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DEFYANT
01-13-2005, 03:20 PM
Here is yet another positive review of the gear / tune mod. Last month I purchesed the SCT9100 tuner and gears (among other things) from Silver 04. I finally got them installed by Rick at Amazon Racing. All I can say is "WOW". The service was excellent, the car was done in a reasonable time, and I cant stop driving the MM!!

Rick is working on an updated tune as we speak and should be ready tomarrow. :D
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Rider90
01-13-2005, 03:37 PM
Congrats! I'm saving up for the 4:10s :burnout:

BADMERC
01-13-2005, 03:39 PM
Right on. Drop the Converter in next, and you will really love it. I have not had my machine out for two months now (SNOW). Good Luck.

MarauderMark
01-13-2005, 06:24 PM
Right on. Drop the Converter in next, and you will really love it. I have not had my machine out for two months now (SNOW). Good Luck.


Good to hear about your upgrade.you've got the performance bug and you wont be able to stop.lol.but the t/c is a good call for next mod ..i'll bet in no time it will be s/ced..WTG!!!! :banana: :banana:

DEFYANT
01-13-2005, 07:02 PM
Thanks guys, just more Mod Logic (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15009&highlight=mod+logic).

ADE 1000
01-14-2005, 06:44 AM
Question: Can you now lay a patch from a dead punch???

If so, this will be my next mod.

GA-Marauder
01-14-2005, 07:34 AM
[QUOTE=Defyant]Here is yet another positive review of the gear / tune mod. Last month I purchesed the SCT9100 tuner and gears (among other things) from Silver 04. I finally got them installed by Rick at Amazon Racing. All I can say is "WOW". The service was excellent, the car was done in a reasonable time, and I cant stop driving the MM!!

Can't agree more! These changes make the MM driving experience absolutely addicting! Congrats! :D

DEFYANT
01-14-2005, 09:29 AM
Question: Can you now lay a patch from a dead punch???

If so, this will be my next mod.
From a stop to WOT, yes the wheels will spin. I did not hit the brakes as I was not intending to do a burnout. I am totally confident that when the urge to "lay a patch" strikes, I shall have no difficulty doing so:D :burnout:

ADE 1000
01-14-2005, 10:26 AM
From a stop to WOT, yes the wheels will spin. I did not hit the brakes as I was not intending to do a burnout. I am totally confident that when the urge to "lay a patch" strikes, I shall have no difficulty doing so:D :burnout:

Glad to hear it. Time to start shopping for a gear installer. :burnout:

Bobby Clobber
01-14-2005, 12:12 PM
As someone who has had the Stage 1* installed for almost a year, I can tell you that you can count on D.R.'s own words to me which were" You'll be looking for dry pavement after this mod "

She'll spin 'em from a punch and bark them again from the one-two shift.

*This is the tuner, gears, plugs and stat.

TripleTransAm
01-14-2005, 12:18 PM
Bobby, how's your tune holding up in the colder weather? How low a temperature have you seen with this tune?

Bobby Clobber
01-14-2005, 12:25 PM
I don't drive the MM much in the winter, only if there is no snow/salt. Today it's about 8-10 and I have her out for a run. No problems so far in the cold , takes a little longer to warm up but no performance issues that I can see or feel.

I've run her in =15 -20 and starts good ,runs normal after a little warm up. Biggest thing is all the suspension creaking and groaning and even tire thump till you go a few miles. :beer:

TripleTransAm
01-14-2005, 01:00 PM
Uh oh. You shouldn't have mentioned suspension creaking and groaning. That's actually something that my MM has NOT yet displayed, all the way down to -30 C.

But, in keeping with its tradition of accumulating EVERY known MM fault, I will now have to expect this noise within the proceeding 2 months, because you mentioned it online (and I'll be damned if my MM doesn't have some sort of link to the Internet so it can read this stuff behind my back). :mad:

Define "runs normal after a little warmup"... right now, on the coldest days, I'll fire it up remotely and let her run while I finish up inside and put my boots / coat on. So, maybe 5 minutes idling, and I throw the family into the car and pull out. Even then, it's a 5 minute amble through my neighborhood (50 km/hr, plus stop signs) until I reach the highway, and then it's about 1 minute of highway driving before I start to get appreciable heat in the cabin.

As far as operation goes, though, I feel confident that I can jump right in the car mere seconds after a startup at -20 C and pull out without any stumble (although it does take a little longer for it to 'plop' into gear when initially going from Reverse to Drive in that cold a morning, even after 5 minutes of warmup time). Would I lose this with a dyno-tune of your magnitude?

Bobby Clobber
01-14-2005, 01:15 PM
Steve,

When I said runs normal, it runs fine from start. I just wait till the temp guage starts to move before I press hard on the go pedal. Seems to me I read something here about cold and aluminum that doesn't mix and that keeps the go pedal quiet.

The other thing I do is use the block heater faithfully to try and get a little jump on the weather. Even if it's only a difference of a few seconds less before I get decent lube to all that is O/H it's something.

