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04MEMA

01-08-2005, 08:45 PM

Haggis

01-08-2005, 08:48 PM

Well are you going?

mpearce

01-08-2005, 08:51 PM

Heather and I are going to the Detroit Auto Show.

-Mat

Haggis

01-08-2005, 08:53 PM

Heather and I are going to the Detroit Auto Show.

-Mat

Post some pics from the show.

How have you been Mat and how is Heather? Give her our regards.

DEFYANT

01-08-2005, 08:55 PM

Charger shmarger

04MEMA

01-08-2005, 09:00 PM

Well are you going?

To the website or the Auto show?

If you're talking about the NAIAS:

That's like asking the Pope if he goes to church on Sunday! :cuke:

The website - probably. It should be interesting to see that car...

Jeff

04MEMA

01-08-2005, 09:04 PM

Charger shmarger

Party pooper... :D

The more hot cars there are, the merrier - as long as my car can toast 'em! :beatnik:

DEFYANT

01-08-2005, 09:09 PM

Yeah, Yeah. I almost bought the Magnum RT before the MM. I'm rootin for the new SVT Cobra. I hear it will be unveiled in NYs autoshow in march.

QWK SVT

01-08-2005, 09:38 PM

Here's an email I got from Dodge a couple days ago, I thought some of ya's might be interested...

Dear JEFF,

The all-new 2006 Dodge Charger combines aggressive styling with an available 5.7-liter HEMI® V8. This thrilling combination of muscle car power and bold design cranks out a hair-raising 340 horsepower to deliver the ultimate driving experience.

As our thanks for your enthusiastic interest in Dodge, we'd like you to be one of the first to see the Dodge Charger's spectacular unveiling at the North American International Auto Show.

See Charger's Highly Anticipated Reveal on January 10, 2005 at Dodge.com/autoshow

Dodge eMail Program Headquarters, PO Box 5075, Troy, MI 48007-5075

Jeff
The not so well kept secret... The Dodge Chargers equipped with Hemis (340 HP / 390 TQ) will reportedly go from 0-60 in 6.0 seconds.
:burn:

For the most part, it seems like Dodge has figured out the answer to performance... Throw the Hemi engine into every vehicle they produce. :rolleyes: Now, if only they could make something that looked good, I'd actually care:puke:

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/1.jpg

Why they made it a four-door is beyond me :confused: The Charger will always be an orange car, with the union jack up top, the doors welded shut and two redneck cousins inside.:D

mpearce

01-08-2005, 09:57 PM

Post some pics from the show.

How have you been Mat and how is Heather? Give her our regards.
All is well in Cleveland Gordon! I will do my best to post some pics of the Auto Show. My camera always shows up blurry on here no matter what I do. But, I'll try!

-Mat

Patrick

01-08-2005, 10:03 PM

I will wait on the pics!

04MEMA

01-08-2005, 10:34 PM

The not so well kept secret... The Dodge Chargers equipped with Hemis (340 HP / 390 TQ) will reportedly go from 0-60 in 6.0 seconds.
:burn:

For the most part, it seems like Dodge has figured out the answer to performance... Throw the Hemi engine into every vehicle they produce. :rolleyes: Now, if only they could make something that looked good, I'd actually care:puke:
Why they made it a four-door is beyond me :confused: The Charger will always be an orange car, with the union jack up top, the doors welded shut and two redneck cousins inside.:D

Jeeezzzz... What the heck did they smoke? That is butt ugly! :puke: The rear quarters might have worked but what is that front end? Apparently they thought grafting the front of a RAM truck on there might work? What the... Maybe they figured since it was going to go like stink it should look the part?

Thanks for the heads up...

Oh and I'm waiting for the Town and Country Hemi edition....

DEFYANT

01-08-2005, 10:55 PM

That looks like a photochopped Magnum.

Vortex

01-09-2005, 07:54 AM

I think it kinda looks like a 63 Rambler Classic. Maybe a Studebaker Lark. Man what a mess.:down:

QWK SVT

01-09-2005, 09:14 AM

That looks like a photochopped Magnum.
I don't think it fake. These pictures are from Autoweek's 2005 Autoshow special. Here's some more pics....

