Diablosport Predator?

[Rider90]

Has anyone used the Diablosport predator for the Mercury Marauder?

http://diablosport.com/U7146.php

I used the Predator in my 6.0L Turbo Diesel Ford and I loved it, although for those who know about the diesels you understand I won't get anywhere near those gains from the programmer on the gas guzzler. I know they make a nice product, and now that I discovered it I am thinking about making the purchase I was just wondering if anyone has tried it on the MM?

[fastblackmerc]

Has anyone used the Diablosport predator for the Mercury Marauder?

http://diablosport.com/U7146.php

I used the Predator in my 6.0L Turbo Diesel Ford and I loved it, although for those who know about the diesels you understand I won't get anywhere near those gains from the programmer on the gas guzzler. I know they make a nice product, and now that I discovered it I am thinking about making the purchase I was just wondering if anyone has tried it on the MM?

Haven't heard much about the Predator. I think most folks on this site use either the SCT programmer, SCT flash programmer or a chip replacement.

[Rider90]

I'll be the test bunny I guess...

I ordered it about 20 minutes ago, I know it is a great product since...well...I already had it! I'll bump the thread after the test drive. Sounds like you can modify some nice parameters, I'm mainly concerned about shifting. I'm annoyed by hitting 4th gear @ 35mph :bs: Hope the power increase is nice...

[CRUZTAKER]

There is not alot of support from our tuners and vendors...if any...on the Diablo products any longer. Everyone has moved on to Superchips products.

Be aware, our vendors will not be able to send you the latest tuning software for that unit, and any changes you need to make in the future, you will be at the mercy of the Diablo tuners that haven't had near the experience of our tuners. If you attend member planned dyno tunes, your tune will likely not be able to be uploaded into your tuner as again I say, none of us support the software any longer.

I sold both of my Diablo products...ok....threw them away...as none of our tuners would work with them. Back in the day, this was the only product out there, and Jerry W, and the folks he trained, Dennis, Lidio, and others I assume, used to sell and support Diablo products. Now they have some 'limited' support of some of the second gen chips....but normally won't work with them in the field.

You may want to reconsider for the support reason alone.

[Rider90]

I'm confident, from past experience, that I made the right purchase. Thank you for your input, i'll probably post a new thread when I install it's software giving it a thumbs up or thumbs down - maybe both :dunno: I'm glad though that I'm not doing what everyone else is doing, even if it is proven, but this also has not been tested in the MM before (atleast from what I've heard) so I'll be the lab rat and keep ya guys informed :)

[Rider90]

I couldn't find much about the Predator...

http://www.mercurymarauder.org/cgi-bin/immc-chat.cgi?resource=General&private=&title=&sub_title=&sub_title2=&mode=read&index=4209


http://www.pdqperformance.com/pdqstore/news.phtml?nk=13

^^^ this one has to be B.S. right? Mercury wouldn't hold that much back

[SouLRioT]

I couldn't find much about the Predator...

http://www.mercurymarauder.org/cgi-bin/immc-chat.cgi?resource=General&private=&title=&sub_title=&sub_title2=&mode=read&index=4209


http://www.pdqperformance.com/pdqstore/news.phtml?nk=13

^^^ this one has to be B.S. right? Mercury wouldn't hold that much back


both those links are about the old chip. And you cant even see what the rwhp were on that dynograph

[Bradley G]

(^ this one has to be B.S. right? Mercury wouldn't hold that much back) quote:
Hey Rider90,
I can appreciate your brazen view toward "The road Less Traveled"however, their is some good advice given to you from a pletheura of knowledge and real world experience at work for you here.The tuners on board here won't give the false claims that some do.The good thing is that,given the pitfalls (Good W/Bad)It is entirely up to you.Sounds like you could've got a sweet deal from Cruzetaker on his Diablo junk:bs:
Bradley G

[SergntMac]

Oh boy...Another award winning dyno report.

[Rider90]

What am I getting flamed for trying something new? :dunno:

[CRUZTAKER]

Oh boy...Another award winning dyno report.
You got that right....

So what do we do now? Let it go, or keep trying to prove something?

First off, you'll never gain 60 rwhp from a chip nor a tuner alone. Even if the car was dyno tuned at the time, and the update was placed on the chip/tuner, the realistic gains are 23-28 rwhp.

I actually found one of my older DIABLO (BLACK) CHIPs out in the barn. It is programmed for BMD0 with 4:10 gears.

I WILL SEND IT TO ANYONE WHO WANTS IT FOR SHIPPING COSTS ONLY to prove my point.

[Rider90]

I wish someone would have chimed in earlier if their tuners are so horrible...they said it will be at my door Dec 21st, but I'll let you guys know if I think it is worth it or not...If it is so bad I'll put it on Ebay and save up for another one :depress:

I know 60hp is unrealistic, I even think 20-25 is too...

startin to miss my turbo diesel...

[Bradley G]

From what I read that product is not new. No one is flaming you, You made a decision to buy a product that is not endorsed by members here.The members here have hours of reasearch and trials of exprience.Don't get your feelings hurt because you assume everyone will support your decisions.You purchaced, then consulted :nono:

Bradley G


What am I getting flamed for trying something new? :dunno:

[Rider90]

Well I've owned the same product before and was very satisfied, I can still hardly wait for it to show up on my door-step...

