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Kramer
03-07-2005, 01:04 PM
Does anyone know of any shop in the MD area that has the equipment to fill tires with Nitrogen?

BillyGman
03-07-2005, 01:13 PM
Does anyone know of any shop in the MD area that has the equipment to fill tires with Nitrogen?I cannot help you, but until someone else chimes in who might be able to, I have a question about that......and my intention is not to challenge you neccessarily, but do you think that there's a realistic advantage to be had for street driving by using Nitrogen in your tires? I mean, I would think that the advantage would only be while taking your tires to their limit of adheasion around corners on a track. No?

torinodan
03-07-2005, 01:21 PM
I cannot help you, but until someone else chimes in who might be able to, I have a question about that......and my intention is not to challenge you neccessarily, but do you think that there's a realistic advantage to be had for street driving by using Nitrogen in your tires? I mean, I would think that the advantage would only be while taking your tires to their limit of adheasion around corners on a track. No?We use nitrogen in our ground handleing wheels for our helos. The only two reasons I could see right off for nitrogen is: 1. No moisture that would affect wheel ballance. Nitrogen is a dry air. 2 No moisture again and this would stop any corrosion from forming inside of your wheels. Basicly the most important reason to use nitrogen is the the lack of any water in it. Anyone got anything else to add? I guess it also holds better under heat and pressure, that could be why it's also used in all of our fixed wing aircraft too.

Joe Walsh
03-07-2005, 04:02 PM
Also, Nitrogen will not degrade/oxidize the tire's rubber compounds...although this would be a long term benefit.
Most of us seem to go through tires like we go through cheap socks!!

Bluerauder
03-07-2005, 04:22 PM
Also, Nitrogen will not degrade/oxidize the tire's rubber compounds...although this would be a long term benefit.
So what's the point of preserving the inside of the tire ... when the outside is exposed to the elements ?? :dunno: The major benefit of nitrogen is that it is less expansive under heat, therefore better able to regulate critical tire pressures during professional races. The benefit to regular folks is nil. :rolleyes:

BillyGman
03-07-2005, 06:13 PM
The major benefit of nitrogen is that it is less expansive under heat, therefore better able to regulate critical tire pressures during professional races. The benefit to regular folks is nil. :rolleyes:Yes, that's what my understanding of the matter has lead me to conclude also.

jgc61sr2002
03-07-2005, 08:00 PM
If you have a COSTCO ( formly Price Club ) in your area that is all they use when installing tires.

MENINBLK
03-07-2005, 08:17 PM
When I went to school, I was taught that our atmosphere is 70% Nitrogen.
So the equipment you need to fill your tires with Nitrogen is...
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/phd/PHD143/OS10025.jpg

BillyGman
03-07-2005, 09:35 PM
now this is really getting scientific...:D

B.C. Bake
03-07-2005, 09:37 PM
Just what jgc61sr2002 said COSTCO.....

Donny Carlson
03-07-2005, 10:45 PM
Yes, that's what my understanding of the matter has lead me to conclude also.
Billy, I ran nitrogen in my last set of tires. I may get my new set filled with it next time I go over to Butler Tire.

I have a tire pressure/temperature monitoring system in my MM, and when I ran with nitrogen in the tires, they did not heat up as much as with regular air, and temperature rises were much slower than with regular air. While it's true that nitrogen is drier than regular air, and is inert, I agree that we don't keep our tires long enough for it to matter. But keeping the tires cooler is a good thing, and worth the nominal cost for nitrogren, imo.

BillyGman
03-08-2005, 07:26 AM
Billy, I ran nitrogen in my last set of tires. I may get my new set filled with it next time I go over to Butler Tire.

I have a tire pressure/temperature monitoring system in my MM, and when I ran with nitrogen in the tires, they did not heat up as much as with regular air, and temperature rises were much slower than with regular air. While it's true that nitrogen is drier than regular air, and is inert, I agree that we don't keep our tires long enough for it to matter. But keeping the tires cooler is a good thing, and worth the nominal cost for nitrogren, imo.Hmmmm, I find this^ rather interesting info......but if the temperature change is all that significant, then what about using nitrogen at the drag strip? Would it be more difficult to heat up the tires for a burnout with drag radials?

Kramer
03-08-2005, 01:48 PM
I was under the impression that the use of Nitrogen limits the pressure loss in the tire due to temperature changes.

I heard Pat Goss talking about it a few months ago. His recommendation was to do it if the cost was low ($5 a tire)

Joe Walsh
03-08-2005, 02:20 PM
I'd like to try Helium...It would help lighten my Marauder! ;) :D :D

BillyGman
03-08-2005, 02:34 PM
I'd like to try Helium...It would help lighten my Marauder! ;) :D :DHow about Liquid Nitrogen.......it will keep em real cold !

Kramer
03-08-2005, 06:38 PM
This link I found has some info:

http://www.nitralife.com/NitrogenArticle1.pdf#search='u sing%20nitrogen%20in%20tires'

maraudernkc
03-09-2005, 03:03 PM
One of the properties of Nitrogen in you tires is that when the tempature changes your presure will remain the same with Nitorgen. That's what I have been told.


Yes, that's what my understanding of the matter has lead me to conclude also.