Kenny Brown #8 is ready to rock.

[Haggis]

Well after finally getting my fuel issue resolved with a SVT Focus fuel pump and a Kenny Bell boost-a-pump, I had her tuned today. With the initial tune done by Jerry W., over a year ago, I was pushing 412rwhp and 376rwtq and with todays tune I am at 450rwhp and 400rwtq. :woohoo:

The rwhp was 470+ and rwtq was 400+, but was backed off for a more safer tune.

I was also have a problem with the stock MAF pegging at 5 volts at 5500rpm, no more I had a MAFXtender installed and you can tell by the A/F ratio that the spike I was having problems with is now gone. The stock MAF can handle at lot more HP then we give it credit for, with the right persuasion.

I also changed my boost pulley size from a 3.48 to a 3.12, from 6.5psi to at least 9 or 10psi of boost (sorry no boost read-out).

The acceleration response is alot quicker now and top end in 3rd gear is 10 to 20 mph higher. :2thumbs:

I would like to thank the guys (Dave, Chris & Matt) at Kauffman's Motorsports (http://www.kauffmanmotorsports.com/home.html) for all their hard work in making the Black Bomber better then ever. :beer: :beer: :beer:

I would also like to gratefully thank SergntMac for all the advice he gave me over the phone, in person and from reading his posts. First drink is on me in Cleveland. Thanks Mac!!

:bagpipe2: :snare: :bagpipe2: :snare: :bagpipe2:

[MM03MOK]

Gordon!! This is awesome! :congrats:!!!

Let's here it for KB #8!!

:bagpipe2::snare::bagpipe2:

[Tallboy]

WOW! Great numbers, Haggis! Must be tough keepin' the rear tires on her, huh?:burnout:

Resistance is fu- oh, wait a minute-that's your line!!:rofl:

[SergntMac]

I would also like to gratefully thank SergntMac for all the advice he gave me over the phone, in person and from reading his posts. First drink is on me in Cleveland. Thanks Mac!
Not a problem, Gordon, I was glad to help out. I didn't do much for you, other than to help you through your own brainstorming on your upgrade, you did the rest.

Like it's been said ^ there, your new problem will be keeping decent tires on the back end. When we get to Barry's back yard, the three of us will talk, tires are everything...

[Bigdogjim]

Glad it went well:up:

Enjoy your new found power:)

[jgc61sr2002]

Congrats, Way to go. :D :up:

[sailsmen]

Congrats on the numbers! :banana2:

I have driven mine for 880 miles with 447 RWHP and 378 RWTQ, it just obliterates the tires, from a dead stop up to a 20 mph roll. :D

On the Interstate it was slightly damp, I stomped it @80mph and it hit the rev limiter before I could let off the gas.

[martyo]

Coolio!! :up:

[NAVCHAP]

Haggis: Nice job! Hope to see you at Woodward. -kjs-

[Joe Walsh]

Gordon...Congrats!!! :banana2:

That's some SERIOUS HP!! :D

Glad to hear that the A/F problem has been solved.

After getting several 'pants clamper' rides in the Black Bomber, including that "test" run on Route 15 up by Kaufmanns, I can't imagine what it runs like now... :burnout:

[Bluerauder]

Well after finally getting my fuel issue resolved with a SVT Focus fuel pump and a Kenny Bell boost-a-pump, I had her tuned today. With the initial tune done by Jerry W., over a year ago, I was pushing 412rwhp and 376rwtq and with todays tune I am at 450rwhp and 400rwtq. :woohoo:
Gordon, that's great news. :up: Glad to see you got all that sorted out. :D Maybe the S.O.B. can take a comparison ride-a-long at Big Bat's and give you the "independent verification" using the buried in the leather meter. :rofl:

[merc]

Wow, I would love to see what those numbers convert to at the track. :beer:

[Bluerauder]

Wow, I would love to see what those numbers convert to at the track. :beer:
Could be some more low-to-mid 12's in Haggis' future !!! :D

[teamrope]

Gordon, you gots to give me a ride at MMville III. :)

Cool numbers. :up:

[bigslim]

Nice numbers Gordon. Hope you have lot's of fun.