[Bradley G]

I hope it comes for you soon! Happy holidays!

Bradley G


Well I've owned the same product before and was very satisfied, I can still hardly wait for it to show up on my door-step...

[SergntMac]

Well I've owned the same product before and was very satisfied, I can still hardly wait for it to show up on my door-step...And that's a good attiude to have about it too. The problem here, is that we haven't had much positive input about Diablo tuning. We found what work for us, but things change. Give it a try, and please keep us posted on your developments?

[Rider90]

Bradley,
Do you like those 4.10's? I'm considering them but I'm holding back because I do about 100 highway miles a week - what kind of RPMs are you spinning at 70? 80?

[Bradley G]

I don't know ,I never drive that slow!:banana2:
Bradley,
Do you like those 4.10's? I'm considering them but I'm holding back because I do about 100 highway miles a week - what kind of RPMs are you spinning at 70? 80?

[Rider90]

And that's a good attiude to have about it too. The problem here, is that we haven't had much positive input about Diablo tuning. We found what work for us, but things change. Give it a try, and please keep us posted on your developments?

I'll let you know, it can't be that bad if a lot of mustang people still use it. I only purchased it so quickly because I had a 04 F-250 6.0L Turbo Diesel with the Predator 100hp mode, gauges, muffler delete, and that thing was a monster. I was so satisfied with how the predator worked with the vehicle's computer and how smoothly everying went I just trust it because I know about it.

[Rider90]

I don't know ,I never drive that slow!:banana2:

any ideas? seriously...I want to atleast be able to squeal the tires, these tires are ginormous in comparison to others :help:

[Bradley G]

You will be able to roast the tires with a light pressure on the brake pedal.If you stab the pedal you may have to let off due to wheelslip.My 1-2 shifts have been nothing short of awsome.I even feel the car move sideways 1-2 with the trac control off.Get the Gears, you will be well on your way to being "assimilated":help: Bradley G

[03whitemach]

4.10's work great, just a couple hundred RPM diff. on the highway. I have a predator in my 03 Mach, the same one that would be used for the Marauder. The shifts are great, and you can set the shift points. But, I am still in OD before 40 MPH. Any upgrade tunes can be done over the internet, but you have to buy the parts to do so, from Radio shack. You can data log your car with it, and you can adjust the timing yourself. If the standard tune doesn't advance it enough you can add or subtract as needed. I like it. I had an SCT on my 01 gt. I would say they are equal except for some things, like disabling your traction control, which can be done with the diablo. I give it a thumbs up. Bone stock I ran 14.01 with the programmer I ran 13.68. Don't know about you, but I'll take that all day long for just a tune mod.

[Dennis Reinhart]

First of all no one is intentionally flaming you, this club has done very extensive research on all the products offered here by all of the Vendors here, NO CHIP/TUNNER will give a 60 HP gain, last year PDQ which is a distributor of Diablo posted totally wrong RWHP # for there chips for the Marauder I contacted Diablo and PDQ never changed there numbers.

The Predator is a sharp looking tuner, I will grant you that I sell SCT I sold this tuning on blank Diablo chips for years prior to SCT establishing its business at the first of this year, I know every one at Diablo I like them and respect them, I am sold on SCT, its the consumer that must do his home work and make the decision as to what product you buy, if you would have done a search here you would have seen probably less than 1% of the members here have used the predator or other products.


Does this mean that these products are no good, absolutely not, it means the members here have gone with another company and I would say 98% of the members here are happy with that tunning, Diablo has a refund policy so try the predator and if you unhappy, ask for a refund there are SCT dealers all across the USA if you do not want to buy from any of the vendors here you can call SCT they will refer you to any one of thousands of there dealers.

You can also go to other car sites and do a search of Predator and see how those customers like or dislike the product, one site is the Mach 1 site, its ironic I got a call from a Mach 1 owner today that had tried the Predator.

So again this is a great site and its very easy to misread type, I hope you enjoy the site and if I can help in any way please give me a call, or Liddio we both sell SCT will be glad to answer any of your questions, and feel free to post your numbers with your new tuner.
:beer:

[Rider90]

Dennis, believe me, I would have called you a long time ago but I would get my self into financial trouble. One of these days...

[Directedby]

Bradley,
Do you like those 4.10's? I'm considering them but I'm holding back because I do about 100 highway miles a week - what kind of RPMs are you spinning at 70? 80?

At 65 MPH, stock gears (3:55) = 1950 RPM.
At 65 MPH, 4:10 gears = 2250 RPM.

Barely notice any difference on freeway.

[Rider90]

Thank you :banana2:

[CRUZTAKER]

I wish someone would have chimed in earlier if their tuners are so horrible....Yeah man, but you ordered it 56 minutes after your initial post, and 8 minutes before the first reply......at 09:30 a.m. when most folks are on their way to work!

If you had actually waited, we would have hooked you up with the right advice.

Like others have said, please post your personal opinions on the product you are testing.

I could not be more satisfied with my Superchips product, and the well researched tuning parameters unique to the Marauder as well. :up: