Kenne Bell Supercharger Kit

[looking97233]

I talked with the folks At Kenne Bell today.
They said about six months. In our conversation, we spoke about power. He said with the engine speed limited to 5800rpm (so the lower end dosen't eat itself), 13lbs. of boost on pump gas, 600 crank hp. and big torque down low. He also says he needs to sell 50 kits. Save your pennies.

[SaxGuy]

How about a group purchase for discounts on Marauder parts such as the supercharger? With this many members, this actually might be a conceivable idea.:banana2:

[looking97233]

Okay, I'll keep track.

If you want a Kenne Bell Supercharger e-mail me at rodneyc38@attbi.com and I'll keep track of who wants one. When the kit is available, I'll contact everybody and set it up. Be aware other kits from Kenne Bell run $4-5k. So, if you don't want to or can't spend the money, please do not put yourself on the list.

I don't know how much or even if they will offer a discount for a group purchase, they are too busy to make the kit for the Marauder for about six months, so when the kit is available, I will find out how many will purchase it, then go to Kenne Bell with that. Cuz' going and saying I want to buy 30 kits, here's my money, works best. The key part is having the money in hand to bargin with.

[schuvwj]

I thought Reinhart was going to come out with a complete Supercharger package?

[SaxGuy]

I'm really glad that there are going to be some options out there for aftermarket speed equipment. The problem with a supercharger is that it will most definitely void the warranty. I wish Mercury would have after-market options available that could be installed by your dealer and all fall into the warranty protection plan. I think if (Ford) Mercury would start doing this, sales would definitely climb up. Why not offer an SVT option for the Mercury products. Another issue is for the people who are using this car as a daily driver, and I fall into that category. Perhaps a turbo is a more appropriate device since it’s not constantly running, but I'm not sure about that. Best bang for the buck price is Nitrous, which I had in my TransAm. The wonderful thing about it is that it’s cheap, and gives the same amount of boost that a supercharger would but without hurting gas mileage all the time. I'm sure the Marauder could handle NOS as long as it wasn't being used every mile on the road and preferably not at all on streets (save it for the track)!!! I just think when you lay down so much money on a car; you should take advantage of the warranty without it being blown. I paid a big price when I modded my TA within 2 weeks of ownership, and then had some warranty issues that would not be honored because of said aftermarket products. I guess my little speech doesn’t apply to the wealthy who can afford there own repairs (I wish I was one of them) But if I was one of them, I would have my 2003 cobra sitting in the garage next to my Marauder.

[Vince Gortner]

I talked to Dennis today when I ordered my chip & gear combo (to go!) and asked about superchargers, NOS (he said forget it), suspension stuff, etc. It sounds like the big problem is that to date nobody has left him a car to use as a test mule. He said he's getting a car from CA shortly and as soon as he gets that car set up with the full works he'll be able to market all the products.

Somebody's gotta go first, and until then we're stuck waiting. I can imagine that he's in a big hurry himself, but I suppose it wouldn't be fair to ask him to go buy a $30k car to use as an engineering mule and still expect him to turn a profit.

It would be a cool mule though...

Kenne Bell's stuff is great, but Dennis seems like he's on the MM team all the way and I'd just as soon wait for his kit.

[looking97233]

Okay, the centrificals from Vortech, Paxton and many others, are great at making power at 5000rpm. But a big, heavy car needs more. A positive displacement pump, unlike a centrifical, moves x ammount of air each rev. Don't get me wrong Kenny Browns package is great at making power, but the Vortech needs to spin fast to build boost, you just can't get the same torque down low from a centrifical as you can a pump. There are two basic kinds, The improvied roots and the Autorotor. The Autorotor is more efficient. Do the reasearch, you'll agree with me. Start here www.kennebell.net read the Tech articles that have been posted, not written by kenne bell, but from major magazines. As for Dennis, he is doing good things, but he is also working with a Paxton or vortech unit. Hope I haven't pissed anybody off.

[TAF]

Nothing at all against Kenne Bell, fine group and fine reputation. But any money I spend will be with Dennis. And the main reasons are:

1) Dennis is not just "throwing things together" to sell here
2) He's actually in it as a true enthusiast (and expert IMHO)

and c...

He is waiting to get his hands on a MM (I know, I could have in November but chickened out on the opportunity to leave mine with him for a couple/few weeks) where he will perfect whatever could be possible improvements and THEN offer them to the group here.

I've met the man, spoke with him several times and he's been here since the beginning. Those of us who have delt with him know the story, those that haven't...should.

[looking97233]

At least go look.

www.kennebell.net

They don't just "throw things together"
They have been doing forced induction since I was in grade school.

