McGard Wheel Locks

[martyo]

I spoke with the folks at McGard this morning. They confirm that the Part No. for MM wheel locks (assuming stock wheels) is 24130. Price is $30.00 (which includes shipping by FedEx Ground Service). I alos found them at PepBoys (www.pepboyscom.

Sometimes pepboys or the otrher online retailers will offer free shipping.

Hope this helps.

P.S.

I just received the following from McGard Customer Service:

Dear Martin,

As long as you are using the original equipment wheels, you
would be able to
order part number F2LY-1A043-A directly through your local
Mercury dealer.
You may also obtain part number 24130 through an aftermarket
retail
location. All of our products, if not in stock, may be ordered
through all
participating Sears Automotive Stores, Firestone and Goodyear
locations.
You may also order directly through Summit Racing at
1-800-230-3030.

Thank you,

Marc Courtney
Customer Service Technician
McGard Inc.

[Kelly]

Got mine at the Summit web site, fit fine and were shipped right away.

[Macon Marauder]

Got mine from the local Pep Boys. Little less than $25 if I remember. Then $10 for a spare "key." Not bad, I think.

[RF Overlord]

stan:

That Ford part # looks like the one I used at my local dealer...I'll verify tonight when I get home...the dealer had them in stock...$40, IIRC...

[martyo]

A spare key, now why didn't I think of that?? OK, back on the phone with McGard.....

[03 Merc]

Don't forget to give your key number to your local dealer as well. They can enter it in OASIS and then get a key from their master set (McGard is OEM) when doing work that way... saves a hassle if you forgot to give them the key...

[martyo]

'03: Thanks, great idea.

Who's smarter than the guys on this site?????

BON and the others ain't got mothin' on this site!

[MAD-3R]

Damn Skippy!!

[mdmarauder]

You guys are great. Went to Pep Boys Sunday with the part # for the MCGuard locks. Put them on and they fit great. Thanks for the info.

[LincMercLover]

Hmm... but what do they look like?

[CRUZTAKER]

I hope they look better than missing wheels.........
Now where are my keys?

[drobin]

Guys, try the McGard #24194 which is a hair shorter and recessed enough to make it impossible to grab a hold of. Looks great and gives me more confidence that their not coming off without key.... Also, its not recommended to apply any type of lubricant on wheel studs since it aids in easier removal by thieves....

Donald

[CRUZTAKER]

Ordered from Summit (29.00 tot.) at 1:30 EST today, and they will be here tomorrow.
Turns out Out Summit is 2.6 miles from the the house I grew up in....I think I remember that.....?

[jgc61sr2002]

I also have the McGard locks which I had purchased from ford. I removed them from my 2000 GM when I sold it. I thought they were between $25 of $30. As stated before It's not a bad idea to order an extra KEY for $10. John:)

[CRUZTAKER]

Second key.... Yeah. The guy at Summit was confused when I asked for a second key. I guess I'll wat till they come, get the number, and call McGard for a replacement.

[martyo]

I took John's advice yesterday when I ordered directly from McGard. They have the spare keys. They cost $10.00 a piece. They were shipping FedEx ground (slow delivery, but I have my car, so I can wait).

The idea of giving the key number to the dealer for entry into OASIS is also a great idea. Can spare that troublesome moment when the car has been left at the dealer and the dealer does not have access to your copy of the key.....

[Pantherman]

I highly recommend wheel locks. As a matter of fact, they have been on my to do list for the last couple of weeks. Unfortunately, my wife informed me this morning that my Marauder was sitting in the driveway on blocks. I think there is maybe a message here. Even if you live in a very low crime area, DON'T PROCRASTINATE. Thieves haven't figured out yet that there are very limited applications for our wheels, but those big shiney things catch everybodies eye. Final note--my dealer quoted (insurance) $3157 for a complete replacement package, with locks.

[martyo]

I received the locks from McGard 3 days after I ordered them, extra key and all. They look good and I plan on installing them this weekend (as I stare outside at the snow - God I hate the snow). Pantherman is right--everyone (thieves included) look at those wheels with envy! For less than $30.00 this is a "better safe than sorry" thing to do.

[mdmarauder]

Pantherman, sorry to hear that.

I just put the locks on mine last weekend. I have always worried about my wheels. $3100.00!!! Damn.

