Prob with Brakes

[Patrick]

When I left work tonight I was for a small suprise. First I parked on hill, so I set the parking brake. Habbit. But when I was backing up some was pulling in the lot so I pushed on the the brake. It felt musshy (lack of a better word). I pulled out from the lot and did a short drive to a convinice store and the brakes seem to tight up then loosen up :confused: I left and when home car stopped fine but just didnt feel right. Anyone else have this happen or just me:alone:

I will let the rauder sit till I do some more checking. And testing later this week. On the down side Got to slum it in a 2001 Town Car, Catier, Loaded! Thanks MOM!!!!!:D :D

Thanks Patrick

[LincMercLover]

All the newer Panther platform cars have a weird ABS system to them. They've compromised for old people not being able to put the pedal to the floor in an emergancy situation (I kid you not!), so if you apply a quick gab to teh pedal, it'll feel really tight. Otherwise, the pedal feels somewhat loose, but normal.

Is this maybe what you're experiencing? Notice any ABS/Brake light coming on?

[jefferson-mo]

Patrick, I don't see a location under your name.......frozen maybe???

[RCSignals]

lol It's not for old people LML.

[Patrick]

Maybe I hit the brakes a bit to hard when I backed, when I saw the car. Maybe that caused it? Ilike the Idea for people that could use this feature , Just had me concerned. . And no lights or anthing or anything coming on. Maybe just me. MM just going thru hear growing pains! I will Still MOM on her for the drive Town Car. Damm WHAT A RIDE! Thanks for your help with Icons Again!!!

[Patrick]

hey Jefferson, I will check my settings. I am in Cleveland TN.

[CRUZTAKER]

Originally posted by LincMercLover
.......They've compromised for old people not being able to put the pedal to the floor in an emergancy situation......


"From the mouths of babes.........." :lol:

[03 Merc]

Patrick,

I had a similar problem the day I picked up my MM...

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=142&highlight=Parking+Brake

You might want to check it...

[jgc61sr2002]

LML - Watch that old people stuff. You need :help: . John

[LincMercLover]

Guys, I am NOT kidding. It was on Car and Driver or something of the sort when they reviewed the new 2003 Town Car, and THAT was their explination for it... I'm not TRYING to bash old people...

[WolfeBros]

As soon as I finish my prune juice I am gonna box your ears you young whippersnapper. :D

[vaderv]

What Linc is saying is that the brakes system has an emergency or panic boost. If you panic stop the brake pedal is "boosted" i. e. it gets hard fast. Normal brkes are typical Ford 4 wheel disc for the panther platform this imo is mushy and real unlinear. The way most older people prefer them. They really should have gave the MM a more firm and linear brake pedal feel.

[sandman]

Well I see it's not just me... .thought about adressing the dealer on this issue but I see it seems to be a common thing[mushy brakes] I would probably be wasting breath. A slight pump on the brakes does raise the pedal on mine. Luckily I haven't had to panic stop yet.......we'll see.

[RCSignals]

Originally posted by LincMercLover
Guys, I am NOT kidding. It was on Car and Driver or something of the sort when they reviewed the new 2003 Town Car, and THAT was their explination for it... I'm not TRYING to bash old people...


And you fell for it LOL

If it was a feature on a MB or BMW they would have said it was a "great safety feature, providing extra boost in extreme braking conditions" ;)

[Patrick]

Well things got interesting. First is been raining down here in the south. So story gets good. When I left for work, It started like this put on the brake and have a sticky feal to it. Then it started to fade. about a half a mile to work. I would tape the brake it stay there then let back up. A split second later. Left work at 1 am because of very little traffic. Put on the hazzards and took one very long drive home!!!!!! I also noticed that a soon as I touched the brake with little pressure It acted like I gave it more, then the other mess. Could the be a prob with the foot brake pedal switch??? Anyway I am haveing her towed to the dealership in the morning! Oh and to make it worse!!!!!!!!! Mom needs Town Car so stuck driving a Chevy S-10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry chevy guys!!!!