[JerseyVics]

Originally posted by looking97233
Okay, the centrificals from Vortech, Paxton and many others, are great at making power at 5000rpm. But a big, heavy car needs more. A positive displacement pump, unlike a centrifical, moves x ammount of air each rev. Don't get me wrong Kenny Browns package is great at making power, but the Vortech needs to spin fast to build boost, you just can't get the same torque down low from a centrifical as you can a pump.

I too am getting a supercharger for my 2v future Panther and wanted to go the roots type way because I agree that we need low end torque more than anything in these cars. However the only maker of the kit for us out there AED, still hasn't replied about my offer to buy their kit over some broken down payment method.... If I get the advertising deal with Kenny Brown going on my site I should be able to just pay AED for the kit right out, I don't wanna take the pluge though just yet without some supplemental income.

Roots type or Screw type with Kenne Bell, is definitely a competent alternative to the Centrifigural blowers currently used by Kenny Brown, Dennis and Mark Ray!

--Russ:coolman:

[TAF]

looking,

Please don't get me wrong...I did not mean that Kenne Bell was "throwing things together". And, I hope that I was clear in regards to my respect for what they do.

I'm just saying that Dennis has several "converts" here and he could have come up with lots of things to sell to a lot of people here. Instead, he is taking time to get his hands on an actual vehicle where he'll custom make and fit items that some of us may find useful to improve the performance of our Marauders. He could have offered up Mustang based items that he is very familiar with, but he wants to work with the actual machine instead of "rigging" up something that may work on a 4.6L engine.

I apologize if I wasn't clear the first time. It just counts a great deal in my book on already proven items from him that I currently have on my car, he was here when I got here in July and I look forward to more great things from him.

That's all.

[looking97233]

Todd, I understand what you're saying. All I am saying is that when I talked to the people at Kenne Bell today, the reason they will not have a kit for the Marauder for six months is cuz' thier shop is full. He said "I just don't have room for a Marauder to play with right now." True they will start with the kit for the 01' Mustang Cobra, but there are changes that need to be made. The computer is completely different, and there are siginifant differences in the mototr too. So, like Dennis, the folks from Kenne Bell will do it right too. This has been proven time and time again by them over decades.

What I am saying is Kenne Bell is at par or better quality with/then anybody else out there. The twin screw supercharger is 30% more efficient than an improved roots type, and not even in the same ball park with a centrifical. And they don't "rig" things together either.

Oh, and for the 04' SVT Lightning, Ford will be using a twin-screw instead of the roots. Why cuz' it's better.

This will be my last post on this thread. If you want one and want to try for a group discount, e-mail me. My address is at the top of this thread.

[SergntMac]

I am with Todd, 100%

Looking, I do appreciate hearing opposing views on the technology, thanks. What you suggest is food for thought, and I think it's in our best interests to understand all of the supercharger technology before we decide.

[BODYMAN]

Do they (kennebelle) really think that this motor will hold together w/ 13lbs of boost!!! I have had countless people tell me once you get over 10lbs youre asking for something to happen. Also 600hp at the crank how do they know this have they set one up already???? 600hp sounds like waiting for a problem with the stock tranny. JUST A THOUGHT.


:) :flamer: :flamer: :) :)

[SaxGuy]

Heres my .02 :) I think that no matter who you go for with your aftermarket supercharger, everyone should be happy that their is more than one option. I think the Kenne Bell supercharger is great, and I think that KB & DR equipment is also great! But what I think is the best part of all is the choice!!! If you look at both superchargers, they both lead up to this...:burnout:

[mensrea]

Well all I can say is "I have mine"~~~~~~

[BODYMAN]

mensrea,I wont be to far behind you. If this darn weather would cooperate as I dont plan to bring it to Dave at KB until after the snow this weekend hits. per dave they are calling for ice and snow in Indy this weekend. even though I will be bringing up in a enclosed trailer.

[mensrea]

Ya teal, I know it... that's why I gotta get my licks in now.... I got mine he he he he he (8 others out there soon)

[BODYMAN]

I dont blame you!!!!! but what everyone will remeber is the 1st one so you have got a leg up on us all. All I can ask for is to be the 1st one in St Louis surronding area. BUT YOU ARE STILL THE KING


:) :) :) :) :)

[SSMOKEM]

While all you guys are waiting and deciding on what kind of supercharger, the Nitrous guys will be tearing up the tracks.....Hehehehehehe :D :D

Can you tell I LOVE the juice? ;)

[mensrea]

Well there you have it teal... you can be the first nitrous/supercharged marauder :)