[stevengerard]

Wow, great numbers, it takes a stronger man then I to back off on the tune!

[Big Joe P]

It's nice when a plan comes together........
Congratulations.

[89lxbill]

>>I also changed my boost pulley size from a 3.48 to a 3.12, from 6.5psi to at least 9 or 10psi of boost (sorry no boost read-out).

Nice #'s Should be good for 11's on drag radials. I am curious though, You went to a 3.12 pulley and are at 10lbs of boost? At what rpm? We installed a 3.25 on Bill's and have 10lbs @ approx 6500rpm. I am assuming maybe yours comes in earlier. Anyhow his car went a 11.98 with 10-10.5lbs (shifts 6800). So, you should be flying :D

[MarauderMark]

>>I also changed my boost pulley size from a 3.48 to a 3.12, from 6.5psi to at least 9 or 10psi of boost (sorry no boost read-out).

Nice #'s Should be good for 11's on drag radials. I am curious though, You went to a 3.12 pulley and are at 10lbs of boost? At what rpm? We installed a 3.25 on Bill's and have 10lbs @ approx 6500rpm. I am assuming maybe yours comes in earlier. Anyhow his car went a 11.98 with 10-10.5lbs (shifts 6800). So, you should be flying :D

Congratulations Haggis!!! I belive you are where you should be and as writtin above i belive this the time it should be producing at the track :up: welp i quess i have to hand over the reigns of The Fastest Marauder in Maryland . :alone: Well it was fun having it. :D

[Haggis]

...welp i quess i have to hand over the reigns of The Fastest Marauder in Maryland . :alone: Well it was fun having it. :D
Whoa...there, pardner. Not so fast, wait til you get your car back and get new numbers from the track. Then we'll talk business. ;)

[Haggis]

>>I also changed my boost pulley size from a 3.48 to a 3.12, from 6.5psi to at least 9 or 10psi of boost (sorry no boost read-out).

Nice #'s Should be good for 11's on drag radials. I am curious though, You went to a 3.12 pulley and are at 10lbs of boost? At what rpm? We installed a 3.25 on Bill's and have 10lbs @ approx 6500rpm. I am assuming maybe yours comes in earlier. Anyhow his car went a 11.98 with 10-10.5lbs (shifts 6800). So, you should be flying :D
I do not know what the boost is now, it was not recorded. I had 6.5psi of boost with a 3.48 pulley. My tuner told me that with going to a 3.12 pulley I should increase my boost by 3 - 4 psi.

[89lxbill]

I do not know what the boost is now, it was not recorded. I had 6.5psi of boost with a 3.48 pulley. My tuner told me that with going to a 3.12 pulley I should increase my boost by 3 - 4 psi.

I'll bet it's in the 11-12lb range. Should be solidly in the 11's. :) As long as the A/F ratio is in check it should scream.

[merc]

I'll bet it's in the 11-12lb range. Should be solidly in the 11's. :) As long as the A/F ratio is in check it should scream.


If that is true then it's time to look at a roll bar and cage.

[blackf0rk]

Can't wait to get mine! HAVE FUN!!! :)

[Haggis]

I'll bet it's in the 11-12lb range. Should be solidly in the 11's. :) As long as the A/F ratio is in check it should scream.
As you can see bythe dyno sheet the A/F is between 11 & 12 from 4000rpm all the way past 6000rpm. It would be nice to know, hopefully next time I go to a dyno I can have the boost measured. Thanks for your input.

[SergntMac]

Nice #'s Should be good for 11's on drag radials. I am curious though, You went to a 3.12 pulley and are at 10lbs of boost? At what rpm? We installed a 3.25 on Bill's and have 10lbs @ approx 6500rpm. I am assuming maybe yours comes in earlier. Anyhow his car went a 11.98 with 10-10.5lbs (shifts 6800). So, you should be flying
You're kidding, right? A Kenny Brown/Vortech in the 11s, give my best to Bill, please?

