your statement. But you addressed my point... that little gizmo is going to do nothing but smooth out any ripples in the supply line, IF it does anything at all. And the battery being present in the line does the exact same thing. I've even seen cases where running without the battery in the circuit (ie. only off the alternator) has caused some PCMs to freak (and in some cases get damaged).

In 2001 I was on my way to work after getting my '78 out of storage. I guess I had not properly secured the '+' terminal to the battery post because it worked loose on the 15 minute trip. As I parked in the dark garage at work, I noticed the tach was showing 1500-2000 RPM, so I cussed and b*tched about the binding choke linkage and goosed the throttle a bit to see if it would come off the high idle... only it didn't sound like high idle. ???

I turned on the headlights in order to get a better look at the tach with the dash lights on, and suddenly there was a smooth 750 RPM idle in park. ??

Lights off... 1500-2000 RPM. Lights on... 750-ish. ?? But the engine never changed actual engine speed!

Turned off the engine and went to restart: no power at all. The terminal was loose, and I'd been running solely off the alternator. The lights being on introduced a filter in line, same effect as having the battery across the line.

[duhtroll]

I have to think there is some advantage to this, albeit small. Otherwise why do I have to turn off everything electrical before my track runs in order to get that extra tenth?

No, really. I did not get my best time until someone told me to stop listening to the radio down the track. Every last bit of voltage must help, in which case this thing might actually be something to look at. IF it does actually store energy and supply it when needed, that is.

This reminds me of when my mom supercharged that pig in the school pig race.

You know, those battery-operated pigs at the novelty shops that grunt and walk around? They had a race with them - every classroom got one pig and were not instructed to modify the exterior of the pig in any way so as to make the nose longer (i.e. cross the finish line sooner).

Therefore, when my stepdad (who had taught shop for 37 years) took out the 2 C cell batteries and replaced them with three AAs they got an extra 1.5 volts, and it was legal. That pig flew down the track like a Marauder trashing ricers.

Sure, the batteries would have died after about 3 runs, but they only needed one.

And to this day no one knew how she did it. They didn't have a modded class, so I suppose it's their own fault.

-A

[CBT]

....and it remains sharp enough to slice this tomatoe!

[TripleTransAm]

There's a slight difference between your example and this item.

In your case, you 'supercharged' the pigs motor. It was the same as a power-adder on an internal combustion engine, where extra air and fuel are forced into the combustion chamber in some manner.

I'm not sure raising the voltage on a car's electrical system would be beneficial. In your example at the track, you reduced the load on the electrical system which is good. The alternator has to 'force' electrons through any electrical item that is in the circuit... this is where the concept of 'work' come from. Nothing is free, so any electrical device seen by the alternator is going to slow it down, and caused more drag on the engine via the pulleys (more with stock pulleys, less with underdrive pulleys, although in the latter case the alternator will just not be doing the same work at a given engine RPM, that's all).

For this gizmo to be beneficial during a race, the car's stock electrical system would have to be deficient in the first place. (sounds like a ricer to me. ;) ). During a race condition, the car's electrical system would have to be incapable of generating enough electrical feed to sustain a smooth and sufficient voltage, so such a gizmo would *help* by filling in the gaps. Again, as Barry mentioned, they'd have to be huge mofos to help throughout a 1/4 mile or any appreciable race length! In the case of a stereo, the power system takes a hit during a heavy moment of demand, such as during a powerful bass beat. The capacitor would dump whatever current necessary to offset the dip in line voltage to the amplifier. I don't see this little thingy we're discussing here being able to augment a deficient electrical system for any length of time.

And if it was big enough to help in some magical way, once you stopped racing you'd still need to charge it up. Imagine the humongous draw on the car's electrical system at THAT point!

I'm still-openminded to any theories supporting this device, though.

[teamrope]

I read some where this device combined with a Turbonator(tm) , your well on your way to being Banned from most tracks;)
Bradley G
Don't forget that BOV exhaust turbo thingy Marty found on ebay last year. :)

[Bradley G]

That explains the tuning issues he has had:D

Bradley G


Don't forget that BOV exhaust turbo thingy Marty found on ebay last year. :)

[Joe Walsh]

I think that it's a new SUPERCHARGER for the Toyota PRIUS!!!! :D

[teamrope]

At least something made me smile today. :)

[kode3]

I can turn on all my accessories and sit with the brakes on and watch my voltage drop as more current is in demand. The car's battery obviously cannot maintain a voltage or current supply 100% of the time or this wouldn't happen.
I agree with your post :) But an Optima Yellow Top would help.

[jfclancy]

I agree with your post :) But an Optima Yellow Top would help.

OK maybe I am a little confused, but it seems to me upgrading the alternator which actually As I understand it supplies power while running would be a bigger help. This device seems to function as a additional regulator which actually adjusts the voltage. So if it is a capacitor it would only work on unregulated alternator "juice" as once regulated it is DC. So it MAY be benifical to folks running under size pulleys with the stock alt.? or Not anywho? :beer: :beer: :beer: is not just for breakfast anmore
:beer: :beer: :beer: I suppose it would work as a current limiter and lull supplier to assist the battery as a Load while running sort of supplementing the work of the regulator?
or not

Joe Clancy