[jpatricktaylor]

When I got serious about buying my MM, I test drove one of the 6 that my dealer had on the lot, and then when I called him the next day to confirm the deal, he told me that someone snuck onto the lot overnight and stolen the wheels off the car I tested. I chose another one of the 6 to purchase, and the dealer gave me a set of wheel locks! Only thing I had to do was order a spare key from McGard.

[WolfeBros]

My dealer had wheels stolen off two cars on his lot. I bought and installed the locks the day after delivery. Sorry yours got stolen. :(

[03 Merc]

My dealer had one left on the ground, no blocks, as well.... Hopefully when car show season starts the jerk will be dumb enough to show up at one that I or my son attends ... I'll just pass that tag number on to right folks for follow up...

[DougKing77]

I contacted Gorilla lug nuts to see about ordering a set of their stainless steel acorn locking nuts but they could not help me locate the correct style for a Marauder! :help:
If anyone can post the correct thread size and lug nut length I would appreciate it. I would like to obtain some locking nuts that look as close to stock as possible.

[DougKing77]

I went the McGuard site and they show the sizes for the locks stanleyk posted. They are 1/2-20 thread size, 13/16 OEM hex size. Don't know what the OEM size is about but the 1/2-20 is what I need. I will post info on the Gorilla lug nuts once I determine what they are as well. Here is a picture of the McGard.

[james_hart6]

Originally posted by Pantherman
I highly recommend wheel locks. As a matter of fact, they have been on my to do list for the last couple of weeks. Unfortunately, my wife informed me this morning that my Marauder was sitting in the driveway on blocks...

Yeow! Sorry to hear about that!:(

I've taken your advice and ordered my locks today...

Thanks for the heads up.

Jim

[jgc61sr2002]

Pantherman - Sorry about your loss, hope the didn't do any other damage. Although my car is in a garage I installed the wheel locks as soon as I brought the MM home. John:(

[bugsys03]

my mcgards came today UPS from pep boys-$22.71

[Slowpoke]

i bought the locks as well. then i ordered an extra 'key' in case I lose the one that came with them. I keep that one in my home-office lateral file with all the other car stuff.

i am a nut for privacy and personal security - i also took a piece of black construction paper and cut a small rectangular piece to cover up the VIN number showing through the windshield.

i change my state tags every coupla years. and i dont't register the car to my home address - i use the business address instead. Also, i don't even use my name on the vehicle registration, just my initials... the dealer thought i was nuts. i never use personalized plates.

and i dont valet park the car when going out for dinner, etc. eventually i will but not until i get the chip with a special program that dumbs down the performance when engaged [so the valet parkers cant accellerate fast or go over 35 mph].

[martyo]

Hey 'poke, since I sent you that check for the pads and pends, I did notice a leak in my bank account.....Hmmmmmmm! I was wondering why you wanted my social security number too! Just kidding!

BTW: I used the pads all day yesterday. The used pages curl up real nice in the cup holders until the end of the day/run.

[bugsys03]

slowpoke you are one paranoid dude!!!!!!!!!

[Slowpoke]

paranoid....no

careful.....yes

[CRUZTAKER]

Originally posted by Pantherman
I Final note--my dealer quoted (insurance) $3157 for a complete replacement package, with locks.

I realize the insurance will pick up the tab, but if anyone is interested, I can get new wheels, the same ones, for about $325 each give or take alittle.
I have a friend with a wheel shop, and there is not alot of demand around here. No one is buying MM's, better yet, if they did, no one is using those wheels in the snow and salt. 16's are the best way out during this season.

Who mentioned OASIS? I know about it....but my dealer was clueless as to how to enter my wheel lock number.

Someone help me.....I AM SURRONDED BY IDIOTS

[joflewbyu2]

get the gorilla tripple plated chrome spline drive locking lug nuts. the ones that every lug is a lock. i posted the info before. 30% lighter, stronger and less chance of stripping the locks since they are spline drive that allow more leverage than side key.

[DougKing77]

Could you please post part numbers and include a picture? I called Gorilla today and they were clueless about what lug nut would fit a Marauder. They did not even know what one was! I wanted to perhaps get an acorn style stainless lug nut that Gorilla makes but don't know the part number(s)

Thanks

[FordNut]

Just a thought, I guess an afterthought since I've already got mine: do they weigh the same as the regular lug nuts? For balancing issues it could cause or contribute to vibration if there is much difference.