I have the 3.12 pulley on my Kenny Brown/Vortech, and I'm getting 15# of boost @ 5000 RPM. Haggis, how are your estimates being taken? Do you have an AutoMeter boost gauge installed? You may have a leak in the line somewhere. I've got a device that reads MAP (manifold absolute pressure) numbers from the OBDII port. It's not exactly "boost" as it comes out of the blower, but it is the air pressure taken from inside the intake, almost the same, at least it matches my AutoMeter gauge and the figures from my last dyno. It's portable, I'll have it at Barry's. Check it out here?

www.scangauge.com

Thanks, Rider...<whipper snapper

[Rider90]

www.sacngauge.com

Don't bring it up folks, mind his age...

*cough (http://scangauge.com)*

[Marauderjack]

BE YE CAREFUL....HAGGIS!! :bows:

Remember when I met you at Dennis' shop.....You had just completed a 360 at the car wash....NOW YOU CAN DO TWO 360's!!! :beer:

BE YE CAREFUL....... :eek:

Marauderjack :D

[Hack Goby]

Gordon,Congrats on your great numbers.I got a ride last year at Berrys(When Chris drove to Whitey`s)and I was impressed.I hope I can make it this year for another. :beer:

[John F. Russo]

Good work Gordon.

I feel left behind!

But I'll catch up one of these months.

[DEFYANT]

450HP is a nice place to be.

Nice goin man!!

[Haggis]

Good work Gordon.

I feel left behind!

But I'll catch up one of these months.
Don't feel left behind John, just think of it as we are doing the leg work for you. Remember a lot of the things I did to my car was because of Mac. Talking to him helped me a great deal.

[Haggis]

450HP is a nice place to be.

Nice goin man!!
Yea and so is the 400rwtq. Need new tires now!! :help:

[maraudernkc]

Very nice numbers! Enjoy the power and don't get any tickets!

[Motorhead350]

I envy you however i have found less expensive kits that have more rear wheel horse power

[Gunslinger]

I envy you however i have found less expensive kits that have more rear wheel horse power
Everyone has different tastes.

Congratulations Gordon!! I know I'm jealous :burnout:

[rocknrod]

I envy you however i have found less expensive kits that have more rear wheel horse power Got a link ?

[Haggis]

I envy you however i have found less expensive kits that have more rear wheel horse power
That maybe true, but they're not a 'Kenny Brown' car. :coolman:

[SergntMac]

I envy you however i have found less expensive kits that have more rear wheel horse power
Kids say the funniest things...

Dominic...The Kenny Brown Marauder S is not a supercharger kit, K? KB doesn't sell kits, it's a whole car makeover.

[MarauderMark]

I envy you however i have found less expensive kits that have more rear wheel horse power but all i can do is dream about it for now


Click your heels together and say 3 times "Theres nothing like Supercharging" , "Theres nothing like Supercharging" , "Theres nothing like Supercharging" Anything happen?

[Motorhead350]

Kids say the funniest things...

Dominic...The Kenny Brown Marauder S is not a supercharger kit, K? KB doesn't sell kits, it's a whole car makeover.
Yea I know that last time I checked it was like a $13,000 upgrade and all it ran was a 13.3. Yeah I know it's a package, but I was talking about performance, not brakes or any of those other things. :shake:

[Motorhead350]

Click your heels together and say 3 times "Theres nothing like Supercharging" , "Theres nothing like Supercharging" , "Theres nothing like Supercharging" Anything happen?
My converse shoes are a little dirtier now thanks a lot. :baaa:

[Motorhead350]

Got a link ?
www.superchargemyride.com 5 grand

[merc]

Kids say the funniest things...

Dominic...The Kenny Brown Marauder S is not a supercharger kit, K? KB doesn't sell kits, it's a whole car makeover.

The heart of the KB system is a custom Vortech centrifugal supercharger that pushes 7.0 psi of boost and is backed by an air-to-water intercooler, upgraded fuel pump and injectors, recalibrated transmission shift points (although the tranny remains a four-speed auto), a thermostatically controlled transmission cooler, a shorter final drive (4.10:1 vs. 3.55:1) and, naturally, a K&N air filter. The suspension features shorter springs which lower the car slightly and urethane sway-bar pivot bushings, but is otherwise stock, and does not provide a marked improvement in handling while losing some compliance, particularly over large bumps. Larger 255/45ZR18 Pirelli tires are also included in the deal, as are Baer/PBR brakes featuring 14-inch front rotors between two-piston calipers.