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_002.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_005.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_003.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_015.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_024.jpg

blackf0rk

01-09-2005, 09:26 AM

We should all know why this thing looks ugly...every car manufacturer has a certain style they like to keep all of their trucks/cars at, so when you look at one vehicle to the next you can say, "that must be a dodg," or "that must be a chevy."

Dodge just took the magnum slapped a few different body panels on it, and a different engine too, and you have one butt ugly car that everyone will know what manufacturer it's from. :)

MikesMerc

01-09-2005, 09:32 AM

The back half is not bad. The front end is totally FUGLY!

Typical though.

Mike Poore

01-09-2005, 09:39 AM

That's like asking the Pope if he goes to church on Sunday! :cuke:
Jeff
Actually, Jef, its the Church who goes to the Pope on Sunday, not the other way 'round.;)

Tallboy

01-09-2005, 09:45 AM

...with the union jack up top, :DThe Union Jack is the flag of the United Kingdom.:D

SouLRioT

01-09-2005, 12:57 PM

The back half is not bad. The front end is totally FUGLY!

Typical though.

I agree completely, that front grill has got to go. If it was changed i'm sure it would make it look better. I'm sure someone will paint one orange with the stars and bars on top and the "01" on the side.

duhtroll

01-09-2005, 01:34 PM

If it's only a 5.7L Hemi with 340 HP then it isn't even a different engine, just a lighter car with the same engine, and that's a maybe on if it's lighter or not.

Makes me wonder why the heck they even bothered. The 300C is the same damn car, and we all know how disappointing they have been performance-wise. Just ask the owners.

-A

FastMerc

01-09-2005, 03:23 PM

Oh come on that will get more looks than the GTO but one problem it might just make you a little:puke: after you see it eeeeewwwwhhhho!!!

Bradley G

01-09-2005, 03:33 PM

I like it!Not as much as a Marauder.But it is better looking than the wagon!I know I'm the only one so far but others may have liked it too but are not willing to say so:hotrice: I know it's not a ricer, or even close for that matter.Because our competitors are so few and far between, I have welcomed any entries into our segment.If no one does, then their will be no guys to beat up on!:cool4:

Bradley G

Smokie

01-09-2005, 04:01 PM

It's a cross between the Magnum and the 300c

Blue03

01-09-2005, 07:12 PM

Boy that doesn't look anything like the New Charger that I remember being shown in Autoweek a few years back. That one looked real good! On this one the 4 doors and Audi/Passat rear qtrs look real thrown together. The concept I remember did sorta like the new Mustangs vs the older Mustang styling linkage but cool modern. Does anyone else remember it that way or has CRS struck again?

04MEMA

01-09-2005, 07:42 PM

Krytin

01-09-2005, 07:50 PM

I knew that I once saw a nice looking Charger concept... Found these pics online.

Jeff
Those are the pics I saw in todays paper - they made it sound like this was what was going into production! Then again, in another article they annouced the new technology for '05 was auto dimming headlights!

Blue03

01-09-2005, 07:51 PM

I knew that I once saw a nice looking Charger concept... Found these pics online.

Jeff

Yeah that's more along the line I remember... It's looks alot better to me...
Why would anyone want to do it in a 4 door???
Thanks Jeff

Joe Walsh

01-09-2005, 08:10 PM

It's a cross between the Magnum and the 300c

BINGO!!!
Why even bother....?
Now if they had come out with something close to the concept car.... :banana:

merc406

01-09-2005, 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=QWK SVT]I don't think it fake. These pictures are from Autoweek's 2005 Autoshow special. Here's some more pics....

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_002.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_005.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_003.jpg

OMG :confused: , magic shrooms, white stuff :rasta: Or maybe all 3, what happened? Someone, call the cops!