[vaderv]

Hey Slowpoke, coverin your vin number is like tellin ur mom u didnt do it.. A real big waste of time since everyone and their grandma has it and any moron can get it.

[vaderv]

want proof?

[Fourth Horseman]

Picked up a set of the McGard locks tonight and will put them on tomorrow. Just don't want to take a chance. Thanks to all for the part numbers and advice in this thread!

[SergntMac]

Just a little friendly advice for all...

It varies from state to state, but generally speaking, concealing a VIN could stir a confrontation with the aggressive and less privacy tolerant LEO. The LEO has a right to view the VIN without disturbing a motorist. He also has a right to disturb a motorist when he cannot see the VIN. In some cases, a concealed VIN is a felony. In some cases, it's probable cause for seizure of the car, and the LEO can tow the car for a confidential VIN verifications and then "hold for owner." You pay the tab. This VIN stuff is the LEOs turf, and rightfully so, in order for him to protect our property. So, do what you gotta do, but be careful.

The purpose behind posting the VIN on the dash, was to allow LEOs to identify vehicle status and ownership with as little intrusion as possible into the privacy of the owner. Hide that, and you may be detained longer than you need to be detained in any casual street stop, until the VIN is revealed and confirmed. You'll probably stir some other "probable cause" thoughts and find yourself standing on the side of the road while the LEO searches for the confidential VINs located elsewhere on the vehicle. Give him the probable cause to do that, and everything he sees in his search, is in his plain view. Now, I don't think this is an issue for most of us here, but, why put yourself through that to begin with? Please check your local laws, because also generally speaking, this rule of thumb applies to license plates too, with all those smoked and louvered "anti-radar" license plate covers that are so fun to buy, and so hard to explain.

Any lawyer can tell you, there are dozens of rights and protections afforded us as citizens travling a public highway. However, there are also dozens of responsibilities we must carry out to maintain our protection, and when we fail to do so, the LEO has his responsibilities he must carry out. It's a chain of probable cause events and a nightmare, why put a kink in the chain?

[RF Overlord]

Sarge:

Thanks for the above...I believe most of us at MM.net respect the work LEOs are charged with and wouldn't deliberately interfere, but most of us probably aren't even AWARE of some of these things, not having a lot of direct contact with a LEO (other than the occasional speeding ticket, which I'm proud to say I haven't received since 1982 :D). In my case, I've worked with police details hundreds of times, and I am a tiny bit more familiar with the goings-on just from general conversations with the detail officer(s).

Sure, we all have a little bit of the kid in us, or we wouldn't have bought this car, but most of us are old enough to know better, so let's not make any more (unproductive) work for the Sarges of the world, eh?

;)

[james_hart6]

Ordered the McGaurd locks yesterday before noon from Summit Racing, they were here this a.m. before 10. Total was $27.90, including handling, shipping was marked as "no charge". No problems on install, but the "re-usable" package they furnish to keep the original 4 lugnuts in won't hold the Marauder lugnuts. McGaurds seem somewhat lighter than original lugnuts - haven't had it on the highway to see if it interferes with wheel balance. Might require on car balancing...but service was top notch.

Jim

[jgc61sr2002]

Jim Had McGard locks on my GM and now on my MM and there is no problem with balance. Poke as for covering the VIN it is illegal in NY,as well as covering the license plates with glass, plastic or any other material. John

[SergntMac]

Originally posted by RF Overlord
Sarge:

Sure, we all have a little bit of the kid in us, or we wouldn't have bought this car, but most of us are old enough to know better, so let's not make any more (unproductive) work for the Sarges of the world, eh?;)

Thanks, RF, but this isn't a problem for me. I'd much rather throw my .02c in here with some background, than hear a sad story another time. The "game" of safety on the streets has two teams, as long as the teams try to work together, no fouls. If I can pitch in on this team, I'm working safer on the other...if it's okay with y'all.

[CRUZTAKER]

Today I had my wife weigh the MacGuard wheel lock 24130 and a stock MM lug nut on her certified USPS scale and we found that the OEM lug weighs 2.0 oz. and the 24130 wheel lock weighs 2.5 oz.