The results are quite spectacular: the KB Marauder S hits 60 mph in 4.5 seconds, the 1/4 mile in a shade over 13, and is traveling at 130mph when the stock car has just reached 100! So it's fast, then. At a $16,800 premium over the stock car, it's also not that expensive.

I know I will receive some flame on this one, but this KB package is a little dated. There are several new performance packages that exceeds what Mr. Brown is currently offering for a lower cost. I know it’s a package, but they need to upgrade their offering. For those approaching the end of their warranty and excited about performance modifications, you have plenty of choices and more to come. Thanks to some of the innovators on this site and our credit card company’s we roam the earth prowling for new meat.
:pimp:

Sorry Mac , I will always be a kid that loves this car. Everytime I turn the key I am 21 again. :bunny2: See ya in a couple of weeks and I will buy you a beer :beer: ,then we can talk about days gone bye.

[SergntMac]

Sorry Mac...See ya in a couple of weeks and I will buy you a beer, then we can talk about days gone bye.
Sorry Mac? Why apologize to me, Merc? The specifications you noted in your observations are as dated as your opinion of the car, you won't hear me object to an evaluation of the Marauder S from 2002, when there was only one supercharging option for a Marauder, Kenny Brown. Maybe it ran low 13s back then, but I ran 12.4s two weeks ago, same weekend Bill Hall's Marauder S broke into the 11s. Maybe it had only 450+ HP back then, but today, I have 478 RWHP, 434 RWTQ. Yep, lots of things have changed since then, Merc and yes, there are many more options for us today, but, they all still cost money.

That link Dominic posted pointing to the ProCharger kit from F.I.T. appears less expensive in the eyes of a 19 year old, however, to be honest about it, it just another fine ProCharger supercharger kit, minus the water-to-air intercooler option, a savings of approximately 2000 bucks. Reinhart offers the Vortech with, or, without water-to-air options, which is also under 5K and again, almost a 2K savings if you favor the air-to-air technology. If you favor Roots style of supercharging, there remains only one clean choice, the Trilogy kit, with no option on the water-to-air intercooling. That's a bit more cash, but worth every penny.

My point is, that if you are building your Marauder a dime at a time, you can do it that way and think you're saving money, but in the end, you will spend as many dimes as you will sitting down and designing your own custom build, it's your choice on how you want to spend your money, and your time.

With respect to remarks about Kenny Brown needing an update, I have to ask what you mean? He is still willing to build you anything you want, and thanks to his efforts in 2002, a lot of what we jabber about today, are ideas he inspired. Meanwhile, blowers are still blowers, gears are still gears, and tires are still tires. There may be a lot of new stuff we can fit on our Marauders, but that's only aftermarket production catching up with us. All things considered, there hasn't been much new technology at all.

No Merc, you don't owe me any apology, or beer. But, I do think it's sad how Gordon's good news got trashed by another supercharger slap-down.

My apolgies Gordon.

[merc]

SergntMac
With respect to remarks about Kenny Brown needing an update, I have to ask what you mean?

This is what I mean.


As a active member of C.A.M. I see Gordon very often, and I saw him in person last Saturday. I am very proud of his accomplishment and what he has done with his car over the past few years. He, like many other Marauder owners travel a great distance to get quality work. The reason why I posted the 2002 statistics about the Kenny Brown cars was to give the new members a baseline of were we where at that time, from a historical point of view. I remember Gordon said that he wishes Kenny Brown would produce more aftermarket parts for his car. So Chris and Gordon along with CJ produced some very cool stuff for the membership. Facts are facts and figures are figures. Just look at his modifications list. I see alot of non KB hardware. My point is, that was then and this is now. No flame entended Mac, just my point of view.