Blue03

01-09-2005, 08:27 PM

hitchhiker

01-09-2005, 09:02 PM

I knew that I once saw a nice looking Charger concept... Found these pics online.
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Jeff
Absolutely agree.

The concept would have been nice.

What a shame.

:(

QWK SVT

01-09-2005, 09:23 PM

The Union Jack is the flag of the United Kingdom.:D
:bop: I knew it was the Confederate Flag, but my typing fingers did not :lol:

QWK SVT

01-09-2005, 09:37 PM

Here's a little more on this.http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0404phr_dodge/
I guess I understand why (bean counters won again) but... I sure liked the 1999 version better...I'm real glad I didn't wait for one like the 99 version that will never happen...still all smiles about my MM :) :) :)
Here is a pic of the 99 concept and the old Chargers... The new Charger could be a Hemi Dud... You know... the wheels on the 99 concept look a lot like MM wheels...
Apparently, Dodge is taking some heat (rightfully so), for the 4-door:

Autoweek had this to say (http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101327)
The Chrysler group's revival of the Charger name on a Dodge sedan is generating "hate mail," says a senior executive. Production of the 2006 model starts in January, but correspondence is voluminous opposing the name on a four-door, says Trevor Creed, Chrysler senior vice president of design. The naysayers, writing primarily via e-mail, champion various Charger coupes that ran from 1966 through 1978 and from 1982 through 1987, Creed says. "They all think their Charger is the real thing."

Now THIS is a Dodge that I would drive. Too bad all the ones they put on the road lack the class, or hi-po look of the prototypes... :rolleyes:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53 40

TripleTransAm

01-09-2005, 09:52 PM

Sounds like similar arguments as what was seen in the old-vs-new GTO battles. Will be interesting to see how it pans out.

Drives03Maraude

01-10-2005, 12:07 AM

WHY GOD... WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!
A 2 door? that woulda been hot, and maybe somthin a little less...ram 1500'ish front end. What the hell were they thinking????

-Dennis Stiles

Bradley G

01-10-2005, 04:48 AM

Why would anyone want to do it in a 4 door???[quote] When I was a younger lad, we did not have many other options!;)
Bradley G

GA-Marauder

01-10-2005, 06:44 AM

Why would anyone want to do it in a 4 door???[quote] When I was a younger lad, we did not have many other options!;)
Bradley G
Actually, if I remember correctly, the 1999 concept was a 4 door. If you look closely at the pics, you can see the rear doors. The idea was to make a 4 door that looked like a 2 door. Must have worked!:D I agree, though. The concept looks so much better than the reality, Ram 4 door Sedan.

danbike

01-10-2005, 07:04 AM

On Married with Children, Al Bundy was talking about his Dodge on one show and Peggy replied Nothing says failure like driving a Dodge!

Guess that sums it all up. :beer:

SouLRioT

01-10-2005, 07:35 AM

Well, its up on the site now, and its like the first one. The best thing on the page is the Viper coupe. They've got a Magnum SRT-8 on it too. :(

Bradley G

01-10-2005, 07:41 AM

Though I do like that show, I am trying to set myself to a little higher standard!BTW that episode was really funny!

Bradley G
Chrysler did do a nice job hiding the rear doors ,I had to look again to see them!

On Married with Children, Al Bundy was talking about his Dodge on one show and Peggy replied Nothing says failure like driving a Dodge!

Guess that sums it all up. :beer:

metroplex

01-10-2005, 06:02 PM

The autoshow sucks unless you want to see style over substance.

Vortex

01-10-2005, 06:11 PM

They would have been better off putting the hemi in a RWD Intrepid, at least it was nice to look at. This thing is one of the ugliest new cars I have ever seen.

Stew

01-12-2005, 12:15 AM

I like it. Should start arould 29k for a Hemi R/T. I would definatly pimp it if I could afford one!!!!!!

jerrym3

01-12-2005, 06:45 AM

Whether you like it, hate it, or have mixed emotions, give them (and General Motors) credit for doing something instead of offering a less costly version of a Volvo with poor performance, the 500 and Montego.