I once had a sports car that I could never clear up the steering wheel shimmy, It had one wheel lock (not MacGuards), coincedence?

I don't know, I havn't put mine on yet because I have never had the stock wheel on the car for more than day 1. No one wants to steal my snow tires, besides, around my neck of the woods, all the kids that see me coming point and say 5-0,5-0......

[FordNut]

CRUZTAKER:
Thanks for the weight check. I wonder if the shorter ones, part #24194, might be a better choice? Maybe I'll get a set of those and put the 24130s on the LS.

[SergntMac]

Originally posted by CRUZTAKER
Today I had my wife weigh the MacGuard wheel lock 24130 and a stock MM lug nut on her certified USPS scale and we found that the OEM lug weighs 2.0 oz. and the 24130 wheel lock weighs 2.5 oz. I once had a sports car that I could never clear up the steering wheel shimmy, It had one wheel lock (not MacGuards), coincedence? I don't know, I havn't put mine on yet because I have never had the stock wheel on the car for more than day 1. No one wants to steal my snow tires, besides, around my neck of the woods, all the kids that see me coming point and say 5-0,5-0......

Now here's a guy who thinks with his brain on...Thanks for the hip, Cruz, that .50oz is something to consider.

[CRUZTAKER]

Oh yea, I got another idea that I hope NEVER comes in handy.

I am gonna take my little electric metal engraver and put a little something special hidden on the inside of my rims....

[merc406]

Locks like these are easily defeated with a slightly smaller in size 12 point socket, hammer it on, take it off. Have a couple in my toolbox left over from my bodyshop day's.

[jgc61sr2002]

Merc - Almost anything can be defeated. Hopfully they will be a deterrent and the alleged thief will go elseware. There is a good chance that by the noise of the hammering will alert the owner. PS MY MM is protected by GLOCK. John

[merc406]

John, this is true, if they want them that bad they will bring a tow truck. The lock will deter kids.

[CRUZTAKER]

What's that banging sound........?

[Bigdogjim]

My Granddaddy use to say "lock keep honest people honest but, they don't stop a crook"
Big Dog

[james_hart6]

Originally posted by jgc61sr2002
Jim Had McGard locks on my GM and now on my MM and there is no problem with balance. Poke as for covering the VIN it is illegal in NY,as well as covering the license plates with glass, plastic or any other material. John

Thanks, John.

Jim

[DHULK]

Here I sit just a few miles from the factory and I haven`t got off my fat a$$ to get them . Looks like that goes on the top of my too do list.

[Fourth Horseman]

Originally posted by jgc61sr2002
*snip* PS MY MM is protected by GLOCK. John

Ah, a fellow Glock guy after my own heart! :cool:

[Pantherman]

I'm very picky about wheel balance, but a 0.5 ounce overweight lock at the bolt circle is only equivalent to about a 0.125 ounce balance weight at the wheel rim ((4.5 in./18 in.) x 0.5 0z. = 0.125 oz.).

[WolfeBros]

^^^ What he said^^^^ :up:

[CRUZTAKER]

Originally posted by Pantherman
.....is only equivalent to about a 0.125 ounce balance weight at the wheel rim ((4.5 in./18 in.) x 0.5 0z. = 0.125 oz.).

Thank-you, I am horrible with physics, math and formulas.
I figured that since it was near the center it wouldn' t make a BIG difference....but how much? Thats why some people aquire further education, and some people just take it all in.

Now, 0.125 oz. = how many grams? I should know this...:rasta:

KIDDING!

[RF Overlord]

Originally posted by CRUZTAKER
Now, 0.125 oz. = how many grams? I should know this...:rasta:

About an 8-ball's worth...heh

J/K... :eek:

[gonzo50]

I dont know if this offsets any weight differences, but I installed my Mcgard wheel lock opposite of the valve stem hoping to keep it even with the weight difference. Probably wont notice anything anyway, just a thought.

[jgc61sr2002]

Gonzo - It doesn't make a difference where you put the lock because the wheel is balanced with the valve in place. The McGard is also sold by ford in FMC package with a ford part #. As I stated before had them on my 2000 GM and now on my MM and never felt any vibrations. If there was a problem with balance the Ford engineers would know. Yea right. John :)