2003 Marauder 300B "THE BLACK BOMBER"
-Kenny Brown Signature Series #8
-Vortech Supercharger (?)psi/3.12" Pulley
-MMX Drive Shaft
-Pirelli P-Zero Tires
-14" Baer Brakes
-Kenny Brown Dead Pedal
-K&N Air Filter
-SVT Focus fuel Pump
-Kenny Bell Boost-a-Pump
-MAFXtender
-SPI Duel Gauges - Boost/Fuel Pressure, Oil/Volt
-Sylvania Siverstar Headlights
-4.10 Gears
-Ford Racing Rear Diff. Girdle & Stud Kit
-PI 3000 Stall T/C
-Denso Plugs (IT20)
-180* Thermostat
-Zack & Mac Rear Control Arms
-Addco Rear Sway Bar
-18" Magnaflow Mufflers Non Baffled(#14356)
-OEM/Delete Tips (changeable)
-Reinhart's Cobra Exhaust System
-Reinhart's Level II Tranny Kit
-Reinhart's Rear Engine Cooling Kit
-Reinhart's Fuel Filter Kit
-"Marauder" Polished Aluminum Pedals
by Ladyhawke & CJ
-"Marauder" Polished Aluminum Door Sill Covers
by Ladyhawke & CJ
-GodsHead Valve Stem Caps
by Wes Chain
-GodsHead Grill and Rear Deck Badges
by Ron460
-Zaino :burnout:

[Haggis]

This is what I mean.


As a active member of C.A.M. I see Gordon very often, and I saw him in person last Saturday. I am very proud of his accomplishment and what he has done with his car over the past few years. He, like many other Marauder owner travel a great distance to get quality work. The reason why I posted the 2002 statistics about the Kenny Brown cars was to give the new members a baseline of were we where at that time, from a historical point of view. I remember Gordon said that he wishes Kenny Brown would produce more aftermarket part for his car. So Chris and Gordon along with CJ produced some very cool stuff for the membership. Facts are facts and figures are figures. Just look at his moderation list. I see alot of non KB hardware. My point is that was then and this is now. No flame entended Mac, just my point of view.

I still believe that Kenny Brown builds the best complete 'Kit' for your car and I was very happy with the car as it was sent to me by Kenny's shop. But...I got caught up in keeping up with the Jones's and once you start resistance is futile and man does the green stuff burn a hole in your pocket. Once I started chaning one thing, exhaust for sound and a little performance, something else then needed to be upgraded. No fault of Kenny's, but my own and once you start to change pieces on a car you quickly find yourself having to change something else.

Sort of like a woman you like love her the way she is, but once she buys that new dress next comes the new shoes to match and then it's a new purse, a new hairdo and so on. And she continues to mod, not that there was anything wrong, but once she changes one thing it continues until she has a complete new wardrobe.

So what do you do buy the whole wardrobe at once and get it over with or buy a mod at a time until you have the parts on your car that you want. It's your choice.

[Motorhead350]

[QUOTE]
That link Dominic posted pointing to the ProCharger kit from F.I.T. appears less expensive in the eyes of a 19 year old, [Quote]

I don't think age has to do with anything. There was a time when you didn't know what the best deals were. I think you were 19 for a year once too though.

[MarauderMark]

I don't think age has to do with anything. There was a time when you didn't know what the best deals were. I think you were 19 for a year once too though.




And way way back then i remember Vortech being the best as it still is today... :D

[Motorhead350]

I don't think age has to do with anything. There was a time when you didn't know what the best deals were. I think you were 19 for a year once too though.




And way way back then i remember Vortech being the best as it still is today... :D
I wasn't talking to you it was ment at sargentmac, but ok.

[Tallboy]

I don't think age has to do with anything. There was a time when you didn't know what the best deals were. I think you were 19 for a year once too though.




And way way back then i remember Trilogy being the best as it still is today... :DI could not agree more!:D :D

[MarauderMark]

I could not agree more!:D :D


:lol: Thank you.. :D :D

[Motorhead350]

ok lets not let this get on towards opinions and or someone will shut it down.