Looks a little Maxima-ish from the rear.

The actual "car in the metal" will tell if it has too much Ram Truck in the grille.

Silver_04

01-12-2005, 05:31 PM

That is one ugly car. But with a V8 and RWD...I can't criticize it too much.

Bluerauder

01-12-2005, 07:49 PM

I don't think it fake. These pictures are from Autoweek's 2005 Autoshow special. Here's some more pics....

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_002.jpg
I heard today that NASCAR Dodge racers will be switching over from the Intrepid body style to the new Charger body this year. Understand that some driver's are already testing it in prep for Daytona in February. Anyone out there who can independently confirm this?? :dunno:

QWK SVT

01-12-2005, 09:17 PM

I heard today that NASCAR Dodge racers will be switching over from the Intrepid body style to the new Charger body this year. Understand that some driver's are already testing it in prep for Daytona in February. Anyone out there who can independently confirm this?? :dunno:
Dodge says that the Charger will be running...

January 10, 2005, 12:28 PM[/i]]
DETROIT (AP) -- NASCAR great Richard Petty had a bit of advice Monday for Chrysler president and chief executive Dieter Zetsche as he helped the company unveil the revival of its historic Dodge Charger nameplate.

"If you want to be a part of the Dodge legend, you have to look the part," Petty told Zetsche and NASCAR rookie of the year Kasey Kahne, who will drive the NASCAR version of the car in Nextel Cup competition.

Zetsche and Kahne then joined Petty in donning cowboy hats and sunglasses, a Petty trademark.

Kahne drove a NACAR version of the Charger on stage at the North American International Auto Show. During the unveiling, its wheels were switched with street tires and its body removed to reveal the production car.

The company announced last year that the Charger would replace the Intrepid in NASCAR in 2005. Thirty-seven of Petty's all-time record 200 victories and three of his seven championships came in Chargers.

Looking to feed Americans' appetites for heightened horsepower, Chrysler harkened back to the muscle car days of the 1960s as inspiration for the sporty sedan. The rear-wheel-drive Dodge Charger is scheduled to go on sale this summer.

The Charger is part of a product offensive at the U.S.-based division of DaimlerChrysler AG that includes 25 new or redesigned cars and trucks by the end of 2006. It also will be the latest in a number of new high-performance vehicles that cater to drivers who crave high horsepower. Pricing hasn't been announced, but estimates range from $25,000 to about $30,000.
http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/news/headlines/cup/01/11/dodge.charger/charger_xl.jpg
(still looks ugly to me)

marauder307

01-13-2005, 12:07 PM

Dodge says that the Charger will be running...

"If you want to be a part of the Dodge legend, you have to look the part," Petty told Zetsche and NASCAR rookie of the year Kasey Kahne, who will drive the NASCAR version of the car in Nextel Cup competition."

I agree. Dodge is committing an unforgivable sacriledge, to put out a Charger that looks like that. The 4.7L-CNG twin-turbo concept put out a few years back paid infinitely better homage to the original, and the 4-dr design change would have been allowable---if they'd actually used the concept's lines. But this...fouled-up ABORTION...of an automobile,...this is tragic.

Those dimwits at Dodge oughta be beaten with a set of their own Hemi connecting rods... :mad2:

If ya haven't guessed...I really loved the old Chargers...

Hack Goby

01-13-2005, 04:20 PM

http://home.comcast.net/~hack_goby/mat712drmodel-500.jpg
I don't think it fake. These pictures are from Autoweek's 2005 Autoshow special. Here's some more pics....

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_002.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_005.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_003.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_015.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/dodge/charger/images/D2006_024.jpg The roofline says it all

04MEMA

01-13-2005, 06:07 PM

The old 300M from last year you know? That's what the Chargers trunk looks like for sure. I thought it when I first saw those pics, then saw one on the road today. I wonder if it's the same part! Way too lame for a charger although the 300M was a decent looking ride, for what it was. The most amazing thing to me is that it appears that DCX is forgetting (to some degree)the valuable lesson that Chrysler/Dodge learned back in the 90's. If people like your concept car, then for God's sake, make the production vehicle as close as humanly possible in appearance to the concept. Simple rule. Don't make concepts impossible to manufacture.