The creaks and groans are usually after a long sit and in very cold weather i.e. -20 or more.

The wait to get cabin temp up is about the same as you mention so maybe it's not as bad as I think. It just seems to me I'm closer to work before I'm getting heat than I was last winter.

Overall I don't think I've lost anything with the mods , but I agree with everyone else , " this is how the car should have come from STAP." :beer:

Bradley G
01-14-2005, 01:16 PM
Heres to your new found power!:2thumbs: :toast: :beer: The lowest temp(s) since I got my tune (sct handheld)was at 0* no stumble at all!It runs like a big block cold!
Bradley G

TripleTransAm
01-14-2005, 02:25 PM
When I said runs normal, it runs fine from start. I just wait till the temp guage starts to move before I press hard on the go pedal. Seems to me I read something here about cold and aluminum that doesn't mix and that keeps the go pedal quiet.


Agreed. Until I see the needle move to begin with, I don't even let the engine rev above 2000 RPM, which is not easy to do with a heavy car being pushed by such a loose torque converter, and the TCC being locked out due to not having reached sufficient operating temperature. After 5 minutes as I approach the highway, the needle usually has shown a sign of life but still not a heavy heat being generated in the cabin. At this point, I have no choice but to let her zing to 2400-2500 in 3rd (TCC is operating at this point) before allowing an upshift to 4th, to permit a safe merge into brisk morning traffic. At that point, it's a straight shot up to 75 mph or so for about 20-25 minutes until I hit stop/go traffic at the next highway merge (I get good solid heat about 1 minute after that shot up to 75 mph, and the needle's pretty much at operating temp within 2 minutes).

I wonder how the lower thermostat would affect me. It's 7 am when I hit the initial highway... I don't want to be stuck having to drive around for 15 minutes waiting for an appropriate temperature to blast up to 75 mph.

As for the block heater... I totally forgot about that. Can't say I recall having seen it... where would it be tucked away? Could it have been optional? Forgotten? I'll check downstairs in the parking garage before leaving. But, yeah - that would be a good idea on a really cold morning, as I have a switched outlet out by my garage, with the switch upstairs in my walk-in entrance closet. When my wife comes down to start breakfast, I could ask her to flick the switch for me. :beer:

TripleTransAm
01-14-2005, 02:28 PM
One thing that interests me... we've heard reports of improved mileage and some of decreased mileage. Most have said 'decreased', but I'm wondering if there is a change in the RPM range which is the most efficient. Right now, I get the feeling my optimum highway cruising RPM is just a tad under 2000, if not right AT 2000. Has anyone noticed this and noticed a change (in which direction?) when going with the 4.10s?

Bobby Clobber
01-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Just got home, what a week, makes one wonder.

Anyway, block heater is on passengers side , likely tied close to the firewall, I've had one in my last three cars (CV's) and they are the ****z.

Makes a difference you'll see.

After gears , mine runs 75 mph @ 2500, with the most beautiful exhaust note you could want. Mileage might be down a mile or two but it's comfortable and mellow. I think someone said we see about a 200 rpm difference at highway speed in O/D? That 'd be about right,

DEFYANT
01-14-2005, 04:29 PM
Let me start with ---->:D .

Rick installed the new tune and let me say, AWSOME! No more bog at WOT. In addition to the new tune, he increased the shift points presure a little,"fixed" the overdrive, removed the speed limiter and data logged the thing on the test drive.

I had him set the OD to not come on until the car reaches 50mph. Throttle response is right on. I left the traction control operable since my wife may drive the car. If I want it off I'll hit the button.

I dont know why I waited as long as I did to get this car.

I have not had the gears long enough to know what the mileage is. I do know I've sucked down 1/4 tank since these mod though :D . The true test will be during my next trip to NY.

TripleTransAm
01-14-2005, 04:39 PM
Yeah, the block heater on my '85 Parisienne saved me on that winter of '93-'94, where overnight temps reached -40 C for about a month and half. Not great when you're having to make do with a starter (home-rebuilt) of 1975-vintage and a not-so-strong battery...

I've done the math and to keep my 2000 RPM cruising speed, I'd have to drop my road speed to 65 mph. So I'm wondering if I could maintain (or improve?) my mileage at that speed (65 mph) which with 3.55s would have me in the mid 1700s and around 2000 with 4.10s.

I go through an entire fuel tank in under 4 days, so mileage is a big concern for me. So is cruising speed, as a lot of it is highway.

I appreciate all the info thus far...

jstevens
01-14-2005, 07:25 PM
Steve, I'll tell ya, I suck a lot of fuel too but think its worth it for the gears and chip.

I commute 64 miles round trip daily. I usually drive 75mph because I don't like the rpm's getting too high.

Jan 31 is one year and I've got 22,000 miles. My next mod is the K & N, that should increase the fun level.

But I hear what you're saying about fuel as I fill up about every 4 days too.