[Bluerauder]

.2003 Marauder 300B "THE BLACK BOMBER"
-Kenny Brown Signature Series #8
-Vortech Supercharger (?)psi/3.12" Pulley
-MMX Drive Shaft
-Pirelli P-Zero Tires
-14" Baer Brakes
-Kenny Brown Dead Pedal
-K&N Air Filter
-SVT Focus fuel Pump
-Kenny Bell Boost-a-Pump
-MAFXtender
-SPI Duel Gauges - Boost/Fuel Pressure, Oil/Volt
-Sylvania Siverstar Headlights
-4.10 Gears
-Ford Racing Rear Diff. Girdle & Stud Kit
-PI 3000 Stall T/C
-Denso Plugs (IT20)
-180* Thermostat
-Zack & Mac Rear Control Arms
-Addco Rear Sway Bar
-18" Magnaflow Mufflers Non Baffled(#14356)
-OEM/Delete Tips (changeable)
-Reinhart's Cobra Exhaust System
-Reinhart's Level II Tranny Kit
-Reinhart's Rear Engine Cooling Kit
-Reinhart's Fuel Filter Kit
-"Marauder" Polished Aluminum Pedals
by Ladyhawke & CJ
-"Marauder" Polished Aluminum Door Sill Covers
by Ladyhawke & CJ
-GodsHead Valve Stem Caps
by Wes Chain
-GodsHead Grill and Rear Deck Badges
by Ron460
-Zaino :burnout:
Thanks Merc !!! Maybe I can use this as my Christmas Wish List. :rofl:

[Smokie]

Well after finally getting my fuel issue resolved with a SVT Focus fuel pump and a Kenny Bell boost-a-pump, I had her tuned today. With the initial tune done by Jerry W., over a year ago, I was pushing 412rwhp and 376rwtq and with todays tune I am at 450rwhp and 400rwtq. :woohoo:

The rwhp was 470+ and rwtq was 400+, but was backed off for a more safer tune.

I was also have a problem with the stock MAF pegging at 5 volts at 5500rpm, no more I had a MAFXtender installed and you can tell by the A/F ratio that the spike I was having problems with is now gone. The stock MAF can handle at lot more HP then we give it credit for, with the right persuasion.

I also changed my boost pulley size from a 3.48 to a 3.12, from 6.5psi to at least 9 or 10psi of boost (sorry no boost read-out).

The acceleration response is alot quicker now and top end in 3rd gear is 10 to 20 mph higher. :2thumbs:

I would like to thank the guys (Dave, Chris & Matt) at Kauffman's Motorsports (http://www.kauffmanmotorsports.com/home.html) for all their hard work in making the Black Bomber better then ever. :beer: :beer: :beer:

I would also like to gratefully thank SergntMac for all the advice he gave me over the phone, in person and from reading his posts. First drink is on me in Cleveland. Thanks Mac!!

:bagpipe2: :snare: :bagpipe2: :snare: :bagpipe2:
Gordon, excellent. You have a very unique and powerful car. Enjoy the fruits of your hard work.

[Haggis]

I don't think age has to do with anything. There was a time when you didn't know what the best deals were. I think you were 19 for a year once too though.
Back in those days horse power was measured with four legs and a tail. :lol:

[Haggis]

Gordon, excellent. You have a very unique and powerful car. Enjoy the fruits of your hard work.
Thank you Javier. :beer:

[SergntMac]

ok lets not let this get on towards opinions and or someone will shut it down.Opinions...You mean like this?

I envy you however i have found less expensive kits that have more rear wheel horse powerOr, this?

Yea I know that last time I checked it was like a $13,000 upgrade and all it ran was a 13.3. Yeah I know it's a package, but I was talking about performance, not brakes or any of those other things. :shake:Seems to me everything was moving smoothly along until you posted your opinion, and now you want us to cool off? Bull*****. Opinions are welcome, this board is all about opinions, and you're free to post your remarks and comments, as long as you remain respectful. However, once you do post your opinon, you're responsible for any backlash that may come your way. Happens to me everyday, you don't see me calling quits.

I didn't like your opinion, and you know what else? I didn't like where you decided to post it, and I'm telling you that right here. If you want to do a side by side comparasion of bang for the buck, open your own thread on the topic, but please know something about it before you do.

If you do this again (and I'm sure you will), I'll be there expressing myself (in a civil manner) too.