Pontiac blew it on the Aztek BIG time. The concept was car-based and actually looked okay for what it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be a vehicle that had the benefits of a SUV with the performance of a sports sedan plus new functionality. The concept looked kinda cool. People liked what they saw at the autoshow and so Pontiac built something else? They built a minivan based, underpowered, cost saved exterior turdmobile. Then they were scratching their heads when nobody liked it? DUH!

Jeff

P.S. I apologize for posting such filth on the site!

Joe Walsh

01-13-2005, 07:46 PM

Dodge says that the Charger will be running...

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/news/headlines/cup/01/11/dodge.charger/charger_xl.jpg
(still looks ugly to me)

WOW! I'm suprised that NASCAR allows Dodge to 'lay back' the grille and "headlights" that much in order to make that brick aerodynamic.

Ladyhawke

01-13-2005, 08:06 PM

I agree. Dodge is committing an unforgivable sacriledge, to put out a Charger that looks like that. The 4.7L-CNG twin-turbo concept put out a few years back paid infinitely better homage to the original, and the 4-dr design change would have been allowable---if they'd actually used the concept's lines. But this...fouled-up ABORTION...of an automobile,...this is tragic.

Those dimwits at Dodge oughta be beaten with a set of their own Hemi connecting rods... :mad2:

If ya haven't guessed...I really loved the old Chargers...

Now you all understand how I feel about the new gto...:puke:

Bluerauder

01-13-2005, 08:13 PM

WOW! I'm suprised that NASCAR allows Dodge to 'lay back' the grille and "headlights" that much in order to make that brick aerodynamic.
They are gonna have to close off a major portion of that gaping mouth as well to run competitively at Daytona and Talledega. :D

Silver_04

01-14-2005, 08:25 PM

WOW! I'm suprised that NASCAR allows Dodge to 'lay back' the grille and "headlights" that much in order to make that brick aerodynamic.

Considering it's now NASROC with the common templates I'm actually more suprised the grille is that vertical.

merc406

01-15-2005, 08:50 AM

Dodge says that the Charger will be running...

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/news/headlines/cup/01/11/dodge.charger/charger_xl.jpg
(still looks ugly to me)

This ugly motha should be runnin with the trucks. :puke:

PJR

01-15-2005, 09:31 AM

I like some aspects of it. I am not a fan of the rear end. From that straight shot it looks like a big Neon with exhaust tips. Anybody else see that?

Joe Walsh

01-16-2005, 08:48 AM

http://home.comcast.net/~hack_goby/mat712drmodel-500.jpg The roofline says it all

"Hey....It's a MATADOR!"

GA-Marauder

01-16-2005, 11:32 PM

Apparently, Dodge is taking some heat (rightfully so), for the 4-door:

Autoweek had this to say (http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101327)
The Chrysler group's revival of the Charger name on a Dodge sedan is generating "hate mail," says a senior executive. Production of the 2006 model starts in January, but correspondence is voluminous opposing the name on a four-door, says Trevor Creed, Chrysler senior vice president of design. The naysayers, writing primarily via e-mail, champion various Charger coupes that ran from 1966 through 1978 and from 1982 through 1987, Creed says. "They all think their Charger is the real thing."

Now THIS is a Dodge that I would drive. Too bad all the ones they put on the road lack the class, or hi-po look of the prototypes... :rolleyes:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53 40You know, they were soooo close...This would have been one bada$$ car if they could have redone the front (ala the 2005 Mustang, a little retro with 1969 DNA), and with the Hemi, I for one would have been severely tempted. The car they are showing now, however, is one ugly POS. It might beat me at the stoplight (a big maybe), but it can never look into a mirror without deep psychological consequences (sooo ugly:alone: ). I get so many compliments on my MM, almost a daily event. It makes me smile.:D :D :D