So Oldies get in your prune juice and the young have your oats and let the GAMES BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I appreciate all the help, Means alot!!!!! Thanks All, Patrick.

[CRUZTAKER]

With all do respect, and as I am growing older as well, that post was very hard to read. Read it over once before you hit reply next time.
Give us old guys a brake.........get it? brake.......hahahaha
:)

[RF Overlord]

Originally posted by LincMercLover
Guys, I am NOT kidding. It was on Car and Driver or something of the sort when they reviewed the new 2003 Town Car, and THAT was their explination for it... I'm not TRYING to bash old people...

Well, well, well...um stanleyk; you're a lawyer type...I think we got ourselves a case of "age discrimination" here. You can file it against Mr. LML on behalf of me, todd, Wolfe, the Sarge, Willie, Moparzz, yourself, directedby, Dennis, jgc, CRUZ, Stealth, beemer...let's see, at $50,000 each, that would come to...um...er...cipher the nought...damn, where's my adding machine and my bi-focals?

[martyo]

Problem is RF, the truth would be an absolute defense! Besides, what assets does LML have anyway. On second thought, there is that black car he drives....What are his plate numbers again....

[LincMercLover]

Harty har har har... :lol:

[prchrman]

One thing about age..we have been where he is at..he's never been where we are..gosh to be 18 again..I don't even remember how it felt!

[Macon Marauder]

Originally posted by Willie Anglin
One thing about age..we have been where he is at..he's never been where we are..gosh to be 18 again..I don't even remember how it felt!

So true. But if I want to feel 18 again all I gotta do is look at my wife! Yeah Baby!

[WolfeBros]

I would gladly comment but I forgot what we were talking about. :help:
:lol:

[Billatpro]

DAMN KID'S

[jgc61sr2002]

Wolfe did you have a senior moment. Just kidding. John:D

[Marauderman]

When I want to be a kid I get into the black beauty in the garage - and roar out for the "kid " fun from days back all over again--oh yeah!!! :banana:

[Patrick]

Hey Wolfe its BRAKES!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :lol: I am middle of the pack so I will refrain!! I hope to find out whats wrong tomorrow and I if there is a prob that can help I will be the first to let all know if its sumtin we need to look out for! One day and going thru withdrawels. :help: Let the age debate continue!!!!!!!!!:argue:

[Patrick]

BUSTED MASTER BRAKE CYLINDER!!!!!!!!!!! She should be up in running monday!!!!!!! :D :D . I asked if was anything that could give any warnings or sumtin we should look for and he said no! Oh well atleast she's coming home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you all:bows: :banana:

[RCSignals]

did they elaborate? What was the mastercylinder actually doing or not doing?

[Patrick]

When I asked what was wrong he just said busted. But was the guy in charge of the service department. Other than putting gas in, I dont know too much. But when I get her back monday I will get the tech that did the work to give me more info.

[Patrick]

STILL NO RAUDER!!!!!!!!!! :mad: Should be tomorrow. After they put on the new master cylinder, A calbe that controlls the flow was also broke!!! When I go there and get the Car I will corner the tech and find out exactly what went wrong. I am not mad at the dealership. I have been buying my toys there for 15 yrs. Just miss my Rauder!! I will find out exactly what happened and pass it on as soon as I can. Work and a few doc appointments with the folks may have me tied up for a few days. Thanks All!!!!!:bows: :beer: Patrick

[RCSignals]

It'll be interesting to find out exactly what it was.
Well, this is why new cars have warranties lol

[Patrick]

RUADER IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brakes feel better than the first one!!!! I didnt get a chance to talk them I was running between jobs and a doc appoitment. But I will. But here is what they replaced.

1) the cyl @ press co
2) booster asy-br

That was what was on the invoive. If this helps any? And after sitting in the shop for a week and driving in the rain before this. Damm she still had peolpe going, "look a MM!" The dealership knows I am the ONLY one that washers her!!!!!!!!!!! Atleast shes home!!:D . And warranty!!!!!!!!!!!!! Patrick